Boncoura

[indigoeagle]

On 11/7/2019 at 4:15 AM, Smallrod said:

Anyone have measurements for 66’ in a size 34?

Here you go.

I only soaked the legs in luke warm water, the top block had a lot of room, so I hot soaked that.
Washed them once in cold water. 33 would have been snugger, but 34 is not too loose and still comfy.

Measurements (BiG method):
Waist:              90cm (35,5")
Front Rise:      29cm (11,42")
Back Rise:       40,5cm (15,95")
Thigh:              32cm (12,6")
Leg Opening:  20cm (7,9")
Inseam:            78,5cm (30,9")

[indigoeagle]

Some fitpics.

 

[Lazerr]

Anyone planning to get the 10 Year Anniversary Boncura Jeans?

Product Page

Lots of WWII models coming out recently, however the product page describes it as a more modern fit. Price is a bit steep, but the jeans sure are beautiful. 

[kenko]

 

The WWII is too expensive for me, sigh...

Here are some of my 66 photos, my favourite fabrics so far.

[Lazerr]

@kenko Yeah, its quite high. That's a great pair, how did you size your 66? 

[kenko]

@Lazerr

I bought it from Alphashadow 3 years ago, just went with my actual waist size + 10% shrinkage for the initial soak. 

Its a pity that Alphashadow is no longer carrying them or even going out of business 

 

[Jambon]

I was planning on getting the anniversary model until you shared the price 

Really like the 66 and Z model had a couple of pairs of both over the years but they seem to be turning into more a fashion brand of late. Logos and daft pricing,  it has a whiff of private equity to it all.

I used to get all my Boncoura from alpha shadows. Was wearing my fisherman sweater the other week during the cold snap that I bought from them 50% off a couple of years ago. Thickest woolly jumper ever.  

[Lazerr]

The video and the pictures sure add to the intrigue! But the price is a bit high for me. 
Also, the Boncura 66 seems hard to find except for a few shops in Japan. Seems like I’ll have better luck just waiting for my next Japan trip.
Also thanks for the sizing advice, luckily most sites tend to list the One Wash measurements, which makes me believe I can go TTS if I need to. 

[beautiful_FrEaK]

For natural indigo the price is in line with most other Japanese brands. But yeah, Boncoura is certainly priced on the higher side.

[DenimHolic]

How would natural indigo fade differently?

Was thinking to get a pair of the anniversary denim but couldn't figure out how to order overseas...

[Broark]

3 hours ago, Jambon said:

but they seem to be turning into more a fashion brand of late. Logos and daft pricing,  it has a whiff of private equity to it all.

Definitely agree with this, pricing for a lot of their stuff seems to have gotten out of hand which is why I don't really keep up with the brand anymore.

21 minutes ago, DenimHolic said:

How would natural indigo fade differently?

I don't think anyone really knows, since this is an entirely new denim.
Depending on the dying technique natural indigo has a tendency not to fade very much, however these seem to age more quickly than I'd expect.
The fit pics for the webshop online look slightly faded already.

[kenko]

15 hours ago, Broark said:

Definitely agree with this, pricing for a lot of their stuff seems to have gotten out of hand which is why I don't really keep up with the brand anymore.

I don't think anyone really knows, since this is an entirely new denim.
Depending on the dying technique natural indigo has a tendency not to fade very much, however these seem to age more quickly than I'd expect.
The fit pics for the webshop online look slightly faded already.

 

From the photo & video we can tell that this indigo yarn is dyed by rope dye. So the core is white. 

I guess it probably fades like synthetic indigo that is rope dyed?

A lot of  natural indigo denim produced by Japanese are said to be done by " hank dye" which keep the yarn soaking indigo thus the core is not white 

(this is also a myth as I never owned one or saw a cross section photo like above of hank dye yarn)

 

I think Some 45r jeans are using natural indigo in rope dye too, boncoura is cheaper if we compare to 45r

[Jambon]

I’ve spent extra on natural indigo in the past with PBJ AI & Full Count and both times been disappointed with how it fades and ages. Probably my least worn jeans. 
 

Anyhow looks like they have sold out in everything smaller than 32” waist so dilemma is solved. 

Quite fancy a pair of Boncoura cords instead. 

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Never uploaded these pictures here. Boncoura 66 in size 34 I got from the Danish/Dutch shop Perro Official some weeks ago. Their pricing is quite fair compared to what other shops in Europe charge for Japanese jeans.

 

[Bobbo]

Looks like a great 66-fit!

[beautiful_FrEaK]

It's indeed a quite nice cut. A bit more room in the top than Denime 66 or 66XX and Resolute 710.

Took me some years and several pairs of Resolute to try the short inseam these come with

[indigoeagle]

Schott Perfecto • Boncoura.• Alden

 

[beautiful_FrEaK]

More like ecrueagle  looking very good and those Alden are nice!

[AnOldFolkSong]

Boncoura ‘66 9th anniversary sumi ink over indigo

ninja edit: indigo invitational iii entry

Edited November 25, 2021 by AnOldFolkSong

[MJF9]

On 11/11/2021 at 11:46 PM, indigoeagle said:

Schott Perfecto • Boncoura.• Alden

 

Lovely mix of colours... thumbs up emoji!

[MJF9]

@AnOldFolkSong 

13 hours ago, AnOldFolkSong said:

Boncoura ‘66 9th anniversary sumi ink over indigo

Interesting... look like funky faders... will be interested in seeing these down the line

[beautiful_FrEaK]

It was never disclosed which mill weaves the Boncoura denim, right?

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Let's see how much wear I will put into these

[1fookntitefd]

Are there any retailers that will ship Boncoura to the US?

[lyraman]

Salonboncoura.com , Boncoura’s online store will ship to the US, You have to email them.

Edited June 8, 2022 by lyraman
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[AlientoyWorkmachine]

Anyone have an email for Boncoura? Tried contacting them last week through the form on salonboncoura.com and silence. Could just be slow to respond. 

[MJF9]

On 4/21/2022 at 1:54 PM, beautiful_FrEaK said:

Let's see how much wear I will put into these

11 months on... what was the answer bF???

[beautiful_FrEaK]

That they are sold and I wear other jeans

[youngofthesoonest]

I picked up the Boncoura XX jean. Before trying them on I thought they'd be too tapered for my current tastes but after trying it on, I really liked how the cut was done. I ended up sizing up to a 34 to account for more potential shrink of the fabric and expansion of my body. The little details with the buttons all facing the right way, the stitching of the back pockets, the raised belt loops. etc. The fabric felt a little heftier than expected too. I'm excited to see how these turn out. 

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Interesting take on the V-stitch. Haven't seen that on Boncoura before. I have a look at them every now and then. I sold my 66 pair but the XX might have been the better cut for me to begin with.

I only realised recently that the slanted back belt loop and the triangle stitching on the back pockets is a rather blunt "copy" from the Denime XX. This just adds to the rumor that Hayashi-san is not on good terms with the owner of Boncoura. But I don't know what happaned exactly, maybe Ed knows more.