Samurai Jeans

[beautiful_FrEaK]

I could make this my sig:  I always measure the waist on any jeans I own (and BiG carries) 1" smaller than it is stated on BiG charts.

(I'm just assuming here): maybe they didn't actually measure the pairs again for you but just said "they all measure 35 inch", because they might have measured that on one pair. Who knows.

[Robert Langdon]

I really stressed the thigh being 13" too. Actual measurement is 12.75. I know the return policy says unaltered merchandise but I'm hoping they can make an exception. We will see

[Max Power]

I asked gordon to measure my pair - it was 100% exact and he also included pictures of the measuring tape. I agree that the stated measurements run slighty larger than they really are, but upon request they got everything right. I feel sorry for you, hope all turns out well.

[spython]

I could make this my sig:  I always measure the waist on any jeans I own (and BiG carries) 1" smaller than it is stated on BiG charts.

meaning that a tagged 32" waist that BiG says is 34" is really 33"..?

[Robert Langdon]

@maxpower

I never talked to Gordon. I think he was an Asian guy. But thanks

[beautiful_FrEaK]

@spython: exactly. I can speak for Eternal, Fullcount and Samurai

 

edit: oh and I measure just like they do in their guide

Edited November 7, 2013 by beautiful_FrEaK

[501XX4EVER]

Got my redhawk 710s and they are too small. I called the shop 3 times and they told me the waist measured 35" on all 4 pairs they had in stock. So I end up gettimg them cut a few inches. Turns out the waist comes in at just barely 17". They fit too snug pre soak but absolutely no room to stretch afterwards. I'm probably stuck with these after having them altered. I'm bummed. Pics later

 

That's a bummer and makes me a little less likely to ever order from BiG if they are that inconsistent with their measuring, however, I wouldn't give up hope just yet. I recently purchased a pair of the 15th 710's in 34 x 36 from ebay, they were hemmed but unwashed. They were listed at a 35" waist raw, which I though would be perfect, however when I got them on me in the raw I thought they were way to tight and was worried about them after a they got their baptisim. For the first two-ish days after the soak & gentle machine wash they were a bit uncomfortable but they have stretched to the point where I have to wear a belt with them. Also these are 19 ounce, yours are 17 ounce, which I think most Samurai heads would agree are the most "stretchy", so maybe all is not lost after all?

[Max Power]

My expeirence with the 21 and 19 oz denim is, that you're able to stretch them back to the raw size and probably beyond that. But that doesn't help you, if they run too small before soaking. My advise is not to soak them, as it reduces the value in case you have to sell these.

[ColdStorage]

Robert: in my experience, Samurai always stretches to 1" past raw state eventually after wear. If you get stuck with em, you might try the 'wearing em in the tub and takin em for a stroll while drying' method... I wouldn't be surprised if you ended up near 35 after that.

What is the presoak inseam? 34 is a desirable size you might be able to sell em easy.

[Robert Langdon]

@coldstorage

I tried them on and they fit how I wanted them to fit post cold soak, snug. The waist is absolute 34" which affects the thigh measurement even though slightly. I bought them taking stretch into account. I called BIG this morning and emailed Gordon with measurement pics. Hopefully he can help me

@501xx

The last thing I want is to put BIG on blast and give them a faulty rep. I think maybe it was a misunderstanding or maybe an oversight on their part. I've ordered from them in the past (710xxW34) and everything worked out.

The inseam is 37.25... A little over an inch cutoff. Not even 1.5

[Foxy2]

Based on my past few purchases of recent models (S500XX-15th, S526VX-L-15th, S5000VX-15th) you should have no problem stretching them 1-2" past original waist measurement.

Easiest way was to stretch them while wet right after soaking/washing.

[501XX4EVER]

Based on my past few purchases of recent models (S500XX-15th, S526VX-L-15th, S5000VX-15th) you should have no problem stretching them 1-2" past original waist measurement.

Easiest way was to stretch them while wet right after soaking/washing.

 

Wait a minute there Foxy, you have the S526VX-L-15th and you're only mentioning it now???

 

SPILL. THE. BEANS.

 

Also, please post some photos. :D

[xchen]

pics incoming by i washed my size 32 15th anniversary 710s a second time, on hot this time, and they continued to shrink a good bit more. All shrinkage should be out of the way now and the fit is spot on. haven't had an unsanforized pair since the eternal contest so i'm quite looking forward to breaking these in.

[Foxy2]

Wait a minute there Foxy, you have the S526VX-L-15th and you're only mentioning it now???

SPILL. THE. BEANS.

Also, please post some photos. :D

I forgot...will do.

[ColdStorage]

Wait a minute there Foxy, you have the S526VX-L-15th and you're only mentioning it now???

 

SPILL. THE. BEANS.

 

Also, please post some photos. :D

 

Yup, that caught my attention too. Would love to see some pics. Been lusting after them pretty hard myself but I had already reserved the S634XX-15th with Yuichi and they are so similar its hard to justify.*

 

*(although... the fact they are so similar would really help in sneaking a new pair past the wife)

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[louisbosco]

Yup, that caught my attention too. Would love to see some pics. Been lusting after them pretty hard myself but I had already reserved the S634XX-15th with Yuichi and they are so similar its hard to justify.*

 

*(although... the fact they are so similar would really help in sneaking a new pair past the wife)

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hahaha just a convo between a man and a wife.

 

"you bought another jeans?!?!"

"no dear, this is samurai and those are levi's, they're the same, no new ones" 

[Robert Langdon]

Gordons customer service is above and beyond.

Before calling me he emails me detailed pics of the last 3 redhawks in my size. Waist and thigh taped up. He goes on to apologize and stresses he doesn't want his customers to be stuck with jeans that don't fit. Even after the inch hem job. At this point he reconciles "its not a matter who's right or wrong". From here he got me thinkin, damn, did I measure them correctly? Lol. Anyway, he gonna let me swap em out and Im psyched.

In the future I will get my jeans hemmed locally just in case they don't fit. Learning lesson.

Thank you Gordon and BIG staff.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

^thanks for the update! local costumer service is really hard to beat. hope it works out for you!

[superego]

Is there a general rule of thumb when it comes to 710 sizing?

I'm thinking about getting a pair of the 15th anniversary ones from Pirates, the stealth arcs are really tempting me.

I'm not familiar with Samurai shrinkage upon soak or anything like that, so any basic guidelines would be helpful.

 

rule of thumb I got, and worked out in sizing my 710s, was that post wash/soak, you can expect them to stretch back out to original measurements.  my 710 black hawks were tagged a 35, measured a 35.5" waist initially, and after one hot wash/hang dry, one cold wash/hang dry and ~2 weeks of wear, are at about 36" (based on feel, haven't measured).

 

was a little freaked after trying them on post wash/dry given how snug they were, but as suspected, they stretched    

[superego]

Got my redhawk 710s and they are too small. I called the shop 3 times and they told me the waist measured 35" on all 4 pairs they had in stock. So I end up gettimg them cut a few inches. Turns out the waist comes in at just barely 17". They fit too snug pre soak but absolutely no room to stretch afterwards. I'm probably stuck with these after having them altered. I'm bummed. Pics later

 

 

I could make this my sig:  I always measure the waist on any jeans I own (and BiG carries) 1" smaller than it is stated on BiG charts.

(I'm just assuming here): maybe they didn't actually measure the pairs again for you but just said "they all measure 35 inch", because they might have measured that on one pair. Who knows.

 

 

I really stressed the thigh being 13" too. Actual measurement is 12.75. I know the return policy says unaltered merchandise but I'm hoping they can make an exception. We will see

 

your best bet for sizing input is emailing gordon directly.  calling the store you're likely to get one of the SAs who may or may not be helpful (I've had both).  that said, sizing on the pairs I've bought from BiG has been consistent with what was listed on the site.  obviously, there's slight differences from pair to pair, and .25" deviations are to be expected.  if you're really insistent on a specific measurement, you can ask them to measure multiple pairs and send the pair with the measurement you want (eg, 13" thigh if there's any variation).  again, depends on the SA you get though. 

 

edit:  and just noticed your most recent post...glad things worked out for you. 

Edited November 10, 2013 by superego

[ppeew]

s710xx

69 day - 8hr./day

[bradl]

Nice price on a pair of S500AI-OGS 45,140 yen

http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/sakurastyle-kobe/item/smj-m01944/

 

 

[marti-mar]

Are those S500AI-OGS's hank dyed? The denim looks similar to the Dry Bones X Self Edge collab.

[bradl]

Yes, it is hank dyed.

[ColdStorage]

Just in from Yuichi:

 

More photos and comments under spoiler:

Denim is very nice with lots of character. Rigid, slubby, hairy... great!

 

This is my 4th pair form the 15th Anniv. series, and each one has different lining on the coin purse. This one is my favorite so far:

With a 10.5 inch hem measurement, this is certainly a much fuller cut than I normally wear. I'm looking forward to it though. Pre soak fit:

 

 

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Nice and unusual purchase. Looking forward to some post-soak fits and evo!

You gonna rock them with suspenders?

[ColdStorage]

Thanks! I'm still experimenting with a personal soaking ritual but my current thinking is that wearing for a few weeks before the first soak gives me the best fit. (Going to be hard with something this extreme but I intend to try). So it might be a bit, but I will get those measurements posted as soon as I have em.

 

Suspenders... not usually my style but buying this pair I will have to give it a shot and see!

[Foxy2]

Nice purchase ColdStorage - tried the S634-AI a few years back and found it too baggy (unsoaked) for my liking way back then...

Here's a sneak preview of my S526VX-L-15th, soaked and hemmed, 2nd day of actual wear:

Crazy leg twist on right leg with this left hand twill:

Very rough & hairy at the moment - more slung than the recent standard version of VX/Zero twill.

I hope to get some sunlight on the weekend for proper pictures.

[lance]

b_F how to size the s5000AI - OGSP and have you

used this site? I thought all of this model were long

gone!

Edit Got the info from the Blue in Green site thanks

Edited November 13, 2013 by lance

[beautiful_FrEaK]

I haven't bought from Sakura Style yet. And unfortunately I don't own the S5000AI-OGSP, just the 510AI-OGSP.

Foxy owns the S5000AI-OGSP and IIRC, it uses also a hank dyed 17oz AI denim like the 510 version, but this time in LHT.

YOu might ask him if they run big, small or TTS