Chino pants

[81FXR]

Posting these following a short discussion in the general questions thread.

I was looking for some pleated chinos that were available in these three colours. They’re Spellbound French Trousers. Super nice fabric, softens up really good after a wash. Very high waisted and pretty wide leg but they’re exactly what I was looking for.

Tried to do different outfits to show how versatile they are:

 

 

 

 

Edited August 22, 2025 by 81FXR

[MJF9]

@81FXR nice trousers... were these the ones you were going to tailor? Wise move not touching them. I would always prefer to return and get something else that I do like rather than try alter the pattern.  They look really good. 

[81FXR]

Just now, MJF9 said:

@81FXR nice trousers... were these the ones you were going to tailor? Wise move not touching them. I would always prefer to return and get something else that I do like rather than try alter the pattern.  They look really good. 

Thanks! Yeah these are ones. The size down was way too tight on the waist and I just wanted to very slightly slim some of the billowing top.

I warm washed them and although I didn’t get any shrinkage (a good thing), it softened the fabric enough that they just drape more attractively overall.

[wmb]

The Real McCoys 1941

Edited July 8, 2025 by wmb
Corrected brand name

[Le Clown Bleu]

probably the widest chinos one can find while avoiding Baggy

taiga Takahashi lot 202, very nice

[81FXR]

Back in this thread to see if I can bring my eternal hunt for the perfect (for me) chino to an end.

As above, I thought the Spellbound French trousers were it, but try as I might, I can’t get into the pleats. There’s a time and a place they work brilliantly, but my biggest issue is that they’re supposed to be worn high on the hips and with a tucked shirt. 

With an untucked shirt or even a chore jacket, they push outwards where the pants have the additional fabric in the top. Creating a very weird and unflattering silhouette.

Everything else about them is frustratingly perfect. The fabric is amazing, weight is perfect and the fit is good. If there was a flat front version it would be bang on.

So, with a criteria of - flat front chino, high rise, wide leg, straight or slight taper, decent weight. I find the Buzz 1942 good for the fit but slightly too light weight for what I’m looking for. I’d love a heavy drill cotton or similar so I can wear them in winter.

Ideally available in khaki and olive, even better if navy too.

Ideally no additional details like contrast stitching or printed elements.

 

Edited November 9, 2025 by 81FXR

[ATWM]

I'm not sure if they've got the offering you're after for this season, but personally, when it comes to many non denim items, I've gravitated back towards other makers - in part because jeans are a quite flexible garment but chinos and other things less so - on balance the patterns are still tougher on many western bodies (or mine, at least), and I just don't run into that issue with western makers as often. De Bonne Facture is my favorite for non denim pants over the past few years, I have a few pair of their balloon trousers in different fabrics, mostly corduroy, and love them.

I do think Warehouse's 1082 and Fullcount's...1941 I think are both solid. The Warehouse fabric is more sheen, denser weave, the cut is slimmer with a lower rise. Fullcount on the other hand is a similar weight but a softer feel and registers more in line with their 0105 jeans in terms of cut. Both may be a little on the light side for you I guess, not sure. 

Edited November 9, 2025 by ATWM

[81FXR]

@ATWM Many thanks! Much appreciated.

De Bonne Facture is not a maker I was familiar with but I always foolishly forget to check French brands. Should be no surprise they know how to make this kind of garment I guess. I like the look of their offerings.

I’ve ordered a couple of pairs of the Full Count you mentioned. I probably overstated how heavy I’m looking for so they might well be ideal.

 

[julian-wolf]

@81FXR I’ve been very pleased so far with my Big John Foxfibre chinos, and they seem to fit all of your criteria well

[space_cowboy]

@81FXR Eat Dust might be worth checking out, they have several chino styles. Non-Japanese have you and perhaps a little too 'high fashion' priced, but the few pieces I have from them are all quality. They frequently have deeply discounted sales too so you can get their stuff at a fair price. Stylistically leans more modern, but very versatile. 

[Alec Leamas]

Dare say Timeworn’s military chino might have you covered, but again, could be a hair too light!

Nonetheless, it’s an enjoyable read watching someone on a quest to locate their perfect item!

[81FXR]

Nice! Thanks all. Those Foxfibre trousers look amazing.
 

Seems a bit tricky to get any of the above options in the UK, particularly the Timeworn stuff, is there a retailer here anyone knows of? Or elsewhere in Europe?

Edited November 10, 2025 by 81FXR

[okimoto]

3 minutes ago, 81FXR said:

Nice! Thanks all. Those Foxfibre trousers look amazing.
 

Seems a bit tricky to get any of the above options in the UK, particularly the Timeworn stuff, is there a retailer here anyone knows of? Or elsewhere in Europe?

VMC Showroom and DC4 both carry Timeworn and will take email orders, and Timeworn takes email orders directly as well

[julian-wolf]

50 minutes ago, 81FXR said:

Those Foxfibre trousers look amazing.
 

Seems a bit tricky to get any of the above options in the UK

I ordered direct from Old Joe and the whole process went smoothly

[Alec Leamas]

4 hours ago, 81FXR said:

Seems a bit tricky to get any of the above options in the UK, particularly the Timeworn stuff, is there a retailer here anyone knows of? Or elsewhere in Europe?

No UK retailers unfortunately no - however, as said above, they do take direct e-mail orders, the mil chinos are a core item (in a varying array of fabrics, currently available in the classic beige right hand twill).

Brogue in the US also stock them, which is handy on one count for us as they share a size chart, which is hard to find anywhere else!

Here: https://www.brogueshop.com/blogs/brogue-daily/at-last-co-military-chino

[81FXR]

As a bit of an update, I tried the Full Count options but sadly none quite fitted and I was firmly between sizes.

However I semi-accidentally discovered a really nice option. There’s a brand in the UK called ‘Community Clothing’ which is pioneering all-British made garments and fabrics. Most of the stuff is sort of general wear basics type, I ordered a couple of pairs of the ‘field trousers’ on a whim. 

When they arrived I noticed a label inside for ‘E Tautz’, a 19th century Saville Row name I’d heard of somewhere. After some Googling, it turns out the Tautz field trouser was a popular item in 2015 when the then owner developed a style based on a Tautz archive piece. Apparently this Community Clothing version is a re-release of the same trousers as the owner is the same guy.

They’re a great weight, and incredibly reasonably priced for a UK made garment. I think the fabric and construction is all British. Nice high rise, roomy leg. 

Not the outcome I was expecting but very pleased to have found it. They’re being hemmed at the moment but will post pics when they’re back with me.

Edited November 14, 2025 by 81FXR

[ATWM]

43 minutes ago, 81FXR said:

As a bit of an update, I tried the Full Count options but sadly none quite fitted and I was firmly between sizes.

However I semi-accidentally discovered a really nice option. There’s a brand in the UK called ‘Community Clothing’ which is pioneering all-British made garments and fabrics. Most of the stuff is sort of general wear basics type, I ordered a couple of pairs of the ‘field trousers’ on a whim. 

When they arrived I noticed a label inside for ‘E Tautz’, a 19th century Saville Row name I’d heard of somewhere. After some Googling, it turns out the Tautz field trouser was a popular item in 2015 when the then owner developed a style based on a Tautz archive piece. Apparently this Community Clothing version is a re-release of the same trousers as the owner is the same guy.

They’re a great weight, and incredibly reasonably priced for a UK made garment. I think the fabric and construction is all British. Nice high rise, roomy leg. 

Not the outcome I was expecting but very pleased to have found it. They’re being hemmed at the moment but will post pics when they’re back with me.

Sounds like a good outcome.

FC sizing for me has always been quite inconsistent. For instance, I take their chinos in a 32…the waist is just slightly loose and the pant as a whole is baggy and wide. On the other hand, when I had the super smooth 0105 denim, I had a 29 that fit even more loosely in the top. The normal denim I’ve got is a 30 from them, still a bit loose. Denim stretches more, but these were first wear impressions. 

[MJF9]

@81FXR look forward to the fit pics.  There's a good story and business model with CC. A family friend mentioned it to us some years ago.  My wife got me a black merino scarf from there which is really nice and she has a wash bag, trousers which she put lots of wear into then sold at a healthy price on vinted and some other stuff.  Looks like it's expanded lots since I looked before... I like the jobs they have saved and created in particular

[Alec Leamas]

I too love Community Clothing, Patrick Grant is a legend for what he’s put into the business! 
 

I did not realise he’d also been involved in E Tautz, though I knew he used to run Norton & sons (another Savile Row place) - bringing it back from the brink or somesuchlike.

Looking forward to seeing the trousers!!

[Alec Leamas]

Having had a look at the size chart on the field pants they’re pretty ideal dimensions, great find!

There seems to be tonnes more roomy fitting stuff on there these days, great to see!

[Maynard Friedman]

I’ve bought a few bits and pieces from Community Clothing over the last 4 or 5 years - gloves and numerous pairs of socks for myself, a couple of sweatshirts for my son, a beanie for my brother in law and a lovely merino wool blanket for Mrs F. I don’t like everything they do but their basics are pretty good, I’d definitely recommend trying them out.

[81FXR]

A few quick pics. The fabric is really really nice. Like a duck canvas almost with a super soft, velvety hand. Very impressed.

[Thicolas Rage]

Can anyone point me towards some chinos/trousers that fit like the Buzz Rickson 45/42s that aren’t in a tan variant?  I know they make the William Gibson version in black but more interested in a navy/green/brown. I have the Cushman lot 22686 coming in, just need one more to complete my rotation. 
 

Thanks! 

Edited November 27, 2025 by Thicolas Rage

[Hopethisoneisnttaken]

On 11/27/2025 at 8:34 PM, Thicolas Rage said:

Can anyone point me towards some chinos/trousers that fit like the Buzz Rickson 45/42s that aren’t in a tan variant?  I know they make the William Gibson version in black but more interested in a navy/green/brown. I have the Cushman lot 22686 coming in, just need one more to complete my rotation. 
 

Thanks! 

I think At last co do brown. 

[CSL]

I think I just saw a military green version by Buzz in a recent Zenmarket search. 

Might have been a different model though.

Edit - I just checked. It's their original spec chino.

Edited December 2, 2025 by CSL

[dada mafiosi]

On 8/15/2024 at 1:55 PM, Alec Leamas said:

Picked my 1082's back up from the local seamstress yesterday too (along with the WH/Denime delivery this was a real treat day).

They're great, really comfortable and sitting in that loose but not wide mid-range. Got a bit more inseam left on for now so wearing with a breezy ankle cuff, over time I'm fairly certain that will go.

Anyway, lovely chinos, just what I was after. I can probably now safely turn my Buzz Rickson OG's into shorts!

how many washes usually a pair of chino WH 1082 stays strong before fading ? 30 or 50 or more?  As this model is Sulphur dyed that cannot last very long. Also, Usually the Sulphur dyed garment does not fade evenly

Edited December 21, 2025 by dada mafiosi

[Double 0 Soul]

Don't know if these have been posted but they look like a nice baggy-ass pair of chinos

https://store.toyo-enterprise.co.jp/shopdetail/000000003224/moduct/

https://store.toyo-enterprise.co.jp/shopdetail/000000003223/moduct/

Moduct is an amalgamation of Modification and Product.. basically a Toyo sub-brand taking BR repros and modifying the cut.. like some other Toyo sub-brands they are MiC, at least what i saw on Hinoya was.

[space_cowboy]

On 12/21/2025 at 5:28 AM, Double 0 Soul said:

Don't know if these have been posted but they look like a nice baggy-ass pair of chinos

The label is so good.

[dada mafiosi]

The Real Mccoy sub brand's Joe Mccoy MP19010 model trousers 

Color Beige

Size 36

The model is based on popular 1941 Chino trousers , wide silhouette, though slimmer than the original.

West Point cloth is impressive, thick and sufficient enough to resist wrinkles the whole day without ironing, extremely comfortable and feels cool. Stitching is impressive, the double stitching on outseam and inseam gives feeling of a solid and long lasting construction, inside chain stitching used for most of the construction.   

After first wash, I noticed some shrinkage , around 1-2 cm in waist and 4 cm in inseam.   

waist 94-95 before wash, 92-93 after wash

hem 23.5 before wash, 23 cm after wash

back rise 43cm

Edited January 1 by dada mafiosi

[Josh'N'Roll]

The Blue Seal chinos are my favorites for all the characteristics you list @dada mafiosi. The only gripe I have with them is how flimsily the buttons on the fly are attached. It’s an easy fix to reinforce them with extra thread. 

They stretch back out in the waist with wear, too, if you’re worried about losing that 1-2 cm after washing.