Real McCoy's / Joe McCoy's Jeans

[misterjuiceman]

Isn't all of The Real McCoy's denim sanforized? I thought only the Joe McCoy XH denim wasn't. I'm surprised they're shrinking much at all.

[Double 0 Soul]

No, You only need to see Rakuten to see they are sold in Raw or onewash The Lot.004 definitely  sanforized and possibly the 001

[misterjuiceman]

Whoops, thanks---I just realized where I heard it: it was from an email from Super Denim. So much misinformation coming out of them and Inventory Magazine regarding the brand. 

[Sugar Mountain]

^ Also note the misplaced apostrophe in fanatics. Grrr...

[misterjuiceman]

^ Also note the misplaced apostrophe in fanatics. Grrr...

And "an sanforized cloth." I can't believe I listened to those people. I think they erroneously listed almost all of RMC's knits as loop-wheeled, too.

Edited May 20, 2013 by misterjuiceman

[Aries]

Christ there's also 'excellAnt' in the 2nd sentence. Do they not spellcheck?!

[malikadog]

Gordon at BIG said the Real Mccoys sweats aren't loopwheeled this season. I emailed Superdenim, but they didnt respond. Can anyone confirm the status of this season's sweats?

[Jared_Lee]

If it's not listed as loopwheeled on the BiG web site, it's not loopwheeled. That's what I've been told.

[k4727]

Yea, i would go with what BiG says. Big gets stock directly from japan while Inventory (and i think superdenim) gets it through a european distributor. My guess is thats part of what causes a lot of the absurd pricing and misinformation.

[Double 0 Soul]

I agree BIG know there stuff. Regarding the European distribution i have had special orders in the past from SD and was told "DHL provide them with a 2 day service from jp with no days in customs"
 

Inventory appear to have retail addresses in NY and Vancouver where they stock RMC,  They also appear to have concessions/in collaboration with Viberg, Woolrich, Ebbets, Yuketen, Beams ect, in London and Tokyo so i dont know why they would purchase RMC from a distributor in Europe to stock stores in Canada/U.S if they have a business address in Tokyo, But they do tend to make the same mistakes so what you are saying does make a lot of sense.

Edited May 21, 2013 by Double 0 Soul

[k4727]

I was told at the nyc shop that inventory had a relationship with theeuropean distributor, which is why they bought through them

Edited May 22, 2013 by a.khan12390

[indigoeagle]

Trying to figure out the differences here.

 

What is the difference between the 905S and the 905XH? (edit) and then there's also a 905 standard model. (edit: just read, that the standard one is not produced anymore. It used the same fabric as  LotS613XH; also it only had four front buttons vs. five for the 905S).

 

The 905S on the RMC site is also specified as 14.75oz, so it can't be that the XH means heavier denim, because it's also 14.75oz unless I'm mistaken. Or is S sanforized 14.75 and XH 14.75 raw, i.e. around 16 after a soak?

 

How would the silhouette of the 905 be different from that of the Lot 003?

 

Which pair would be between the 991 and the 003? tia

Edited May 24, 2013 by indigoeagle

[Capsicum Fried Meat]

905S? never heard of this model, may be the new product currently issued.

 

Anyway, talking about the joe mccoy when they still got red tabs

 

905/ 905XH / S905XH

 

905 approx 14.25oz

905XH approx 14.5~14.75oz

S905XH approx 14.75~15oz

 

there are other differences between above mentioned three models including: fabric, dyeing, threads etc,.

 

905  repro of 1947~early 50's model

Lot 003 repro of WWII type

[Double 0 Soul]

Lot.905S

 

Have a scoot back to page 18 of the thread i posted all of the RMC 2013 denim range there for referance.

[indigoeagle]

Thanks, guys.

But I was aware of that information already as I had read the last fifteen pages or so of this thread. Sorry, if I overlooked something. And thanks for the info there. Already very helpful.

But I didn't find any answers to these exact questions.

I know the 905XH is unsanforized. Not sure about the 905S. That might make the difference.

Here's the 905S:

 

https://www.realmccoys.co.jp/catalog/products/detail.php?product_id=3162&pg=

It's just described as Standard model.

 

Not sure about the fit difference between 905 and 003. They sound very similar, 905 a 40s fit (Vintage Denim) and 003 being the WWII model. The main difference might be that the 003 has more 'special' little details like the crooked sewing, etc..

 

TopJimmy has some good fitpics. Both models are 30 and one wash.

Lot 003

 

905S, here specified as 14oz

 

The 905 appears to be a bit slimmer than the 003. 

The waist measurements are much smaller. There is a weird jump in the measurements though between the 34 and 36.

Edited May 24, 2013 by indigoeagle

[indigoeagle]

For comparison, since it's the same model wearing the jeans.

904S, here in W31, also one wash. It's described as slim straight.

 

 

Again the waist measurements are very small here, e.g. W33 and 34- 74cm.

 

906 S, also one wash, also W31 here.

The S seems to refer to Original Vintage Denim.

This looks quite slim. Reminds me of the Momotaro 0701 fit.

 

Here the waist measurements are bigger, e.g. W32- 82cm, W33- 84cm.

 

Unfortunately they don't offer the 991 XH (or it's sold out). It would have been nice to get a comparison pic. On coleslaw's fitpics they don't look as tight as they do here:

[Double 0 Soul]

Joe McCoy Border stripe cut & sewn.

 

Made in Japan. Bought from 3&8 and came with some free Johnson Moto Stickers.
Burgundy x Cream Zimbabwean Cotton Navy x White  Slavic Cotton.

Edited May 25, 2013 by Double 0 Soul

[Double 0 Soul]

A good opportunity to compare the difference between a high grade Slavic cotton with the "king of cottons" Hand harvested Zimbabwean Organic i know there is evidence to substantiate Zim cottons longer cotton fibers as a marketing myth but these are both loomed on the same vintage looms and the quality of the Organic Zim cotton is mind blowingly good.

The outside is soft cotton slub.

 

The inside is very irregular.

 

The Zimbabwean cotton comes with a 20% higher price tag.

Edited May 25, 2013 by Double 0 Soul

[Flash]

That burgundy tee is beautiful mate

How are the 003's looking ?

[bod]

Nice, though for me they're a bit long, I've had my eye on the 'schoolboy stripe' MC13024 tees

[Double 0 Soul]

Dont worry freezie im on it, They shrink between 3-5% on first wash removing a minimum of 15mm from the length then they are going to the tailors to have 2 of the stripes removed from the bottom, I was aware of it when i purchased them just wanted to wash the shrinkage out before the hem job. I will post some fit pics after i get the work done.

 

Thanks Flash!

[Foxy2]

Lot.003

[misterjuiceman]

Anyone here familiar with the sizing of the new Double Diamond waffle henleys from RMC?

[k4727]

Recent pick ups.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 7, 2013 by a.khan12390

[SLAB]

love the double diamond wabash shirt

[xchen]

Started wearing my pair after initial soak/wash...

 

 

I'm not really a perfectionist or anything but good god those back pockets are all kinds of sloppy

[beautiful_FrEaK]

but that's done by intention

[xchen]

yeah i see that now on BiG - still not feeling it though

[aho]

Hows the stretch on Real McCoy's denim in general? Tried on a pair of 991's (non XH) a while back and they were the best fitting jeans I can think of for my frame in a long time, provided I can get the waist close to raw measurements?

[anklspr]

yeah i see that now on BiG - still not feeling it though

 

When I first saw them I wasn't into it at all, but it's grown on me and now I kind of want a pair.