Acronym.

[brainerd666]

  On 8/28/2019 at 11:54 PM, eyeheartny said:

 

Thanks guys. So I'm not off base to be thinking of a Medium if I have a 35" waist with a 30" inseam? 6'2", 215-220ish. The rest of the measurements look good in terms of half hem, outseam, etc. 

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[neromancer]

I've been using the 3A-5TS from last year as a work bag almost everyday since I got it from it's drop. Thought it would be the bag I'd use for the next 5 or so years, but then along came the 3A-5... Here's a little writeup of a comparison between the two.

For a little context, I commute to work by bike everyday and have to carry a 15 inch laptop, a change of clothes, and an extra pair of shoes. The size of the 5TS and 5 perfectly fit my needs, but the differences on the 5 were surprisingly helpful. The obvious differences are the roll top lid and the two giant fixed pockets in the front. My biggest gripe with the 5TS was that anytime I wanted to grab something from the main body, I'd have to pop open 3 buckles and refasten them closed all over again. The roll top feature solves this nicely by reducing the buckles I need to fiddle around with to 1, and also stowing away the excess material of the flap. Much easier to grab something from the bag with the top rolled in when the bag is still strapped tight to yourself.

The two exterior pockets are a nice addition to the bag. I had the first generation xpac 5TS before getting last year's, and a feature I missed a lot were the two built in zipper compartments on each side of the bag. With the newer 5TS, I tried to recreate these by sticking two MZ1's vertically on each side. The exterior 3A-5 pockets hold much more than the MZ1's ever could, making the MZ1's no longer necessary. The mezzanine pockets behind them are really useful as well and serve as a nice little spot to store items you'd like to grab quickly without having to fuss with any buckles or zippers.

Despite the lack of TS, the attachment loops on the 5 work well if you still want to expand your storage. Though the website only demonstrated you could attach a MK1 and MK3, I was able to attach my MZ1's without any issues. While I opted not to use the MZ1's anymore, I've attached a DSPTCH glasses case to 1 loop, a key charm to another, and a grimloc carabiner to another to hold my keys.

A surprising change was the inclusion of two smaller inner zipper pockets as opposed to the single pocket of the five. Though a seemingly minor change, it helps partition my smaller items nicely. Although the single pocket from the 5TS is larger than one from the 5, the combined volume of the two smaller pockets is greater. Here's to hoping including two of these pockets becomes a standard and not just unique to the 5.

There are some subtle differences you might miss that aren't obvious in the product shots. The lid on the 5 is reinforced with 3 sections that helps act as a guide to properly fold it in. It also helps give it a nice solid shape and structure, making the 5TS lid feel flimsy in comparison. Another small difference is the left and right buckles on the 5 can't slide up quite as high as on the 5TS due to the stitching on the thumb-break closures for the exterior pockets. This slightly restricts the expansion of the 5 vs the 5TS. I'd often pack my 5TS to the max fully expanded for weekend to week long trips. Though the difference is small, I'm a little worried for when I'll have to pack similarly with the 5.

Despite the suggestively simpler name, the 3A-5 is in many ways a worthy upgrade to the tried and true 5TS. The 5 solved most of my gripes with the 5TS and will probably be the bag I'll use for years to come, unless Acronym and Bagjack manage to find another surprising way to improve the bag again (which I'm sure they will). Hope you all enjoyed my sincere writeup.

Edited August 29, 2019 by neromancer
just noticed the interior pockets of the 5 were smaller than the pocket from the 5ts lol

[Archival]

the amount of fomo I'm suffering from is unrivaled after reading that.

cheers @neromancer

[junkie_dolphin]

Great stuff Neromancer!

Regarding the annoyance of undoing three buckles to get to the main compartment: 90% of the time I only do up the centre buckle, and that works fine for me (when you look at pics of how Errolson sets his up, he actually has mods blocking the use of at least one of the three buckles, and it looks like he only ever really uses the centre buckle).

Also, I'm curious—I've had a hard enough time keeping mods from detaching from the webbing on my 5TS (mostly it's an issue with the MK pockets)—are those loops really reliable for keeping mods attached? Seems like they'd be kind of flimsy...

[jawnsnow]

  On 8/29/2019 at 5:41 AM, junkie_dolphin said:

Great stuff Neromancer!

Regarding the annoyance of undoing three buckles to get to the main compartment: 90% of the time I only do up the centre buckle, and that works fine for me (when you look at pics of how Errolson sets his up, he actually has mods blocking the use of at least one of the three buckles, and it looks like he only ever really uses the centre buckle).

Also, I'm curious—I've had a hard enough time keeping mods from detaching from the webbing on my 5TS (mostly it's an issue with the MK pockets)—are those loops really reliable for keeping mods attached? Seems like they'd be kind of flimsy...

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Get some molle clips from amazon. They will change your life. I threw all my C rings away. 

[neromancer]

  On 8/29/2019 at 5:35 AM, Archival said:

the amount of fomo I'm suffering from is unrivaled after reading that.

cheers @neromancer

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Hahaha, I actually had huge fomo because I slept on it for the drop and watched it sell out. But thankfully @Wklcarl helped sell me one of his friend's.

 

  On 8/29/2019 at 5:43 AM, lxkhor said:

Get some molle clips from amazon. They will change your life. I threw all my C rings away. 

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^This. If you look at the picture of my MZ1, it's held on with some clips I bought off Amazon. Unfortunately the attachment loops on the 5 aren't quite as wide as a single slot in molle webbing and thus you can't slide the clip through to attach as designed, but the clips can clamp down onto the attachment loops and hold it together pretty securely with friction.

[lopiteaux]

  On 8/28/2019 at 11:54 PM, eyeheartny said:

 

Thanks guys. So I'm not off base to be thinking of a Medium if I have a 35" waist with a 30" inseam? 6'2", 215-220ish. The rest of the measurements look good in terms of half hem, outseam, etc. 

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Not off base no, but I would actually suggest a large.

[Wklcarl]

  On 8/29/2019 at 6:01 AM, neromancer said:

  On 8/29/2019 at 5:35 AM, Archival said:

the amount of fomo I'm suffering from is unrivaled after reading that.

cheers @neromancer

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Hahaha, I actually had huge fomo because I slept on it for the drop and watched it sell out. But thankfully @Wklcarl helped sell me one of his friend's.

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Glad to hear that you're happy with it.

I have 3a-5 also, I agree with you. I love it more than 5ts at this moment. Some bro complained it's too expensive, but I guess it's fairer to compare 3a-5 vs (5ts + mk3 x 2 pcs)

Edited August 29, 2019 by Wklcarl

[neromancer]

  On 8/29/2019 at 6:25 AM, Wklcarl said:

Glad to hear that you're happy with it.

I have 3a-5 also, I agree with you. I love it more than 5ts at this moment. Some bro said it's too expensive, but it's fairer to compare 3a-5 vs 5ts + mk3 x 2 pcs.

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Compared to the 5TS, the 5 was only about 60 more euros from the mothership if I remember the pricing right. The 5 is a much better bang for your buck. Once I sell off my 5TS and MZ1's, I'll earn back the cost of the 5 and then some.

[Xu Jianfeng]

https://weibo.com/tv/v/I4ry21ZFg?fid=1034:4410590756821200

 

twisted feeling bout this(the muji travel case and the kicks suck, but the gal do the pants kind alright).

or just name it the acrnm brand image till this stage...

Edited August 29, 2019 by Xu Jianfeng

[hentaiyarou69]

  On 8/29/2019 at 8:40 AM, Xu Jianfeng said:

https://weibo.com/tv/v/I4ry21ZFg?fid=1034:4410590756821200

 

twisted feeling bout this(the muji travel case and the kicks suck, but the gal do the pants kind alright).

or just name it the acrnm brand image till this stage...

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Is this where all the XS went

[eyeheartny]

  On 8/29/2019 at 6:16 AM, lopiteaux said:

Not off base no, but I would actually suggest a large.

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How come? The measurements look spot on in a medium so curious why you think so. The waist would be too big by nearly 2" in the Large and the outseam nearly 2" longer than I tend to need as well. 

[dreamboatjustsoul]

  On 8/29/2019 at 9:49 AM, hentaiyarou69 said:

Is this where all the XS went

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I think they are p25-ds 

[emenel]

  On 8/29/2019 at 2:00 PM, eyeheartny said:

How come? The measurements look spot on in a medium so curious why you think so. The waist would be too big by nearly 2" in the Large and the outseam nearly 2" longer than I tend to need as well. 

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I’m a 5’11 and 34 waist and wear a L in all acrnm pants... but the old version of the p32 from a few years ago was even small in L for me... 

I’m not sure how they measure vs how you are measuring, but with a size 35 waist I would get the L for sure based on all the other ones I own.

[lopiteaux]

  On 8/29/2019 at 2:00 PM, eyeheartny said:

How come? The measurements look spot on in a medium so curious why you think so. The waist would be too big by nearly 2" in the Large and the outseam nearly 2" longer than I tend to need as well. 

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Per many previous posts in this thread, you should ignore the waist measurement for wide- and ultra wide trousers.

That aside, I'm basing my statement on the fact that I'm 6' and wear a medium. As you're 6'2", and the outseam of the large is 1" longer vis-a-vis the medium, a large sounds like a better fit.

In the end it's all down to personal preference. I quite often roll the hem of mine, as I like the look, so you could argue that I could go with a shorter outseam as well.

Edited August 29, 2019 by lopiteaux

[emenel]

  On 8/29/2019 at 3:05 PM, lopiteaux said:

Per many previous posts in this thread, you should ignore the waist measurement for wide- and ultra wide trousers.

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The p32 in question is not wide, and in my experience has a very fitted waist... 

[lopiteaux]

  On 8/29/2019 at 3:08 PM, emenel said:

The p32 in question is not wide, and in my experience has a very fitted waist... 

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My bad, it's been a long day - I thought you were talking about the P30.

[Danwise]

  On 8/29/2019 at 2:00 PM, eyeheartny said:

How come? The measurements look spot on in a medium so curious why you think so. The waist would be too big by nearly 2" in the Large and the outseam nearly 2" longer than I tend to need as well. 

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If conversion is correct your roughly 188cm and 97kg in real money. Definitely need L from my perspective. 191cm and 87kg here, I’m XL in almost everything, but L in P10A-DS (because of stretch) which is 1.5cm longer on website than P32.

My only Q would be - P32 owners - does any excess baginess translate to length? Wouldn’t have thought so...

Edited August 29, 2019 by Danwise

[lopiteaux]

  On 8/29/2019 at 4:08 PM, Danwise said:

"in real money"

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Love it.

[X.bee]

  On 8/29/2019 at 2:20 PM, emenel said:

I’m a 5’11 and 34 waist and wear a L in all acrnm pants... but the old version of the p32 from a few years ago was even small in L for me... 

I’m not sure how they measure vs how you are measuring, but with a size 35 waist I would get the L for sure based on all the other ones I own.

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What's this older P32 you speak of?

[emenel]

  On 8/29/2019 at 10:27 PM, X.bee said:

What's this older P32 you speak of?

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Oh shit! Just realized that I got mixed up with the older p16a I think, which had a much smaller waist but similar silhouette and pocket placement. My mistake!

[beepy]

Yeah p32 looks like a revised p16a. @emenel you still have the L? Need to upsize...

[kes_]

I am so happy to see bags back - but I really want a slightly smaller 3A-7TS backpack. It would be instabuy for me.

[junkie_dolphin]

How have people found the sizing of the P31? I'm 6'1" and wondering if a medium will be too short for me...

[RemarkableArmor]

  On 9/1/2019 at 4:24 AM, junkie_dolphin said:

How have people found the sizing of the P31? I'm 6'1" and wondering if a medium will be too short for me...

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I’m 5’9 and the medium was only just the right length for me. It obviously depends on how much you let them sag but I’m hardly thrusting them up high and i’ll still get the odd glimpse of sock. 

[darksadvial]

Shoutout to the 3A 13TS at St George station in Toronto. Glad to be part of this community online and offline 

 

[wexler]

  On 9/1/2019 at 4:24 AM, junkie_dolphin said:

How have people found the sizing of the P31? I'm 6'1" and wondering if a medium will be too short for me...

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Will most likely be too short. 5’ 10” in a sz M and they end right on the top of my feet.

[eyeheartny]

  On 3/24/2017 at 4:52 AM, Voyager said:

HOW TO LOWER YOUR DUTIES IF YOU LIVE IN THE USA

UPS Brokerage accounting department 866-493-7140
Give them your tracking number and tell them that you have a package due to arrive and it isn't classified as specifically as it should be. And as a result of its vague classification, the duties are set way too high. This is actually true.
They might be able to change the classification right then and there, but sometimes they will tell you that you need to speak to the agent in charge of your package and they will give you the number for that office. If they don't just call the Dallas office. They usually have their shit together there.
UPS Shipping and logistics Dallas office 972-304-6978
If you give them your tracking number they should direct you to an agent in charge of your package. Explain to them your situation. They will probably give you a classification that Acronym specified (6203.33.xxxx) which has a duty rate of 27% which is insanely high. Tell them that the classification is not necessarily incorrect, but it's just not specific enough. Give your agent the following classification numbers:
6201.99.8010 - for Cotton (Stotz)
6201.99.8020 - for Wool (LP - that would be a pleasant surprise)
6201.99.8030 - for synthetics (SS, WS or GT)
This changes your rate to something like 4% and saves you hundreds of dollars.

Once your agent confirms the rate change...
UPS bill pay - 803-502-2525. Call these people and pay your lowered duties.

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Are these codes and approximate duty rates still accurate (post from 2017)? Want to confirm before I order. 

[X.bee]

You can google "chapter 62 hts" and it brings up a pdf with the current codes in use.

[ogre]

  On 9/5/2019 at 5:10 PM, eyeheartny said:

Are these codes and approximate duty rates still accurate (post from 2017)? Want to confirm before I order. 

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Watch out for an additional 15% trade war tariff on made-in-China products, including the J1A-GT. I learned that the hard way with a recent order. I think all other Acronym products are made in Europe though, so it shouldn't be a concern.