Denim Blunders, Reflections and General Nonsense.

[Double 0 Soul]

Another thing to consider with Zoomer fashion.. Gen X are all tarnished by a rich tapestry of prejudice and/or regret dating back 40+ yrs.. Gen Zs fashion awareness only spans a few short years..

For instance.. if i was to ask my 16yr old to sum up Geeman's outfit on the previous page he'd probably say "old money chic / tory boomer aesthetic" because Gen Z are yet to discover Barbour.. the only time he will have seen Barbour being worn will be folks like Rishi Sunak, Clarkson, Farage or minor Royals on the news.

Barbour to me will always say "Great Yorkshire Show" because when i was a kid, the agricultural shows were awash with Barbour, Tattersall shirts, moleskins or cords with brogues or wellies.. the only other folks i saw wearing Barbour in the 80s were the Sloanies.. it's hard to shake these perceptions.. of which Gen Z have very few.. tight jeans, baggy jeans, tapered.. it's all going to be new / first time around for them.. no offense Gee, i think you look fucking great!

When we went suit shopping he said.. "what about this green tweed one, old money vibes" nah.. you'll look like John Craven "who" ?

"what about this chocolate brown one" nah, you'll look like The Two Ronnies..  again.. "who"? 

I mean.. both suits looked dope, all im doing is letting my prejudice push me down a very narrow path which is why old folks always end up wearing the same shit. 

Another thing to consider is.. by their very nature, middle aged people are not very cool.. i was in End with my kid, i pulled a pair of Edwins from the sale rail and said "what about these".. he said "nope, they look like something you would wear...  offended?.. not in the slightest?! 

This is what's happening with the baggy jeans.. they're cool when young folks 'discover' them.. but now, 3yrs later, older folks are starting to rediscover the style and they will cease to be cool.. no kid want to dress like their parents.. i certainly didn't when i was a teenager... especially not a tragic one having a midlife crisis

One thing that annoys me with my teenager, he knows exactly how he wants to look but he's not prepared to put the time in trawling the internet for it.. he wants me to do it.. then says "aw! .. c'mon dad, you're the clothing neek not me".. i'm a sucker for a back handed compliment so i do it (and secretly enjoy it) Shhh don't tell him!

I've probably offended half the forum here^^^ but in my defense, it is the nonsense thread!

[ATWM]

^ love this all.

Can't blame the young ones for much if only because of the world being passed down  to them. Trying to make sense of it all with the added complexity of the shithole social media society they have to contend with while their brain is still developing is basically enough for me to think that no one under 18 can do wrong and really be entirely responsible for it. The kids need a break, and I remain thinking they look better now than they did when I was one.

Funny thing about that above - 

My kid is only 5.

I have a few unofficial rules about clothing. One of which is that polo shirts are a fucking abomination. No exception. I hate them. If you're gonna wear a collar put on a proper oxford at the very least. At least this is what I say to myself. 

At any rate, he only wants to wear polos, ever. He rocks them with glee and looks great, and we have gotten him an array of colors now from the local consignment. I don't ever recall having told him how I feel about them (I hope I haven't), but I'm sure somewhere deep down he's sensed it and his starting his rebellion already, and more power to him. 

[Double 0 Soul]

My Mrs used to be the same with joggers..

When my kid was a little younger than yours.. on Wednesdays, i would drop Sarah off at work then drop the kid off at nursery en route to my work.. Sarah used to buy most of his clothing in those days.. (i bought his footwear) he always looked great in mini-Kickers, H&M jeans, little duffle coat from M&S.. ect

To keep our nursery fees in the realms of reality, my Dad would pick him up at Wednesday lunchtime and take him up to my folks house.. i would leave work early drive up to the village where they live to pick him up.. he would have been running around their garden all day.. in the paddling pool, on the trampoline, in the sand pit, walking up to Molly Farm for ice creams.. by the time i picked him up he was often covered in crap and wearing Primark joggers and a t-shirt which my mum had bought to keep his clothes clean.. My mum would give him his tea then i would go pick Sarah up from work and drive all the way to the village in Derbyshire where we lived.. hffff exhausting!

When she got in the car she gave him a hug and a kiss got in the front seat and said to me "what are those hideous things on his legs?" Primark joggers  "where are his clothes" they're in a bag in the boot...

On the way home we had to call at the Co-Op for some creme fraiche, we were all tired, Sarah just wanted to get in/out asap.. she was cooking tea, i was going to bath the kid and put him to bed.. she tried to sneak out of the car but he woke up and said "mum can i come into the Co-Op with you?" she made the fatal mistake of saying "Not in those jog bottoms" to which he said "fine, i'll take them off" .. unfastened the car seat and started to remove the Primark joggers.. they had a bit of a discussion.. i thought don't look at me for support, you've got yourself into this mess, you should have just said No.  .. next thing she's in the back of the car wrestling a 4yr old out of joggers and into jeans just to go into the village Co-Op.. the home of fashion!  

Edited January 8 by Double 0 Soul

[Geeman]

6 hours ago, Double 0 Soul said:

Another thing to consider with Zoomer fashion.. Gen X are all tarnished by a rich tapestry of prejudice and/or regret dating back 40+ yrs.. Gen Zs fashion awareness only spans a few short years..

For instance.. if i was to ask my 16yr old to sum up Geeman's outfit on the previous page he'd probably say "old money chic / tory boomer aesthetic" because Gen Z are yet to discover Barbour.. the only time he will have seen Barbour being worn will be folks like Rishi Sunak, Clarkson, Farage or minor Royals on the news.

Barbour to me will always say "Great Yorkshire Show" because when i was a kid, the agricultural shows were awash with Barbour, Tattersall shirts, moleskins or cords with brogues or wellies.. the only other folks i saw wearing Barbour in the 80s were the Sloanies.. it's hard to shake these perceptions.. of which Gen Z have very few.. tight jeans, baggy jeans, tapered.. it's all going to be new / first time around for them.. no offense Gee, i think you look fucking great!

When we went suit shopping he said.. "what about this green tweed one, old money vibes" nah.. you'll look like John Craven "who" ?

"what about this chocolate brown one" nah, you'll look like The Two Ronnies..  again.. "who"? 

I mean.. both suits looked dope, all im doing is letting my prejudice push me down a very narrow path which is why old folks always end up wearing the same shit. 

Another thing to consider is.. by their very nature, middle aged people are not very cool.. i was in End with my kid, i pulled a pair of Edwins from the sale rail and said "what about these".. he said "nope, they look like something you would wear...  offended?.. not in the slightest?! 

This is what's happening with the baggy jeans.. they're cool when young folks 'discover' them.. but now, 3yrs later, older folks are starting to rediscover the style and they will cease to be cool.. no kid want to dress like their parents.. i certainly didn't when i was a teenager... especially not a tragic one having a midlife crisis

One thing that annoys me with my teenager, he knows exactly how he wants to look but he's not prepared to put the time in trawling the internet for it.. he wants me to do it.. then says "aw! .. c'mon dad, you're the clothing neek not me".. i'm a sucker for a back handed compliment so i do it (and secretly enjoy it) Shhh don't tell him!

I've probably offended half the forum here^^^ but in my defense, it is the nonsense thread!

Mission accomplished, Tory boomer aesthetic was exactly the look I was going for.

(It at least White Label 😉)

[Double 0 Soul]

It's the best i've seen a Barbour look for.. well probably forever!

[Broark]

Before you know it 00 will be posting snaps like this from his workshop. 

[Double 0 Soul]

I’ve become everything I’ve always hated 

[Maynard Friedman]

It’ll be a South Yorkshire version, adorned with a flat cap, whippet, ferret, racing pigeon, pint of mild, lump of coal, steel bar, etc

[Broark]

5 minutes ago, Maynard Friedman said:

It’ll be a South Yorkshire version, adorned with a flat cap, whippet, ferret, racing pigeon, pint of mild, lump of coal, steel bar, etc

#TrainConductorCore #aesthetic 

[ATWM]

26 minutes ago, Broark said:

Before you know it 00 will be posting snaps like this from his workshop. 

Perhaps predictably, I am triggered, and now running outside to vomit.

And then I will shake myself off and clutch all of my consumables all alone in my room because that’s where life is lived and that’s what gives me warmth. 

[tg76]

Just picked my first cucumbers from my new garden, remembered when a hair dresser asked me if I grew my own food, ‘cause I seemed the type, gestured at my jeans 

don’t know if it was a compliment or not

[Double 0 Soul]

Good denim-folk of sufu.. if you're anything like me you'll buy a ton of shit on the interwebz.

Another forum i contribute to.. one of the members had 1000s of pounds stolen from his PP account, they did it via the automatic payments method.. ie unscrupulous sellers can set up pre approved auto-payments giving them access to take future payments.. it's a bit more convoluted than i'm alluding to but for the sake of this exercise.. i don't need to type out a detailed explanation.. just, for the sake of your financial health..

Open PP, go to Settings >Payments > Automatic Payments.. i've just found a list as long as your arm of 'Active' automatic payments dating back to 2011.. from fancy japanese tea companies to Sardinian car parking.. the only payments from the list which i would consider 'Active' would be Royal Mail and eBay so i've made the rest of the payees 'Inactive' .. i didn't even know this list of active payments existed?

[Double 0 Soul]

.. in my case, it doesn't seem like anything untoward has happened.. for instance, i bought some fancy japanese tea leaves once from this company and they haven't attempted to take payments since.. but why they have a still active 'automatic payment' set up for a one off purchase i made in 2018 .. i do not know?

Edited January 12 by Double 0 Soul

[smoothsailor]

PP , PayPal? Thanks

[Double 0 Soul]

Sorry, yes PayPal 

Let me know how many you find? 

[smoothsailor]

Sufu and Airbnb

[CSL]

Thanks Double 0. Good tip.

I just removed a bunch. None were untoward or recurring payments but why the hell should they automatically keep the line open just because I used paypal for a one time purchase?

[redragon]

@tg76 Might be good idea to look at Sassafras gear just to lean into the whole looks 😉

[tg76]

mmmm could carry a lot of cucumbers in those pockets

https://totemshop.com/en-nz/collections/sassafras/products/sassafras-digs-crew-pants-4-5-olive

[Double 0 Soul]

My hatred of the phone fade is no secret but it's also something i've not had to worry about having never had a big-ass smart phone.. alas, last year i finally gave up all hope of a tech-free life and accidentally bought an i-phone.. i might be preaching to the converted, but they're great, you want to get yourself one 

..anywho, over Christmas i noticed a slight line in the top block of my SC47s.. assuming this was a toothpaste drip, i carefully blotted it with a damp tea towel and gave it no further thought till i left the house with my phone in my pocket and realised the line was perfectly aligned to my phone.. Ahh! fuck, i can't get a phone fade @julian-wolf will never let me live it down  .. i put the phone in the chest pocket of my 506xx but not having a pocket flap.. when i put my shoes on, it came crashing down onto the wood effect lino floor  huff! 

I have a 20yr old Filson field bag but it's a bit ridiculous only putting phone and keys inside.. what i really need to stop phone fades is a small phone sized pouch with a zip that i can clip around my waist / what one would call a bumbag or fanny pack depending on regional lingos.. it makes perfect sense, even Mr Motivator needed somewhere to keep his MDMA.

I wouldn't wear it around my waist like a clueless American tourist.. i'd wear it across the body like i'm involved with a cool county-lines drug gang.. one of my friends who i ride MTB with has an oversized one which he calls an 'adventure pack'..  "Dude, that's a bumbag" .. Nah.. it's bigger than a bumbag "Ok so it's a big bumbag?" 

I'd probably avoid the quilted gold lame but if i can pull this bumbag steeze off.. do you think it would catch on around the denim communities?

 

 

[Broark]

Clearly what you really are after is one of these. 

[Dr_Heech]

@Double 0 Soul you could buy a man bag similar to Joey's (from Friends) - I'll let someone with more tech know how to put in a Gif.

[Broark]

2 minutes ago, Dr_Heech said:

@Double 0 Soul you could buy a man bag similar to Joey's (from Friends) - I'll let someone with more tech know how to put in a Gif.

[PBTony]

The secret is to be so addicted to your phone it's never out your hand.

All my jeans have a back pocket phone fade even though I always take my phone out when sitting down. Really dislike it. I've started putting my phone in my front pocket for my newer jeans but I'm sure I'll hate that too. And I also find it uncomfortable when say bending down to tie shoes. It will probably end up in my back pocket again

Edited January 14 by PrettyBoyTony

[ATWM]

51 minutes ago, Double 0 Soul said:

but they're great, you want to get yourself one

I’m actually surprised to see this - can’t tell if it’s sarcasm, as usual. 

Before long you’re going to feel like you can’t get by without one, even if you don’t want to use it. Then you’ll realized how insidious the whole system has become. If you start to feel at all like you have less time in your life and you can’t sort why, it’s because it is vacuuming it up with a quiet force you’ve never experienced. 

Personally, I fantasize about chucking my iPhone in the ditch every morning. (It doesn’t even let you delete a browser).

The phone fade is there to stay for you my friend, a tattooed reminder of the fact that you eventually caved. 😃 

Best you can do is leave your phone out of your pocket, and leave it in a different room, too. Or on the bike, in a saddle bag or jacket pocket. 

Edited January 14 by ATWM

[ATWM]

42 minutes ago, Broark said:

Clearly what you really are after is one of these. 

Pure business right there. No messing around. Official. 

[Double 0 Soul]

14 minutes ago, ATWM said:

I’m actually surprised to see this - can’t tell if it’s sarcasm, as usual. 

Before long you’re going to feel like you can’t get by without one, even if you don’t want to use it. Then you’ll realized how insidious the whole system has become. If you start to feel at all like you have less time in your life and you can’t sort why, it’s because it is vacuuming it up with a quiet force you’ve never experienced. 

Personally, I fantasize about chucking my iPhone in the ditch every morning. (It doesn’t even let you delete a browser).

The phone fade is there to stay for you my friend, a tattooed reminder of the fact that you eventually caved. 😃 

Best you can do is leave your phone out of your pocket, and leave it in a different room, too. Or on the bike, in a saddle bag or jacket pocket. 

Bit o’both.. 

I don’t like speaking on the phone so nobody ever calls me, my mum still does, maybe 2 or 3 times /yr.

I leave my phone on my bench at work because even if it does ring, I can’t hear it if the machines are working.. I have the laptop perma-open wherever I’m working with a playlist or podcast playing so if folks want me they just email me.

When I’m out on the bike, I carry a lightweight backpack with phone pouch on the shoulder strap (if only for the camera) just because I carry water in the pack rather than put it in bottle cages.. Peak District rides are bisected with rocks where I have to shoulder the bike and climb up.. thankfully the bike is as light as fuck.. last thing I need is 2kg of water strapped to the frame.

.. but yes, over Christmas I was finding it hard to leave the house without the phone even tho nobody will call / fade formation 

[julian-wolf]

@Double 0 Soul seems like you’re exactly the target audience for Apple’s very latest

https://us.isseymiyake.com/blogs/news/18228?

[Double 0 Soul]

I had to watch the video to figure out exactly what it was..

Would I be banished from the forum if I said ‘I quite like them’ 

The parallel universe 00 probably already has one..

[ATWM]

This is how you hawk unsold socks at a premium 😃