Real McCoy's / Joe McCoy's Jeans

[Geeman]

I've never had a quality issues with any of my RMC items. Second time I've heard of zip issues on a RMC N1 though

[beautiful_FrEaK]

I bought 2 tees while in was in Japan in 2018 and both are not worth the money IMO. I already wrote about it earlier.

One tee has the bottom stitching unraveling after one wear and the other has a strange roping on the neck (although the latter is not as annoying).

[mondo]

I have three tees that must be a good 7 or 8 years old... two black from a twin-pack, and a grey.. they're showing their age a bit after countless washes and trips through the dryer, but have outlasted three Iron Heart and two Fullcount tees that received similar amounts of wear. Well.. none of my tees are ready for rag duty just yet, but you wouldn't think the McCoys were the oldest. More recently I acquired a Ballpark sweat — it's going fine, but unlikely to see enough wear in Australia to really put it through its paces. Probably ten wears and three wash/dry cycles on that one with no issues (yet)

[kicks79]

My beef with the Joe McCoy 2 pack tees was that they shrunk a whole size after a hot wash. Becoming pretty much unwearable. 

[Broark]

I have some RMC loopwheeled tees that were nice for the first few wears, then stretched out exponentially. I’ve never seen a loopwheeled fabric stretch and billow so much even after washing and drying. I don’t wear them anymore because of this. 

[SLAB]

very disheartening to hear these quality issues with RMC. At least you would expect them to have great customer service but alas...

I own quite some RMC pieces as well; mostly very happy with them, my N1 has been going strong for 5 years already (in opposition to my Buzz which started having issues with the zipper after the second year). I do agree the cotton stitching on their denim to be very flimsy as I also had issues with the threads coming loose on my Lot 004

 

[bod]

I had a loopwheel tee a few years ago and like bF said “not worth the money” to put it kindly.

Weren’t the two pack tees made by Velva Sheen at one time? I had the grey ones which shrank one size and a pack of white which did not.

[lee porter]

I had the same not good experience  with loopwheel t-shirts  

[Double 0 Soul]

I don't buy expensive t-shirts, cheap shitty Gildan do me just fine, the only one i do have is the Buco l/s tee in black and white stripe and it's one of my favourite and most worn items of clothing, the cut, the material, its all bang on... i just can't fault it.

Edited February 11, 2020 by Double 0 Soul

[Double 0 Soul]

Here we go, worn with a pair of RMC Millitary Athletic pumps

 

[Geeman]

The QC is certainly all over the place,  I have several ts, none of the loopwheel ones tho, and all are fine after multiple wear and washes. 

I'll still get another ballpark when they eventually restock. 

[Jambon]

I have a good selection of RMC no jeans but lots of loopwheel and other stuff and it’s been mixed for me. 

My loopwheel sweatshirt started to wear out in the elbows on both sides after about 2 years of regular wear and washing. My loopwheel sweatpants lasted about 18months before the fabric just beneath the pockets on both sides started to wear thin. My loopwheel hoody has a weak point around the front pouch stitching and small hole starting to develop and that is only a year old.  

I’ve had better success with the suvin gold non loopwheel sweater and the ball park zip parker I bought first has outlasted most the loopwheel stuff. The athletic loopwheel t-shirts have also worn and washed well keeping their shape but they are relatively new so time will tell.  

My favourite bits are the ball park waffle knit long sleeve henley’s got them in grey, white and black and they are worn every day in the colder months and seem pretty bullet proof. My double diamond chinos I’ve had for years and still going strong, just wish they would make them again as fancy another pair and had no problems with my Field Sports Jacket that has lasted a good few winters so far. 

If we paid the prices they charge in Japan I wouldn’t have a problem but when your buying this in the U.K. with the heavily marked up prices it makes you think twice about waxing the best part of £500  again on a sweatshirt and sweatpants that don’t last anywhere near the life time they claim. 

[Double 0 Soul]

I often look at *vintage sweatshirts and despair when i think about what would have been considered an everyday sweatshirt which has been extensively worn and getting on for 70yrs old but still doesn't have a broken stitch or a hole in sight, yet with McCoys which were/are considered uber-quality.. you're lucky to make it through 2yrs defect free.

For the last couple of years ive had some Mantis cotton sweatshirts in my (actual) workwear rotation, from 'Mantisworld' no less  they retail for around £4.50ea but given to me foc by a screenprinter friend of mine, they've outlasted all of my McCoy's sweatshirts....and still going strong

*example 50's era.

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[Maynard Friedman]

About time they were mentioned Neal, I’ve been praying Mantis would get more recognition on this forum.

[Double 0 Soul]

You've got to hand it to him haven't you...

[Geeman]

It's like he's always there ready to pounce 

[nycsurfer530]

I stick to studio d’artisan sweatshirts- to me, they’re the best and warmest 

[scooby]

You have to go ballpark for their sweats.

 I put a couples years into my crewneck and zip without noticing anything sketchy.

@Double 0 Soul Your Lot 003 look gorgeous!

My pair of Lot 003 stitching began to unravel in two places after their 1st wash, about 1 month of wear in.

I had a pair of Lot 004 that also began to unravel < week in...

I just don't think RMC makes jeans worth buying. 

[pudaspriest]

Just too add another voice to quality concerns, I have a ballpark zip up that I got maybe 4 years ago or so. Worn a ton, possibly my most worn piece of clothing at this point. Has held up very well, no discernible issues as of yet. I also have an N1 and a flannel shirt, both of which have had no problems and I have owned both for 3-4 years and worn them quite a bit. Disappointing to see all these problems considering I had a high opinion of RMC based on personal experience. Stop by the store relatively frequently and this has made me second guess any future purchases. I kind of wish the sweatshirt would wear out a bit more so I could justify looking for another black zip hoodie, I never loved the pockets or the white hood ties but I have no reason to look for another yet. 

 

 

 

[Double 0 Soul]

I wish i would have kept hold of my Whitesville's nysurf

Thanks Scoobs, all my JMC b-parks disintegrated it was only the RMC-Mill which deserved a place in sweatshirt utopia, a shame really because the navy (purple) material ages so damn beautifully, as pointed out above they do seem hit/miss, whereas RMC jeans do seem to be bottom of the food chain fo'sure,

The morale to this tragic tale is 'don't believe anything you read on the internet'....apart from this

Edited February 13, 2020 by Double 0 Soul

[MJF9]

I'm surprised so shoddy but heed the advice above.

Are everyone's M65s holding up?

Now a failure on that would p me off.

[Maynard Friedman]

I have one from Iron Heart that has been going strong for the last 5 years 

I only have one McCoys item - a denim shirt from Joe McCoy, which I’ve had no problem with. I bought it from a shop in Japan for about half the price that RMcC London were charging.

[Double 0 Soul]

23 minutes ago, MJF9 said:

Are everyone's M65s holding up?

Mine is holding up well after 10yrs, i'm going to give it another NikWax tech wash when the weather buck's it's ideas up and i'll post some photo's..

[MJF9]

Glad to hear that... it does seem pretty robust.

I've never washed mine... always wondered... do they shrink?

[Double 0 Soul]

Not in the slightest, ive washed mine twice with zero shrinkage (they wash really well) the NikWax dunt really do owt either but i bought 3 sachets so saved them for the M-65 in the hope that it would eventually stop sucking up rain water like a sponge.

[wmb]

I have washed and dried my M65 -- it shrinks a little and develops a really nice soft patina... I have an XL and is one of the few RM items that I have that run large, including the sleeves, so the shrinkage was a good thing.    

[fre-co]

11 hours ago, Double 0 Soul said:

it was only the RMC-Mill which deserved a place in sweatshirt utopia, a shame really because the navy (purple) material ages so damn beautifully

This!

my navy ballpark is my longest serving sweat. The fade to purple is awesome. I always wanted the olive version but they haven’t made those for ages as far as I know. Not even sure which sweat version came in that colour. 
 

oh yeas the loopwheel tees: I have a few of those, all except the navy one stretched out and lost shape. One white example stretched to an especially strange shape. Only good for cleaning rag duty now. 

[MJF9]

@Double 0 Soul @wmb 

Cheers gents for the info

What temp did you wash? Wondering if cold v warm?

[edmond]

I think all of these are pre 2018?

[kicks79]

What's changed since? aside from the son taking over. Are they using different factories?