Denim Blunders, Reflections and General Nonsense.

[PartTimeBarista]

I was 7 at the millennium, so I'm sure all my clothes were from Walmart and/or hand-me-downs. By the end of the 2000s, however, I had quite an impressive collection of mall-brand t-shirts in every color of the rainbow and emblazoned with giant logos, and Pumas in almost as many colors.

[PrettyBoyTony]

I was 14 in 2000 and I was all about the widest jeans possible. I think the photo is roughly then. Seeing kids these day with the same jeans feels truly bizarre.

2004-5 though I was all about basketball jerseys, timberland boots but jeans were definitely more a regular fit though probably a touch wide compared to today. I wore a raw GAP type 3 denim jacket for a lot of my university days and still have it. Has some great fades.

For some reason mid 2000s I wore very tight tshirts and chunky scarfs. No idea why I thought I looked cool. Definitely did not. Trainers were always converse or Jordan 1s. 

Outside of the GAP jacket I wore a green addidas tracksuit jacket a lot.

 

 

[Double 0 Soul]

Ha! brilliant.. The best photo i've seen posted on the forum for ages 👏

13 minutes ago, PrettyBoyTony said:

For some reason mid 2000s I wore very tight tshirts and chunky scarfs. No idea why I thought I looked cool. Definitely did not. Trainers were always converse or Jordan 1s. 

I remember seeing the t-shirt and scarf look, it made it over here too, do you remember where it came from, was it worn by any bands you was listening to?.. i was always baffled by it.

[Maynard Friedman]

That t-shirt and scarf look was popular with boy bands! 

Those jeans look like Joe Bloggs.

[Double 0 Soul]

Joe Bloggs.. is @PrettyBoyTony from the UK?

[PrettyBoyTony]

Ha yep UK. I'm really not too sure what make they were honestly but it was the one brand that I could get in Scotland that was wide enough. I would dye them black for school as they only had the light blue stonewash available.

I was thinking for the scarf tshirt combo back in 2006 it was a indie band thing. Great times. Though not great fashion times...

[Double 0 Soul]

I remember it being a scarf doubled over then worn around the neck with the dangly ends threaded through the loop.. so quite a chunky arrangement under the chin.. then a tee for balance.. i suppose??

[Maynard Friedman]

I used to see people wearing that combo with a loose fitting beanie, pushed back, flopping behind their head and would think if it’s so cold that you need a hat and big scarf, why are you only wearing a t-shirt?!

[PrettyBoyTony]

Haha the loose fitting beanie hat came a few years later for me.

I remember once getting into a 'fight' with this guy in a nightclub and for most of it I was trying to get my scarf off for fear of it being used to choke me! So yeah wore that daft combo in the club too. Probably deserved a punch for it

[Maynard Friedman]

That hat/scarf/t-shirt look lingered on for a few years. I’d see paunchy men with beards wearing that get-up with a thin, semi-translucent white t-shirt (often with a gratuitously deep v-neck) hanging down to mid-thigh, like a minidress and their lower halves stuffed into skintight jeans (in a completely unbalanced manner). They’d usually be in a cafe with a MacBook, nursing a soy latte.

[MJF9]

^ interesting that you studied that look so intently Maynard... anything you want to confess?  We won't tell anyone

[Double 0 Soul]

Im blending 2 different conversations here

From the year 2000.. Sarah's, Silas & Maria stylised deck jacket, it's grosgrain, alpaca linned (alpaca / acrylic blend) and made in the Eu..

It's even pleated for a 506 x N1 kinda lean..

It was bought down the lanes in Brighton for £280 in the year 2000

Edited June 5 by Double 0 Soul

[smoothsailor]

Cuffed 501 and black chucks, t shirt, hoody, blue ma1 or some type of varsity jacket.

i was mostly working, in bars, clubs, restaurants, kitchens, and tattoo shop.

so I wanted to look a certain way and it wouldn’t matter if things got dirty.

mix of hip hop, rockabilly. Always like the rockabilly look, but it bores fast, to stuck with unwritten tools it seems to me.

i notice nowadays the kids are free again to wear whatever, a few yrs back it was way more uptight 

[Double 0 Soul]

Looking smart and youthfull (before parenthood) in the mid 2000s wearing an Oliver Spencer shirt (and looking at the texture, these are either) SC Okinawa's or Hawaii's

 

Edited June 5 by Double 0 Soul

[indigoeagle]

Hm, let me remember.
In the 90s it was at a time similar to now:
Lee/Levis corduroy type 3s
LVC jeans bought in Japan
501s, Lee jeans
chinos

Also Stüssy t-shirts, RL oxford and rugby shirts, Doc Martens chelsea boots, Komodo

in the 2000s it was at one time lots of stuff from Energie,
some Diesel shirts and jeans, Bikkemberg boots, Puma trainers,
at a time also G Star and Camper boots, Massimo Osti jacket
I think one jeans brand called JetSet

[Hopethisoneisnttaken]

00-10 were my skateboarding years. Geoff Rowley was my idol. I had a pair some tight Levi’s and a blue Nike hoody and that’s about all I wore from I think 02 to 05 when they turned into dust. Also had some type of fake baggy jeans with a skater boy embroidered logo. I think they were called X Boy. Oh and canvas belt the length of an anaconda snake. Shoes were mostly Globe /Circa/ DC whichever skating brand was on sale at the skate shops at the time as they would become unwearable within 6-7 months. 
 

I miss non of that clothing if I’m being honest haha. 

Edited June 7 by Hopethisoneisnttaken

[Double 0 Soul]

You're here now.. that's the main thing!

It's the transition i find interesting.. at some point we've all decided to start buying very nice pants for some reason?. 

I'm a little older so my skateboarding years were the mid 90s.. a little film here put out by our local skate store (no sound first 5mins)

**It's lovely to see our city center back in the 90s^ .. Aw Sheffield ❤️

Around this period, i was dressed the same as these^ guys in baggy pants and hoody which nowadays is just another generic youth look but in the mid 90s, it was mainly skaters who dressed this way.. Walking through the city there would be a congregation of goths like a sea of black on the city hall steps.. the grunge kids in their misshapen knitwear and converse, the Indy / Leadmill kids, the club kids flyer-ing outside Warp or the normies shopping on the highstreet.. it wasn't difficult to see how folks aligned themselves.

**nowadays the city center is a fucking disgrace, all the shops have closed down, the ones that are left open are swarming with security,  it's mainly vape shops, phone shops, charity shops and Greggs..  nobody seems to be employed, begging, spice-zombies, god-grifters.. the end is nigh types, "repent your sins!" .. Deliveroo riders carelessly nailing it through pedestrianised areas while folks run for their lives.. half of all folks are not speaking English, there is no integration, piss-heads fighting or puking, waiting for Wetherspoons to open.. folks with clipboards accosting you for money, toothless meth-heads selling stolen dogs.. 1000s of homeless people, sleeping bags and cardboard stuffed into every doorway, the backstreets stink of shit and urine, i used to laugh at the level of deprivation when i would go to Goole or Castleford.. "what the fuck has happened here" but now Sheff is far worse.. even the Cash Converters closed down.. that's how deprived the city is. 

Sheffield city council are spending millions redeveloping it which seems pointless when nobody has any money to spend.. i'd rather see a response similar to The Return Of The Living Dead where they just fucking nuke it!

Edited June 7 by Double 0 Soul

[Maynard Friedman]

I first visited Sheffield in the late 80s and that’s how it seemed to me back then! 😆

[Double 0 Soul]

Oi .. you cheeky cnut! 

[Double 0 Soul]

Speaking of god grifters.. i watched Marjoe yesterday, this is a great docu, it was lost for years..

The story of Marjoe Gortner, born into an evangelical family and preaching prosperity gospel since the age of 4.. obviously trained by his parents, he always knew he was a false prophet (arn't they all) but felt he was offering therapy.. coming to a crossroads in his life after hooking up with the California counter culture.. the film is a little exploitative but it was the 70s

 

Same old story.. even after folks find out he's fake.. most still believe he's the real deal (it's the devil playing tricks on us) like the cult of modern politics.. even when folks are proven to be corrupt.. few will leave, most will stay faithful to the cause. 

[Geeman]

I went to buy 2 shirts from J Press online yesterday,  £72 quid each. After taxes,fees,import and shipping.....over £300! WTF!

[Double 0 Soul]

What!? .. how? what's the breakdown of those costs? 

Might be cheaper to buy each shirt individually and kept the cost of your parcel under £135 

[UkeNo]

If the shirts are 100% cotton, and imported from Japan then Chat GPT has estimated the cost incl VAT, Duties and handling fees (excluding shipping) to be £206.60-£210.70

Edited June 9 by UkeNo

[Geeman]

No UK orders shipped below £130.. 

Even want to charge me $5 to check out securely....

[MJF9]

^ mate, you could treat yourself and go Fedex International First 🫣

[Maynard Friedman]

Maybe just don’t buy them and wear the 200 shirts you probably already own instead? 😆

[yung_flynn]

6 hours ago, Geeman said:

No UK orders shipped below £130.. 

Even want to charge me $5 to check out securely....

You might be better off checking John Simons at that point or even Drake's at the UK pricing. My understanding is that all of them source fabrics from the same mills so there is a lot of overlap, especially between the Press and Drakes offerings this year. Unfortunately, I don't think that they have anything that quite matches that olive/red color

[Geeman]

27 minutes ago, yung_flynn said:

You might be better off checking John Simons at that point or even Drake's at the UK pricing. My understanding is that all of them source fabrics from the same mills so there is a lot of overlap, especially between the Press and Drakes offerings this year. Unfortunately, I don't think that they have anything that quite matches that olive/red color

JS long sleeve Madras don't fit me well in the arms unfortunately and he doesn't have much in the ss popover (so far) this year.

[Duke Mantee]

The whole £135 minimum spend thing set by our European colleagues is a complete bag of shite. Some impose this made up limit, some don’t … seems to be based solely on how the seller wants to deal with paperwork for customs etc

[Double 0 Soul]

What i tend to find with goods hitting the UK border.. stuffs coming in from JP for example..

Zenmarket ..auto-add tax to all purchases, so for goods above the £135 limit, i pay the fees before it's shipped because i'm only going to incur those fees at the UK border +£12 admin charges from Parcelforce.. it's unavoidable so i pay the charges to save £12.

The dispatch note states Vat Paid with a VAT number provided so it sails through customs.

 

Here is a second example where i deferred the VAT (no VAT number) but because it hit the UK border with a value of £127gbp (item +shipping) which is under the £135 limit and it’s dispatched from a business no charges are applied.

 

 

The murkiness (at least in my experience) is when items are shipped from private individuals instead of a registered business, the £135 rule goes out the window and more often than not VAT will be applied, even if the value is £50?

I seem to remember @Duke Mantee .. Boris said "we can just ring the prime minister and he would throw the customs forms in the bin" have you tried doing that?

Edited June 10 by Double 0 Soul