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Lvc 1937 at the bottom, Csf 1941 in the middle and FW42's at the top. Both the repro 37 and 42 models have the standard yoke set up, whereas the pair in the middle do not. The standard yoke set up is what we are used to seeing on 501's made from April 1942 up until the present day which sees the bottom panels overlap the top ones, like on the lvc 37's and FW42's shown. The non-standard yoke set up is the csf 1941 pair in the middle. It sees the top panels overlapping the lower ones, a feature which just about 99% of the denim pants manufacturers used in their jeans construction at the time, only levis waited until c.1940 to do it, then flipped it back c.April 1942. Hopefully cleared all that up now 🙃

rrl/whitesville/sugar cane/ birk

Action shot in beige FTW para hat, carhartt X2, buzz, vans, easpak helmet bag

Filson x Governor Baxter Vest Hardenco denim workshirt Runabout Goods jeans Nicks boots

Cushman has put its 2024 FW catalogue online. There are some nice pieces in there. Type 1 jacket and 1937 jeans. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kcfV2Uq_ZWjzvxrWv9E9dEe2EmCgjwke/view They are both made with vintage sewing machines. 41 Weapon Cloth pants Duck jackets in light brown and black The tshirts from the summer catalogue are also sewn with vintage machines. The made in Taiwan sneakers are also nice. All have relatively fair prices, I find.

0105 about 14 months of wear, regular wash

Great Lakes x2 / The Flat Head / The Vanishing West / Russell

Yes there were two different things happening, the yoke switch (as already described) And the switching of the left over right/right over left back panels. The yoke switch around has now been roughly estimated c.1940- August 1942. Whereas the back panels switch around several times between 1937 and 1942. I have a few images but they're on my defunct laptop unfortunately, of levis 501's made between 1937 and 1942 which show variation in the back panel set up. So in the examples you've shown of the FW models, the FW37 and the FW42's have both types of back panel set up you would expect to see within that time frame. It's one of those weird anomalies that l almost didn't want to accept as it was confusing the hell out me and l couldn't date it exactly 😁 Now l understand it is just a feature of that time frame with no real explanations as to why(?) Maybe they were just experimenting with things as there were a few short lived experiments that didn't stay long, for example - the understitched rear belt loop which was a feature on pairs made in and around 1935/36, when the '1922' 501 was replaced by the '1937' model. We still don't know why or what that was all about but there's plenty of speculation.

I remember.. shaved head, tattoos, wide jeans? or is that Crime Watch i'm thinking of? If you're only looking at short distance, i'd avoid anything north of the border .. or Scotland as Duke likes to call it Lakes might be a bit busy for you in May.. same with Snowdonia, it can feel like you're queueing to summit Everest but fear not, ^this is what the UK does best.. Check out the Peak District .. it's incredible but bear in mind that the weather can change in a heartbeat, i rode up to Burbage yesterday and this was the view.. Head down walking into the wind and horizontal rain aint 'relaxing' Check out Malham Cove in North Yorks / Yorkshire Dales, Northumberland, Dartmoor and such.. also worth checking out are coastal trails, Pembrokeshire or Jurrasic Coast, just remember, it's tidal so don't get yourselves stranded.. also worth considering.. we have a lot of beautiful ye' olde' worldy villages which you can spend the day pottering around.

No clue how old it is but I snagged this vintage Rustler jacket yesterday for a song. I dig the slim fit, and it sits right where I like my jackets to. I really like the shade of blue and the wear it's got. Always loved the hand warmer pockets on these Rustlers too.

Yesterday my girlfriend and I went to a vintage market and I snagged some great pieces. Everything but the baseball tee and the Jeff Gordon tee were from the same vendor and he cut me a deal that made my day. Been wanting a varsity jacket for a while now so that was a good find. Then back at her apartment I cooked some lions mane mushrooms to make tacos. Never cooked these before but had them once or twice. It's impressive how well you can make them taste and feel like meat (at least from what I can remember). They were fun to cook too. Today she and I went for a bike ride along the Ohio Erie canal towpath. It's nearing the end of September and it's still mid 80s here in Ohio, and I'm over it. I want to wear jackets already.

My ace Wester belt after about 10 yrs of wear. It started out black

Found this pic on lg by accident, and of course had to share. Shame it was the only image. Vintage 501XX sz 32x33 made sometime between c.1940 until c.(April)1942 in Nos condition. Click on image twice for clarity but it's the reverse yoke model which came after '1937' buckleback 501, but before the 1942 buckleback 501(the worn pair in the post above). Copper riveted on the two horse patch and also on the pocket flasher (dated 1937) and the guarantee ticket. First deadstock pair I've ever seen and a thing of beauty, just wish there were more detailed shots of them.

Ah, there were two switches? I thought it was just one. Or are there two versions for 1937 jeans: both right over left (what LVC, FW and TBC a.o. or doing) and also left over right? 1922 FW 1937 FW 1942 FW 1945 FW 1947 FW 1951 FW

same old with pretend very old with quite old presumed 80s usmc / 60s(?) jc higgins for sears n roebuck / tcb / r-mocs oneida

We been having this swastika discussion every couple of years for as long as i can remember.. Anywho.. since it was last debated, i've dug this up It's actually paleolithic.. possibly the oldest recognised complex symbol which mankind has been carving into rocks.. an ivory figurine was found in the Ukraine with the swastika carved into it which was carbon dated to 15,000yrs old The theory is.. If you cut a piece of mammoth ivory through it's core.. the growth structure of the bone is in the shape of a repeating swastika.. hence mankind has been aware of the symbol and revered it since we've been hunting mammoth

@Alec Leamas, no worries, hope you had a good trip and thanks for the follow up! I appreciate the measurements and hope to follow up in here if I get some.

In India, you can see the swastika everywhere. The symbol holds various meanings, and in everyday life, it is believed to bring good fortune in a material sense. That’s why swastikas can be seen on the doors of small shops and stores. Here are a few photos I took in Tiruvannamalai, a holy city in southern India. In the first one, swastikas, along with three lines and tridents—symbols of Shiva—are captured somewhere within the vast Arunachalesvara Temple complex. Also, within the same complex, there’s a hexagram on one of the gates. However, in India, it has its own meaning, unrelated to Judaism. Another swastika is on the emblem of a house gate, indicating that followers of Jainism religion live there.

No unfortunately not. And now l have my teenage son living with me, so for him it's a magic laundry basket but for me it's more washing to organise and get dry ... So l have an non-magical laundry basket atm 🥲 (tiny violin playing in the background)

🤣 the magic laundry basket

Good advice all ‘round mate Englandshire is definitely the ‘easier’ option and prettier option off the hill. British mountains aren’t really all that big but some are far from easy. The hills in Scotland and Wales tend to be a tougher for a few reasons; they are a bit bigger but importantly they are usually more remote and have longer walk-ins meaning it’ll take you a lot longer to drive to a starting point, and that starting point will still be some way from the mountain or hill so you have a good walk before you start a harder walk. But maybe ‘hikes’ don’t mean anything other than some nice walks in good scenery - it was distance not elevation that was mentioned. Aonach Eagach is about 8km - it takes (took) me nothing less than 6 and usually nearer 7 hours.

Lake District is perfect I think. I don't know how busy is too busy for you but if you avoid the obvious routes (e.g. Scafell Pike) I think you'd be fine. I second the Peak District as well though.

I'd say the XL is similar to a 42. For a more comfortable fit I got the XXL. I think, only Junky has it.

There doesn't seem to be any reasons why they switched from right over left panels, to left over right panels on the back of the top block, if that's what you're asking? They seem to switch backwards and forwards over the period 1937- 42, which is strange considering only one factory before 1943. The yoke, from underlapped to overlapped, and then back again, as l've just explained, changed in around 1940 and returned to normal in 1942. Nobody seems to know the reason for that change either.

Any of the ol fellas from my era on the forum still around? 2016-2019 ish ? How has everybody been?

dont wanna trigger u anymore than u already r 00, but u mustve lost reams of records of yr nerdiness in the big denimbro thread pogrom... i can still smell the fresh south yorkshire air while hunting for wild mushrooms w/ mini00, the wood shavings in yr workshop (the shoe stretcher (?) was mad lit!), the bike grease burning instant potholes on yr rmc ww2...

I have a few Mercer OCBDs -- very nice materials and construction. Standard/classic fit is really big through the middle (like old BB), but they do offer tapering options (e.g., 0.5 - 2"), which don't affect neck and shoulder measurements.

That perspective might shift if you had some tees made from fabric worth appreciating After all, I’d bet a vast majority of folks would say the same about jeans if asked, and you’ve never seemed to have any trouble on that front

1946 model

50’s Jacket hardware has patinaed quickly.

Vintage golf cap, Bronson, FW, belt obbi good with changed buckle, Hollows key thingie, Novesta.

In Germany it's still very sensitive. You'd get into trouble with Native American/South West inspired jewelry, jackets, etc.. Recently there has been some argument about this window iron of the Town Hall of Lichtenberg, a district of Berlin. https://www.bz-berlin.de/berlin/hakenkreuz-rathaus-lichtenberg

My boy has a magical house hold, where I see him about 10 min. A day. life

No politics here by the way

Yes it came like that, but it came from a shop in Seattle I think, forgot the name now. They might have sorted it like that. i thought we were slowly steering towards a world where it would be ancient history and you can wear it again as a cool looking symbol. I have a book from a guy who is tattooed fully with all kinds of swastikas in all different styles and shapes, it was his way of making it not a nazi symbol. unfortunatly we are not there yet

Yes it came like that, but it came from a shop in Seattle I think, forgot the name now. They might have sorted it like that. i thought we were slowly steering towards a world where it would be ancient history and you can wear it again as a cool looking symbol. I have a book from a guy who is tattooed fully with all kinds of swastikas in all different styles and shapes, it was his way of making it not a nazi symbol. unfortunatly we are not there yet

^you have one too? @Dr_Heech?

Our trip will be longer and we’re still working that out, just the part I’m talking about, 4-5 days is the goal. Far flung (within reason) is ok.

All sounds good UK advice... one consideration @AlientoyWorkmachine is which airport you'll fly into and how long you'll end up travelling to get to the destination. It's only 4-5 days and best parts of 2 days could be eaten up travelling internally with more far flung UK locations. If flying into London, the Peak District would be OK... maybe some of our southern Sufu-ers have some options closer to the big smoke (London)

^no , no regime here. Take it of, uncuff the cuffs, throw it in the basket, and wait till it reappears again

Final check on two of the best Freewheelers pieces: Woollen Sweater - SOLD The turndown collar sweater coat - 2kg of the best soft cosy wool, knitted by the only guy in Japan that can. This was one of the original batch of 50 that was made. Pretty much mint condition, p2p is 20” but the knit is stretchy. Less than half price at £350 (shipping will be depending on where and what method) More baseball influence - Barnstormers Rigging Co. Baseball Style Warm-up Sweater in a deep rust orange beach cloth - really unusual to see beach cloth in this tone but it’s NOT a difficult colour to wear (anyone starts with ‘earth tones’ or somesuch can f-ck right off 😂). Barnstormers were/are Freewheelers high end experimental lab - a lot of hand made, exotic material, extremely limited edition stuff. Anyways, again, a bit under half price at £300. Mint condition and about 20.5” p2p These will be available only until Tuesday, so if you’re interested DM me

Celluloid 1984 still has Japanese prices for FC

Hi @jeash90 sorry for the delay I've been on holiday this week! They are indeed great, I've worn them just about every day since I got them and I am very much enjoying them. So I bought these one-washed direct from Warehouse, so I can't comment on the initial shrinkage - I did note though that when I received them Warehouse's description on first wash shrinkage was accurate. Here's some measurements for you - the first number is the Warehouse measurement minus what they've suggested for shrinkage in each measurement, and the second measurement is the one I've just taken now, having washed them 1 week ago and worn them every day since (so I would guess that they've stretched out in every dimension as much as they're going to - I've mountain biked, hiked, barbecued etc in them this week) [L32 / Size34] Waist (W) - 83cm // 82cm Thigh (T) - 31cm // 32cm Front rise (F) - 30.5cm // 32cm Back rise (B) - 42cm // 42cm Hem width (O) - 21.5cm // 22cm Not bothered with the inseam as I had Warehouse hem them before sending. PS. If buying direct from Warehouse is an option, my experience buying one-washed and their in-house hem was a very good one - I'll share some photos of how they're looking soon, probably after their next wash!

Pricey M41001 but good condition / size https://zenmarket.jp/en/auction.aspx?itemCode=q1152578984

TCB 1890s tux/J Press madras popover/Rancourt beefrolls

More Canes... these came From Japan... big thank you to @nopal who provided the tip-off this time 👍 M41030V... a '37 model, in size w36, l36 which levels out at about a w34. Interestingly laurel wreath buttons - can do more pics later They look unworn but washed... the hem has slight signs of roping and the inseam was 87 which iirc is about what my M41001 were at post-wash So I quickly tried 'em on - a nice wide fit - and stuck 'em in a 40C wash Post wash, the measurements are unchanged... I'll be calling on @Mr Black's hemming services soon

In other news… Picked up my absolute dream pair around a month ago, the M41059. I actually already had a pair, which I’d found years ago in the same size (33) as my first M41058, but it turned out that these run around a size smaller, and there was no chance they were going to be comfortable after shrinking. These new ones are tagged 35, and in great condition. Ignoring older MP-series wares like the above, this model has always been right at the top of the list of Cane’s I’d like to find.

Cheers mate 🍻 … gotta be honest though, the customers often weigh in with ideas and almost always the concept at the very least

I am out of words Duke. You win. What amazes me is how unique all of your belts are. How you come up with so many fresh designs is astounding.