atlast&co , butcher products , timeworn clothing

[Topnotcher]

The button becomes duller over time.

 

 

 

 

[Alec Leamas]

10 hours ago, Topnotcher said:

Yes i mean the taper .

I saw a fit pic on Instagram and i think its fine for my taste ,but that was ONE pic only  .DC 4 get this model in next time and i will check it definitely.The denim looks fantastic and i love the lee style pockets ,i'm in love with my lot 147 😃 

Yeah worth checking out still! It is a fair bit different from the 147 leg that's for sure, but nice jeans all the same.

The denim does indeed look great, and I will eventually share fit pics once they come back from a little trip back to Timeworn!

[scooby]

I got to check out TWC products yesterday at Brogue and was impressed by the styles they carried

Few cuts of jeans, trousers, and jackets. Lot 217 and the denim trousers stood out to me the most

Didn't have my size - thank goodness

 

I do sort of agree with @oomslokop about the hardware - but it looks like it'd age well

Hardware with any kind of finish like that usually patinas quick

At this point I just assume things like that are forethought

 

 

[SLAYER]

Military chino got fucked in the wash, so i decided to overdye them black, came out pretty decent 

[Hopethisoneisnttaken]

@SLAYER looks good! 
 

Any idea what happened in the wash to cause that?

and what did you use to overdye?

[SLAYER]

probably leftover bleach somehow, thats the only explanation i have

dyed with marabu easy color

 

 

[smoothsailor]

Will it turn in some teacore fading?

[MJF9]

Wonder is that what @Duke Mantee uses if he ever does tea-core, not saying that he ever does of course, as if i would 😜

[SLAYER]

5 hours ago, smoothsailor said:

Will it turn in some teacore fading?

only time will tell...

[Double 0 Soul]

That’s a good looking outfit @SLAYER I much prefer these chinos in their new colour!

Strange how the fading is just around the ass.. maybe sitting on a barstool or cafe chair recently wiped down bleach / disinfectant spray?

[SLAYER]

8 minutes ago, Double 0 Soul said:

maybe sitting on a barstool or cafe chair recently wiped down bleach / disinfectant spray?

never even thought of that, but would make alot of sense 

[Loomandstitch]

Has anyone got the lot 402 work trousers and if so do they fit tts, I know brogue has the measurements listed on their website, but wanted to check how they line up in person! 
 

I’ve been burned before when it comes to website vs In person measurements!

 

thanks !

[Alec Leamas]

34 minutes ago, Loomandstitch said:

Has anyone got the lot 402 work trousers and if so do they fit tts, I know brogue has the measurements listed on their website, but wanted to check how they line up in person! 
 

I’ve been burned before when it comes to website vs In person measurements!

 

thanks !

Whenever I have asked TWC themselves over email, the answer is always "the waist is true to size" and that has always been right in my experience - they will happily provide the other measurements on any pair of trousers they have in stock.

I am after a pair of 402 in the brown, I already have the 403 in charcoal and fwiw, they fit true to size in the waist!

[Loomandstitch]

18 hours ago, Alec Leamas said:

Whenever I have asked TWC themselves over email, the answer is always "the waist is true to size" and that has always been right in my experience - they will happily provide the other measurements on any pair of trousers they have in stock.

I am after a pair of 402 in the brown, I already have the 403 in charcoal and fwiw, they fit true to size in the waist!

Sweet !

yeah I messaged Isao and asked about the sizing on them and what he would recommended. Shame they have sold out on the charcoal color though!

what’s the fit like on the lot 403, are they a wide leg ?

[Alec Leamas]

23 hours ago, Loomandstitch said:

Sweet !

yeah I messaged Isao and asked about the sizing on them and what he would recommended. Shame they have sold out on the charcoal color though!

what’s the fit like on the lot 403, are they a wide leg ?

Ahh great okay.

They are, supposed to be wide leg - by my standards these days they aren't really, could be due to the leg crease they seem to be less so too - photo of me in them on page of the waywt thread here: 

As far as I am aware, the 402 are wider and with a higher rise (the rise on these is plenty high - couldn't tell you exactly but I'd expect 13-14cm)

[SLAYER]

Mentioning that front crease, got me thinking again.

I see the point of a front crease in classic tailoring, but there the fabrics are softer and still drape nice with a crease.

But since chinos are stiffer it creates a much more tapered look from the front, which looks weird, especially if done aggressive, meanwhile from the side it looks totally fine

Also found this guy doing it on denim which looks weird too.

I know its also been done historically, but i wonder whats your take on it?

 

 

[Double 0 Soul]

Awful.. makes me cringe.

First photo (side view) does look good  tho.

[Broark]

I'm with 00 on this, I can't stand the front crease.

[FurnitureMaker]

I’ve always disliked the front crease, and for that matter, also front pleats.  For so long in fact, that I might be coming around to thinking both are cool. 

and with this realization, Ive instantaneously convinced myself that there is a major void that I will only remedy with obsessive amounts of online searching for the perfect pair of pleated, creased trousers. 

[Double 0 Soul]

Have you been sniffing furniture polish again?

Try the classics range at Marks & Sparks.

[ATWM]

The only image where the front crease looks suitable is the 4th one, with the olive wool looking trousers. That one works for me. 

Jeans, no. Save the iron for the white collar wear. 

T shirts with the crease - it’s a look, indeed. One of being not fully dressed. Conjures up no positive associations for me. 

The 2nd and 3rd image the crease just looks really out of place.

Pleats, I can down with them sometimes. I own a few in my cords. They just make for some more comfortable pants. Most of the time they don’t change the look enough one way or another for me to have too strong a feeling on. Except on jeans. Awful. 

[CSL]

I usually press mine with a crease. Having the crease helps wide leg chinos to not look too 'flared' from the front view.(Echoing what Slayer said.) 

For a vintage look (which I'm aware most here are not pursuing) the crease is the way it was done - military uniforms and workwear. The thing is with chinos the twill fabric doesn't hold the crease long, so that extra-crisp look is pretty much gone within about a half hour of wear. After that they look relaxed and natural despite the remains of the crease.

 

 

 

Edited January 30 by CSL

[Hopethisoneisnttaken]

I don’t mind the crease with non denim pants. I think it looks bad with denim and even worse is the fading it creates. 

[Loomandstitch]

On 1/28/2026 at 3:33 PM, Alec Leamas said:

Ahh great okay.

They are, supposed to be wide leg - by my standards these days they aren't really, could be due to the leg crease they seem to be less so too - photo of me in them on page of the waywt thread here: 

As far as I am aware, the 402 are wider and with a higher rise (the rise on these is plenty high - couldn't tell you exactly but I'd expect 13-14cm)

Ok that’s good to know!

Yeah man everything that’s says their a “wide leg” or featured as wide never actually seems to be wide, maybe it’s jsut seeing them on shorter people makes them look wider but whenever I seem to try on the same or something similar they just shrink lol!

[MJF9]

Argyle pullover sweater... grandpa core vibes

[smoothsailor]

I dig grandpa core.

cardigan over this jumper

[Alec Leamas]

8 hours ago, MJF9 said:

Argyle pullover sweater... grandpa core vibes

The jumper's looking lovely mate!

Nice and warm?

Edit: Also, what label was this released under? BP??

Edited February 7 by Alec Leamas

[MJF9]

^ cheers pal... yeah it's nice and warm... I wear a long sleeved tee-shirt under too to avoid wool on skin

It's under At Last, surprisingly

[Double 0 Soul]

Grandpa-core?.. pah!

With a pair of Adidas Handball (tobacco brown, gum sole) and some Lois jeans you could pull off early 80s terrace-wear!

Liverpool nil - Plymouth Argyle 8..

Edited February 8 by Double 0 Soul

[MJF9]

Takes me back... Diamond (Argyle) Pringle with Lois back in the day (or Farah for school wear), either sporting Adidas shoes (Corsica) or Trimm Trab... classic top scally combos

Reminded me I got a book called Counter Culture last year from some scouse fellas which documents their story with casual clobber from the early 80s with examples they had kept or sourced (fair play as that's an achievement for c 40 years ago).  It's a beast of a book, weighing in at 4.5kg no less.  There's opinion in, and why not, plenty of nostalgia and a lot of it resonates with my early 80s - 90s memories and thoughts.  Stoked up memories of gear I had (and wore to death) or had coveted.   

I've been meaning to post some photos from it for ages... here's a few related to the Argyle, scally clobber chit chat...

Edited February 8 by MJF9