Unknown Non-Japanese Brands

[Double 0 Soul]

One from @Broark back yard..

https://www.cianofarmer.com/collections/all/products/16oz-japanese-indigo-secret-denim-0505-selvage-5-pocket-version

The 'miner fit' is pretty slim.. the 'regular fit' is tiiiight and the 'slim fit' is --------------------- (only audible by dogs) 

[Broark]

I know back in the day Ciano Farmer used to be pretty popular on reddit, no idea how true that is today.
Never been too interested in his stuff personally (finish gives off N&F vibes), but the custom stamped Texas rivets are neat.
Denton is a cool city in the DFW area that I visited once a couple years ago, college town that leans a little more into local business pride / music scene compared to the rest of the metro that it's in. Pretty good bars and restaurants and an interesting downtown area with lots of independent businesses.
Honestly I can't stand the DFW metro and it's probably my least favorite large city in Texas, but Denton is an exception.

[CSL]

When I first came to the US (1988) I thought Fort Worth was great. This was based on a short visit mind you, but the leather belts you could buy in the Cowtown(?) district were fabulous. I wore the one I bought until it wore out (think I still have the remains in a drawer...) I should have bought more because when I revisited a few years later (I was in a band from FW in the mid 90s) everything I saw was cheap, mass produced, low quality. 

[Hopethisoneisnttaken]

On 1/16/2026 at 1:59 PM, Double 0 Soul said:

One from @Broark back yard..

https://www.cianofarmer.com/collections/all/products/16oz-japanese-indigo-secret-denim-0505-selvage-5-pocket-version

The 'miner fit' is pretty slim.. the 'regular fit' is tiiiight and the 'slim fit' is --------------------- (only audible by dogs) 

I had 2 pairs from him over the years. Both miner fit (I think they fit a bit like a 50s cut in real life). One in duck canvas(chino design) and another in cone denim (indigo, even though I ordered black, 5 pocket design). 
 

The quality was pretty decent (aside from the button the fell off a week after I started wearing the jeans), but the finishing details on the jeans are not really to my liking. 
 

the customer service was awful. Time frames where tripled than stated before purchase and the guy would just ghost my emails for months until I email a PayPal dispute in which case I would get an email after 24 hours or so that my order was sent. 
 

the packaging was nice though, with flashers and instructions on how to wash (opposite from the SC booklet you posted. Don’t let water touch it for so and so months etc). 

Edited January 18 by Hopethisoneisnttaken

[Broark]

7 hours ago, CSL said:

When I first came to the US (1988) I thought Fort Worth was great.

Problem with DFW is that it's got no soul, and it's been stuck in the same time as when you visited. 
Sure there are interesting pockets (like with any major city), but there's something I can't quite put my finger on about it.
You go to San Antonio and you see the old missions and the Alamo, Houston has world class museums and some of the best restaurants in the country, Austin has it's own unique sub culture (which has degraded more quickly in the last 5-6 years imo). All pretty decent places to live.
And then you've got Dallas which just feels like it was entirely planned by a 1980s investment banker.
It's a economic hub so there's plenty of work and there is affordable housing given the sprawl (you just have to be willing to traverse through the Mad Max-esq highways and toll roads, risking becoming a victim of vehicular homicide if you aren't going 15+mph over the speed limit at all times). But I don't think you could pay me to relocate there.

CSL this is in no way directed at you, I just get a kick out of ripping on DFW. 

[CSL]

9 hours ago, Broark said:

CSL this is in no way directed at you, I just get a kick out of ripping on DFW. 

No worries! I do recall a lot of Dallas seemed bland. Fort Worth less so, but certainly there was a lot more 'culture' going on in Austin. I wanted to move there in the worst way back in the early 90s. Had I have been single I'd have gone in a minute.

Edited January 18 by CSL

[julian-wolf]

Exciting package today from Lichen Goods

Not sure where I first heard of them but I’ve been following for some time and finally decided to give them a go around a month ago. Very quick turn around for made-to-order, just around 3 weeks from payment to my door, plus around a week at the front end going back and forth over email about sizing before I pulled the trigger (they offered thorough advice and were happy to add some length to the arms of both pieces). The brand is just the two of them, Charlotte & Pepe, and they do everything in-house, including some nice hand-stitched details on each piece. All natural fibers, incl. constructional thread, & all natural dyes where applicable (although I believe all components of the two things I got are just plain undyed). More photos & more impressions to come!

[space_cowboy]

No fit pics!?

[julian-wolf]

feat. Union Special x2, Tightly Stitched, old Cane’s, Frank’s

[MJF9]

@julian-wolf great fit

[ATWM]

Never heard of those folks, looks really nice, right up my alley - and great fit. 

[Hopethisoneisnttaken]

@julian-wolf very nice! Curious to see how the quarter zip fits. Is it lined throughout or just the collar?

[julian-wolf]

Thanks, all!

@Hopethisoneisnttaken It fits boxy through the body, similar to how I'd expect a heavy popover or sweater to fit (reminds me of the Mirror Panel sweater from Tender Co., in particular, fit- and chunk-wise). It's quite warm, so it might be some time before I get a chance to do a decent fit pic in it. The whole thing's lined in a light cotton muslin, incl. sleeves. Wears more like a half-zip than a quarter-zip, but I'm not sure where I'd draw the line

[julian-wolf]

Chilly morning today

feat. Tezomeya, Tender Co.

[Well27]

Very nice! And great fit @julian-wolf

[Double 0 Soul]

The internet has gone wild for the 1/4 zip this last 6mths.. ^that's probably the nicest one i've ever seen!

[julian-wolf]

@Double 0 Soul It's funny how that goes

I've been more than a little obsessed with Cottle's Sunset Pile Pullover—which is more of a true quarter zip—for years now, specifically the white yak blend version w/ the kakishibu linen details…but every time I've looked at it more seriously I've been dissuaded either by the price or by weird feelings about the brand's overall vibe (something about their jeans in particular just makes me want to never buy anything that they make, although I'm sure that that's something I could get over). Anyway, I don't think that I had Cottle on my mind when I found out about Lichen initially, but the Sunset Pile jacket was definitely the most direct stylistic point of comparison that I was thinking of when I bought this, and I think it fills a similar enough niche to keep me at bay for at least another while

[ATWM]

^ I bought a few of Cottle’s “low” price items a few years ago, and they make other stuff I really like - including that fleece - also excluding their denim - but yeah this makes sense. The pricing is outrageous enough to keep me off forever I think. Love the Lichen garment you’ve got above. I myself got a wool fleece (full zip) last year from de Bonne Facture to try to fill that gap and am happy I did. If not I’d be seriously tempted by the above one, I like it a lot.  

[TripicalMidbooster]

Decided to test my clothing photography setup in my new place today. These are a pair of Cargo Geth jeans by Rick Owens DRKSHDW from 2022. They were made in Japan from a 16oz black/black denim, and were raw when I started wearing them a year ago. A lot of nice puckering and marbling now that they’ve softened up. I like them a lot; they feel heavy duty like Iron Heart.

[youngofthesoonest]

On 3/11/2026 at 9:52 AM, julian-wolf said:

Chilly morning today

feat. Tezomeya, Tender Co.

ohhh this looks very nice. what size did you end up going with?

[julian-wolf]

@youngofthesoonest Thanks, I’m super pleased with it. I went with an L and had them add ~3 cm to the arm length. Sizing based on their measurements was tricky: it looked like an M might be a safer bet, I guess due to the wide / boxy body, but after emailing back and forth they strongly suggested an L, and I’m glad I went with their suggestion. They were super helpful over email, overall

[Broark]

Just received these fatigue pants from Hendrix Park located in Sausalito CA. It's a one man brand run by Rix, I believe he's sold another pair through S&S in the past.
I picked these up directly from him after exchanging some Instagram messages.
The fabric is a black herringbone denim from Nihon Menpu, very lightweight and good for the summer. It's a pretty tough fabric to photograph, it's a bit darker in person.
Construction is very clean throughout, I have a feeling I'll be ordering other pairs in other fabrics in the future.

[Broark]

Another pair of Hendrix Park fatigues to self-bump this thread. 
This pair is made from a heavily indigo saturated HBT fabric, I barely handled these and my fingertips were turning blue.
A bit difficult to get the right color on these, but they look like a traditional French blue.

[nopal]

Gorgeous blue color. Would be a lovely set if there was a matching jacket.

[mlwdp]

Anybody here wear Lady White Co?  I have one tshirt from them back when Self Edge used to carry them.  Might give them more a shot, Phigvel did a collab with them. How’s their sizing? 

[Geeman]

Standard western sizing, wash well with minimal shrinkage on a cool wash. I have 1 long sleeve t from them and really like it @mlwdp

[nick682]

20 minutes ago, mlwdp said:

Anybody here wear Lady White Co?  I have one tshirt from them back when Self Edge used to carry them.  Might give them more a shot, Phigvel did a collab with them. How’s their sizing? 

I have quite a bit of Lady White.  Their sizing is fairly normal - I wear a medium in several of their shirts and a large specifically in their "our t shirt".  I highly recommend their shirts. 

[ATWM]

5 hours ago, mlwdp said:

Anybody here wear Lady White Co?  I have one tshirt from them back when Self Edge used to carry them.  Might give them more a shot, Phigvel did a collab with them. How’s their sizing? 

I’ve finally accepted I like their standard t shirts better than anything from Japan to be honest. They are hard wearing and fit well. I also have the shorts they did with Kaptain Sunshine (first pair of shorts I bought in like a decade!) and they are great - the fabric is remarkable. I wear a small in their t shirt - it’s fairly snug but a good, classic fit, when in Japan sizes I’m a medium, so yes - standard western sizing. 

[Cold Summer]

Speaking of tees, I got a couple of Sunray tees from my local store Guilty Party recently. Great tees, first time in a while I've dipped my toes into fancy T-shirts. Very soft fabric with tons of character, not super thick, and the colors especially are nice. They're made in Japan but the brand is based in England.

[Maynard Friedman]

Not unknown at all, but I really like the Armor Lux heritage stripe t-shirts, organic cotton and made in France. You can always find them at a discount somewhere. I think I have 5 now, bought over the last few years.