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Still mostly same. Inis meain, Ooe Tux, Kapital, red wing

I’ve already responded when asked this question by DM, but to buy an actual 34 waist denim to fit an actual 36 waist is a complete nonsense by my reckoning. While it is possible the waistband could stretch by nearly 2 inches, the rest of the fit does not, and neither will threads, buttonholes etc. Beyond that, the waist of a human can expand nearly two inches more on any given time of day (food, food waste and the digestive process). My 33W are now nearly 35W … my actual waist is (was) 33

Putting on 1000 dollars of heritage workwear today to work from home and shitpost about rick owens.

In other news.. The boy and I have just been down to Unit for some burgers 😋 ..first time i've had a Mexican cola ..man, i'm stuffed!

Just joined the Denime thanks to @beautiful_FrEaK who happen to sell exact my size! Been eyeing Denime for years and happy to finally have a pair. Haven't decided yet if I should do a hot soak or just go for a 30degree wash low cycle. The denim is really nice and looking forward to see how they develop over time. It's Denime 221 with denim from Kurabo Mill

Looks like Neil is wearing the new ones…

looks great @MJF9! so much rizz. there was a long discussion on a thread many moons ago about vest sizing with the consensus that it should be one size smaller than yr shirt size (p2p) since the p2p on a vest is measured lower than on shirts. but i would beg to differ with these types of vest, sorry, sleeveless outing coat! like the og filson hunting vest and the rising sun outdoor vest based on it, i think they look way more sigma sized up. there's an old rising sun catalogue with one of the rugged models dressed in a ridiculously oversized vest (while carrying a lantern inside a fake disused mine) and he slayed the house down heavy leather boots!

This is something I'd love to write a long form article about some day... the idea that Fashion brands are so serious while smaller more classic brands have "fun" or humor built into their collections. From my experience it's the exact opposite. The brands which are very serious about what they do with very little humor involved are the ones which Superdenim cherishes. Where as brands that don't take themselves so seriously when it comes to the brand personality are Fashion brands. Rick Owens is a perfect example of this, where absolutely nothing he does is without a strong sense of humor. It's a ridiculous clothing line run by a guy who finds humor in the most perverse and unexpected places, as he says himself "when the world is on fire the least we can do is laugh at ourselves". I think from a topical level, without any understanding of what the brand is truly about, it's very easy to think that a brand like Rick Owens takes itself so seriously, is all about doom and gloom, etc.. It also doesn't help that Rick is lumped in with dark fashion brands who do take themselves very seriously like MA+, Label Under Construction, Julius, and Viridi-anne.

I also replied via PM. 2 Options: W34 = stretch to fit W36 = shrink to fit Both can work, depends on the personal acceptance of discomfort or fear of a "loose fit"

I've got two pairs of Rick Owens trousers, both bought at attractive discounts locally and neither black! They're great for days I don't want to wear a belt, with a sweat fleece or a leather jacket. I always find pushback against designer brands in spaces like this funny, it's a very thin line that's being walked between brands that are designer and brands that somehow get psychologically excluded from that category... for the record the MIJ Rick stuff is quite nice, especially the leathers but I realised many years ago the sneakers aren't for me.

Larger jeans won't stretch as much in the waist most of the time because they're not getting the pressure to stretch. I really doubt your size 36 will stretch to 96 cm if your waist itself isn't that big unless you try to wear it lower or put a lot of pressure on the waistband otherwise. I've never had a pair stretch to being whole size too big in the waist. That said, my OA's in size 31 are definitely a little more snug in the waist than my FW in size 30. At this point this is after a lot of wear and multiple washes and even drying for both.

Here is a one wash photo measurement of the 51 in size 34. I was told...'Waist area is also shrunk about 1cm after washing by yourself but the waist will stretch after wearing many times' - Seiichiro at Hoosiers Measure your jeans like this and compare. Then probably just end up buying a size 36 and living with the fact that they are tighter after a wash, and a tiny bit looser when worn a while.

I've never been able to buy any clothing from MF because it is all too slim fitting for my build, but I did buy this tote in - I think - 2015 - during a trip to Los Angeles, before I moved here from the UK in 2020. Just dug it out and washed it. Here are some photos. Straight outta the wash and some post-dry details. Slightly obvious as to which side rubbed against my torso during daily use for a few years.

Unfortunately, yesterday I was involved in a hit and run on my moto. They caught the person later on. I'm in ok(ish) nick considering BUT the FC didn't fair the best. Not super crazy, I wish I had the same denim to patch it up. Second day of wear 😂

Freewheelers 1927 type 1 Freewheelers 1937 jeans

Freewheelers x 2 / Ooe / At Last Lot 162 / Viberg / @Duke Mantee not visible

More 0105.

It's cold out there. Wool coat vintage Fullcount 0105w Clarks

I hear a lot of folks giving me reasons why they think i should like RO.. but y'all just need to appreciate that we have our own personal tastes.. those tastes can be complicated, they evolve, i hate things for bizarre reasons, i love things for bizarre reasons, we all do I don't say you should like this music because they don't take themselves too seriously or you should like this food because it's somebody's vision or this film because it was indipendantly produced, there are some things we like, there are some things we don't, we're not all the same.. ..as i've said, some of the RO stuff looks great, some of it doesn't, some folks can make a good outfit look bad, some folks can make a bad outfit look good.. on a public forum, you need to allow people opinions and accept you may not share these opinions and 'reasons why' are not going to change peoples personal tastes.

Better that than putting on $1000 of Rick Owens wares to shitpost about jeans…you’d still be 3/4 naked

I wasn't even trying to 'call you out' or anything, in fact of all the still extant fashion forum/communities I'd consider this one of the few that has enough OG's that there'd be a bit stronger cross-subcultural understanding. Rick Owens is fully independently owned and operated, I don't care how goofy people look in his clothes, when they buy from him they're supporting somebody who is doing it his own way and with his own vision, that's what's dope.

I got the 51s in 33 1.5 years ago when I was still looking for slimmer fits. They fit me fine everywhere except for the hips (waist stretched enough to be fine). So kind of "stress whiskers". The 34 would probably fit me very well everywhere. But since I'm now into more comfortable wider fits I got them in 36. And they fit very well with a belt. No matter, how much research there will always be an element of trial and error.

Lots of old man yells at sky going on in here...

I also replied to this query via DM too.

I also loved this character in Wrestlemania, back-in-the-day!

More old SC-47s

Similar happened to me a few years back in a motorbike accident. I had to have a few good bits chopped me including a barbour international I'd just rewaxed, a valencia st type 2 that was barely worn in, warehouse sweatshirt and a momotaro chambray. I was most upset about the type 2, and shattered collarbone of course. Hope you have a quick and straightforward recovery.

After promising to not buy another pair before the WoM contest starts, my willpower broke. Stopped by SE Austin and grabbed a pair of the exclusive wide 34 cut. These feel like a proper pair of straight legged jeans compared to the XX's. My old XX's feel like a slim-straight cut, and the rise is just a bit too low for my tastes these days. So this 34 cut is much more my speed. The Boncoura denim is still great and has one of my favorite selvedge IDs. Also the 34 cut is a few inches longer, so I can wear these uncuffed or with a small double cuff. Might give them another wash to see if there's any residual shrink. It's kinda crazy to think that I bought the XX's 7 years ago.

It took me a little bit to understand the humor in a lot of Rick Owens' stuff but it's one of the more fun brands where a lot of the designs are intentionally humorous in all sorts of ways. I mean how you can create this sweatshirt and not think it's funny? Coming from my experience where I haven't really change the way I dress in the last 15 years and I still tend to lean more towards the simple very "normal" looking clothes for the most part, it's been really a eye opening experience to learn more about brands outside of the ones I knew well. I've been fortunate enough now to have spent the last 5-6 years going to showrooms for all the self edge brands and it's really interesting to spend days looking and discussing SDA, flat head, samurai, iron heart, etc and then (often times on the same days) go into showrooms with brands like Rick Owens, devoa, rigards, the viridi-anne, motiv, etc. While obviously atheistically they seem like that they have nothing in common, they actually all share very similar viewpoints in how much they pay attention to fabrics, treatment or lack of treatment of the materials, and the really intricate understanding of how something should be constructed. I think of it like two sides of the same coin where you have one side with brands that are more conservative and/or rigid when to comes to deviating from the source material and the love and passion for what they do comes from staying close to the originals and just making their best version of that and then flip over to the other side where you have a group of brands that understand the source material and history but find interest and joy in deviating and pushing designs in different ways. Like with all genres of clothing brands/styles, there are a lot of brands that I think are no good and are actually shit but I think at least for me, I've got this reinvigorated love for this stuff and it's helped me feel less serious and defensive when I see styles that deviate from the norm. While I still love seeing another version of a Type I and straight leg jean in a deep indigo denim, it's a nice balance to then also experience brands that make something a little more out there but still made as well as the stuff I'm used to wearing. Some would say this is the Rick Owens of burgers. (it looks delicious)

I really want to give these a go, but the singular back pocket being located on the right hand side (while historically accurate) would be a difficult adjustment for me to make. I'm left handed and always keep my wallet in my back left pocket. Maybe they can make a lefty version for me.

I put on $4k of Rick to sign on the dole and bitch about Hermes.

I only shitpost about RO from my freezing cold workshop with water leaking through the roof and mould growing up the walls.. keeps it in perspective.

I have never been outside Superdenim, so I have no idea what Superfuture would mean to an outsider. I regularly see Acronym at the top of the homepage, so I always thought it was a forum that catered to high fashion with some denim sprinkled in the cracks. I can safely say that my fashion sense encompasses a relatively large range of styles, one that doesn't really include "triple denim" nor "goth crop." I could say I'm an outsider to many fits in the denim community but I appreciate all of it, though. Just because someone's style wouldn't fit me doesn't mean I don't think it looks good on them.

Fun Fact: Rick Owens is one of the only two large fashion houses in the world still owned by the founders, the other being Comme de Garcons.

For somebody who's supposedly been into raw denim for a while I would have though you'd be familiar with how raw denim doesn't drape naturally until it's been rinsed and/or worn for a bit, neither of which has happened in these photographs. Also, things "looking good" is highly subjective as you know. I've been doing this shit for 21 years now and have seen it all.... for every guy looking like a goon wearing Rick Owens there's a guy wearing a heritage fit that looks equally as bad (to me).

Someone’s Rick Trolling here…

I think there are quite a few labels appreciated here that are designers. Only speaking for myself but I react to the vision and the aesthetic of a designer - not the fact that they are one. I’d even call most denim labels here designers. But in a narrower sense then Tender, de Bonne Facture, Kapital, 45r, Blue Blue Japan are a few that I appreciate, for example. So yea, love me some weird shit - but not all weird shit floats my boat. One of the worst sorts of brand images to me is a sense of deep and unbending seriousness. The industry of high fashion is about as toxic a concentration of egos as one can find in my experience. I’m sure there are other industries that could tie it but not sure any exceed it. It would be funnier if it weren’t so sad.

Last couple for a while I think - Christmas is coming Classic ‘dress’ belt in Sedgwick bridle Wickett & Craig bridle, 2x snake, malachite and tiger eye gems and antique brass hardware

This guy from The Allotment store in Leeds is hilarious! I think he needs to spend a lot less on clothing and a lot more on counseling

WTS P24A-S SS18 xs/raf full pack 6/10 750 F&F+Shipped in USA add for international

Here you go... I didn't have a plan on what to wear the vest with... and after wearing it all weekend, I still don't ... my conclusion is just throw it on and wear it with whatever. I've been to the cinema in it, nearly losing a chocolate bar in one of the ten pockets, gone for kebabs in it and lounged on the sofa watching the footy in it. Multi-functional. I'll also refrain from calling it a vest... I think the 'sleeveless outing coat' is, in fact, a more appropriate description given the style, weight and voluminous fit... at least in the size I got, which is my usual Ooe size The denim and shape are still settling down so it hasn't draped yet... I can see it coming in especially useful when out and about on holidays

For those who may want some insight as to how a brand like Rick Owens ended up at Self Edge, this is a 5 year old article written by Derek Guy about it (featuring @sidneylo https://putthison.com/how-rick-owens-landed-at-self-edge/

A couple of photos of my 1946. The pair on the right have been washed more regularly.

another wash and trip through the dryer. These look more and more like vintage each week.

it's been awhile Brother Bridge Henry horsehide boots; also bought a new pair with different leather, soles and stitching 😁

J Press/Sugar Cane/Red Wing

I'm in a reflective mood today.. In the early to mid 90s i was living in a shithole of a bedsit and barely affording my £28/wk rent.. when it came to buying clothes, my budget wouldn't stretch to new so i just bought vintage.. In the days before the internet, i had no clue as to what i was buying other than the fact they were old Levi's and a quarter of the price of the 501s you could buy on the high street.. A couple of years passed and i started to earn a bit more £££s.. i bought a pair of 555 LVC-47s.. in retrospect, this was probably the first time it occured to me that the vintage Levi's i'd been buying previously could be from different eras (ikr? .. you internet kids don't know you're born) around 2003 i bought another pair of LVC and wanted to get them hemmed.. back then I didn't know what a Union Special was, all i knew was i wanted the hem to be the same as the existing hem.. ie- 'not single stitch' .. i took them to a laundrette who did alterations but they said they couldn't do it.. i would have to find someone with a machine that could chainstitch.. i went down to Ted Williams.. a proper old boys tailor on London Rd who said he could chainstitch but it wouldn't look exactly the same because the hem was done with a chainstitching machine rather than a sewing machine with a chainstitch setting.. plus he didn't think his needles would be strong enough to penetrate the layers of denim.. more confused than ever, i found myself down a gennel and up a rickety fire escape to Terrace Tailors on a Sheffield backstreet.. the room had a massive cross on the wall with candles either side and a polaroid of the tailor himself kissing the hand of Pope John Paul II ..? I explained what i wanted and tape measure around his neck. he took me into another room with a rail full of clothing.. top rail was garments waiting to be altered, bottom rail was altered.. (this is the single most significant part of my entire journey through the denimsphere) he pulled out a pair of SC-47s and showed me the hem.. it blew my tiny mind.. i didn't even know Japanese repros existed.. i almost had to go light one of the candles He said they were from a small menswear shop in Sheff called Brother 2 Brother.. he would hem them (a little longer to allow for shrinkage?) using his sewing machine which could chainstitch.. I knew where B2B was, i'd just never been in, they stocked the likes of Maharishi, D&G, Margaret Howell, Dries Van Noten and such.. (high end streetwear through to mid-range fashion labels) this was well before the 2008 heritage boom so 'menswear' didn't yet equate to costly workwear, shops following the JP retail model didn't exist back then.. Nigel Cabourn was still designing highstreet tat for Debenhams rather than pricey Everest-wear. The guys who worked at B2B were always immaculately dressed (in their shiny shoes) i just wasn't (in my tatty randomly sized vtg Levi's, or skateboard jeans from a previous lifetime . i never went in because my pockets were never deep enough to buy anything, the labels were not my steeze and i felt intimidated by the smartly dressed staff, all of whom were a good 10yrs older than me.. but i was desperate to go nerd out over the Sugarcanes.. Niro (the UK distributor of SC) was established as a clothing store in 1986 but i'm not sure exactly when they became the Sugarcane distributor so maybe these SCs came from Niro or maybe they were bought retail by the B2B buyer on a trip to Japan?.. either of these explanations could account for the eye watering price tags.. my questions were many and looking back.. i think they knew as little about these jeans as i did.. they gave me a 2003 Sugarcane Catalogue (to shut me up) which i've kept.. I think this was the first catalogue Sugarcane ever produced, i've never seen anything predating it. it's on the cusp of the SC product codes after they moved on from M .. it's more substantial, more of a yearbook than the magazine type catalogues which would come thereafter.. in the months following i bought a marked down pair of SC-47s from B2B, returned by a customer because they were too small after washing... the sufu sizedown 3 craze was yet to happen A couple of years later, B2B moved premises to a larger retail space underneath the recently opened West One development (across the road from The Designers Republic) a friend of mine did the electrical work for the shopfit.. he got me the 2006 Sugarcane catalogue, it was in here that i first spotted the LoneWolf Mechanic boots.. the 2010 catalogue which i've posted here previously (MF thread.. years ago) came from Vari. I couldn't afford B2B asking price for Sugarcanes so i found myself on the internet.. Hirofumi Udono at Vari was great to deal with, he spoke perfect English and was willing to ship internationally. He lined me up with Hawaii's, Lonewolf boots, Whitesville & Cushman sweats..ect.. i was wearing SC-47s around the time my kid was born in 2009.. (another reason why I’m so attached to them) i didn't do WAYWT back then.. i didn't have the balls but seen here (blurry candid shot) loading the car up with Woolrich Woolen Mills, chambray Upland shirt from the Daiki Suzuki era I found myself here at sufu around 2006/7.. anyway.. enough of all this reminiscing.. Maynard spotted these while searching for his recently acquired SC-66 and gave me a hola.. ..knowing my pathetic inability to resist.. i didn't .. so In a nostalgic denim haze, i've dug out the rest of my SC-47 collection. ..first 4 pairs are raw denim, last pair are current wearers but previously o/w, check out he different hues ..from left, 1991-1997.. 2003-2007 I took this shot of he o/w pair back in 2013 before chucking them on the pile ..i've just got them back from a hem job at soas so i've recreated it A bit more graff, a few extra MMs on the waistline and the JMC sweat is a little more faded 2003 & 2006 Catalogues can be seen here

Having used the great group of people here as a bountiful resource for many months, I figured it was time to post some photos for the first time and share my two first TCB purchases - the Baker pant and 20's jacket. Starting with the 20s jacket, I'd first to like to thank @istewi and @blooming for the great advice regarding shrinkage and sizing. I ended up going for a size 44 off of primarily the chest measurements (I am around 172cm tall with a 50-51cm chest and weigh about 75kg) which felt like a daunting jump from my usual size but I think it worked out well. I wanted to be able to wear it across as many seasons as possible given the fabric's lighter weight so this size allows me to wear with either a t-shirt or a sweatshirt underneath (I've even managed to fit it under my Barbour). The sleeves need to be cuffed once, as I expected, but the cuff isn't bulky at all and I quite like how it looks. I am concerned it is a little on the longer side regarding overall body length, as it sits around 2.5-3cm below my belt (around 1-1.5inches) so I'd love any feedback on the fit! I love the weight and hairiness of the fabric and also appreciate that Inoue finds it is one of their more accurate repro fabrics to its respective era...can't wait to see how it fades! As the 20's fabric is prone to shrinkage (according the nice people at TCB, whom I ordered from and were also very helpful over instagram via sizing), below are my experiences with movement after a warm wash and 30 minutes in the tumble dryer: PRE-WASH Shoulder width - 49 (-1 from TCB measurements) Chest width - 53.5 ( = TCB measurements) Length - 63.5 (+1 TCB measurements) Sleeve length - 62 (-1 TCB measurements) POST-WASH Shoulder width - 48 Chest width - 52 Length - 62 Sleeve length - 62 Onto the Baker pant - I picked these up as I saw them posted a couple times here as well, and they seemed like a great idea having spent the last year with my legs swathed exclusively in denim. I got them in a size L with a waist size that hovers around 30-31 (although I had not experienced anything quite as high a rise as these yet so I was thankful for the wiggle room the side tabs allowed for). I wanted to wear these with the side adjuster tabs both buttoned as the fabric sticks out otherwise and in case I teeter into the dirty side of bulking -- the measurement guide on Bears was very accurate. They are light and very roomy in the thighs and as I am on the shorter side the taper that TCB has added seems less pronounced when wearing on my body. Lovely texture and immediately soft to wear with what I think is quite a reasonable price tag. Please excuse the Muji house slippers in the photos!

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