Conners Sewing Factory

[beautiful_FrEaK]

@Double 0 Soul last official price i heard was 66k ¥. Probably included tax. But thats some years ago so I wouldn't be surprised if it has increasing since

[southofnonorth]

On 6/21/2025 at 6:05 AM, yochrisahn said:

how do i go about acquiring a pair of these?

 

If it is the Cushman X CSF you're after (and you happen to be a size 28 or 30) you can get them here: https://untouched-id.com/products/cushman-22501-13-5-oz-ww2-model-japanese-selvedge-denim-jeans?variant=460678725633

 

[Alec Leamas]

A few sizes of the Cushman x CSF here too: https://thesignetstore.com/collections/cushman/products/wwii-jeans-22501xx-indigo

[scooby]

It’s worth noting that the 22501 and 22501XX are different denim and cuts

[indigoeagle]

13 hours ago, scooby said:

It’s worth noting that the 22501 and 22501XX are different denim and cuts

What is the difference?
The 22501XX's denim and cut are normally specified as for example at DC4:
"13.5oz Raw Japanese Selvedge Denim from Conner’s Sewing Factory

• WWII pattern based on original vintage pairs "

At the above link (untouched) they write for the 22501:

• " 13.5 oz sanforized Japanese Selvedge Denim
• Levi's 1940's 501 WWII silhouette: high-rise, wide-leg straight fit
• Once washed, minimal shrinkage to be expected"

Is for the 22501 sanforized denim used?

 

Edited June 28, 2025 by indigoeagle

[scooby]

They’re both WW2 models S501XX - their details are about the same - and both based on real vintage pairs so their cut and shapes are different between

The 22501XX uses Conners WW2 denim and fits fuller through the hips. This denim is dark and has a lot of character

I could be mistaken about this - but I believe the 22501 uses the Miura denim. Either way, the denim is a bit lighter and greyer in color. The fit through the hips is slimmer, flares quite a bit. My pair was tight in the hips and loose in the waist, while my 22501XX fit perfect in the waist and have room in the entire top block

The statement that the denim used on the 22501 is sanforized - I believe that is untrue - maybe someone else can chime in?

Edited June 28, 2025 by scooby

[indigoeagle]

Interesting stuff.

Are both pairs still being offered?
I think, there was a reissue recently of one of the pairs.

[scooby]

1 hour ago, indigoeagle said:

Interesting stuff.

Are both pairs still being offered?
I think, there was a reissue recently of one of the pairs.

I believe the 22501 was reissued once - the 22501XX was pre-order and made for select stockists, deliveted this year (2 years post-pre-order)

Again - someone else might have additional information I am ignorant to

[scooby]

After second wash

This pair will be a nice contrast to my matching jacket

I unfortunately can only wear them a couple days each week - will likely be washing them a lot more

[scooby]

S406XXX M-46

 

 

My M-WW2 jacket is currently out for repair, I’ll get some photos of it up once it’s back

[scooby]

Wash 3 

 

[shredwin_206]

Killer fades as always @scooby

[southofnonorth]

Slow progress on the S407XXX

[scooby]

Pre and post wash

 

I can’t bring myself to holding out on washing anymore - if my wife doesn’t want shoes on our hardwood floor I’ll bet she definitely doesn’t want grease on our couch. 

[shredwin_206]

@scooby so good! 

[Broark]

Found some photos of the 22501xx on the Barnstormer blog: https://ameblo.jp/barnstormer-go/entry-12791149576.html

[scooby]

Not sure how this happened 

[scooby]

Wash and dry really made this small pin sized hole open up

[shredwin_206]

Looking epic @scooby

[Lorcan]

Some shots of my M-35 pullover. These are made by Kaoru same as the M-54 jeans and Type IIs and the Bartack Alls stuff. There was also a different version for Foremost with the proper tin US Army buttons. I don't mind having donut buttons instead, less likely to drop off 😄

denim is pretty hairy (with a few extra dog hairs thrown in)

Think the hem roping is going to be bananas.

[scooby]

Wash

[southofnonorth]

409XXX

[Flash]

Wee update on the ww2 Conners , must be wearing these a good 7-8 years ( mostly weekends ) 

Merry Christmas all 

[silencejoe]

2 hours ago, Flash said:

Wee update on the ww2 Conners , must be wearing these a good 7-8 years ( mostly weekends ) 

Merry Christmas all 

 

MERRY Christmax Flash 🤪

[mousemouse]

On 5/14/2025 at 8:40 AM, scooby said:

Snagged these 22501XX from @srudy last month, and by chance started wearing them on 5/01 day

I love this denim and lucked out on the fit - they fit me as good as anything else ever has

The cut is real good in contrast to the "22501" cut I had some years back - and at a tagged 34 they measure about 31" after a shrink

That's barely 1" larger post shrink than the tagged 28 waist "22501" (a different cut but 6 tagged sizes smaller...)

Not exactly an apples to apples comparison, but a WW2 501 jean under the same umbrella having such a massive disparity in sizing is... interesting! 

Does the 22501xx denim stretch much?

[scooby]

On 1/29/2026 at 11:36 PM, mousemouse said:

Does the 22501xx denim stretch much?

I don't really have a great answer for that question, sorry.

I generally size shrink to fit denim to fit me so it doesn't need to stretch back out much, if at all.

I've put a few years in the jacket and just under a year in the jeans - both sized spot on without any tight spots.

[indigoeagle]

I've recently perused the denimbro thread for CSF again. Great fades to see there and some good laughs, if you haven't read it.
At the time I was back to slimmer fits (having been in slim fit and wide fit preference modes before) and didn't have that much interest in the historic details especially at those prices. I had also taken a bit of a hiatus from board reading and (unbelievably) buying jeans at that time.
In hindsight a pity not to have joined in.
I had also read it sporadically then.
So fun to read it again after many years and luckily it's still mostly online. At least the post of the high time.

A pity that the whole story turned out as it had with extreme restrictions etc.. But one has to really acknowledge that he started it off with the detailed versions of the WWII fits. Before there were WWII models by RMC and Denime among others but I believe no deeper segmentation.
And very cool, that @beautiful_FrEaK was the first to come up with the 1942 model with the crotch rivet and the denim pocket bags. The way I read it, he asked CSF to make such a pair for him. Years before WH came up with theirs for example.
Still some models (20s, 30s) unfortunately were lacking much to especially @Dr_Heech's disappointment.
Sizing was far away from the standard one with many members having to buy two or even three pairs to finally get a well fitting one. I think, mostly three sizes up.
And it seems that for the bigger sizes the yoke got disproportionately high. Not sure, if that is historically correct. Also it didn't look like that on the sizes up to 34. Perhaps that's where it's crucial to have a competent pattern maker as @Duke Mantee has pointed out many times.

So for one person brands with maniac attention to historic details it's mostly Slash, Little Hand, Dad's Jeans, Rebuilt and Denim Bridge. BOT also, but didn't he have to apologize for making stuff that was too close to CSF's offerings, when he had received advice from CSF?
I probably forgot some.
 

[scooby]

Lighter in person 

[reubensangwich]

Cushman 22501XX fit pics. Nice and roomy, these are a good contrast to my Vanishing West and Neat Style jeans which are much slimmer in the top block. Debating on if I should keep them before I decide to hem. 
 

[Double 0 Soul]

I'd keep em!