A.P.C.

[highfructosecorn]

I think in general its less common, and therefore more expensive, to see black selvage denim. Just from personal experience, I haven't seen black selvage from anywhere near APC's price point. The quality and weight of the denim still seems good though.

Even if normal (indigo) NCs are made from the exact same denim as NSs (if the cloth starts with a selvage line), the selvage line would be lost because of the cut of the leg makes keeping it unreasonable. Technically it's no longer a selvage jean, even if the original cloth was selvage, since the weft threads don't double back (they've been cut and have to be sewn tight to prevent fraying).

Just as a note, its possible to have quality denim without it necessarily being selvage.

[ReggieKray]

someone who works there alerted me that the Petit Standards are still selvage, just not "red line" selvage. it can still be the same without that identifier.

not every selvage jean has to have that

[highfructosecorn]

Recently i bought 2 Petit Standards, one in Tokyo (blue), and one in Hongkong (black). Look at the diiferent..Should just stick to buying in Tokyo.

Tokyo bought Above,

Hongkong bought Below.

looks like redline selvage to me....

edit: also i wanted to make the point that theres a SLIGHT difference between a jean that is made from selvage denim and a selvage jean. In one case, that nice pretty edge is preserved. Most people find that small little detail aesthetically pleasing and so it's something that is marketed.

[operationjake]

I think in general its less common, and therefore more expensive, to see black selvage denim. Just from personal experience, I haven't seen black selvage from anywhere near APC's price point. The quality and weight of the denim still seems good though.

Even if normal (indigo) NCs are made from the exact same denim as NSs (if the cloth starts with a selvage line), the selvage line would be lost because of the cut of the leg makes keeping it unreasonable. Technically it's no longer a selvage jean, even if the original cloth was selvage, since the weft threads don't double back (they've been cut and have to be sewn tight to prevent fraying).

Just as a note, its possible to have quality denim without it necessarily being selvage.

+rep for truth and logic (as soon as i can rep...).

yeah, the word selvage literally means that the threads' edges have been sewn with the "selvage line" to prevent it from unraveling. so... yeah.

[nikoflame]

nice fit. how much wear do you have on those? mine started out embarrassingly tight and have stretched out considerably (you can see the fit pic i posted a couple pages back). i wouldn't recommend sizing down any more than 2.

did they stretch out much below the knee? it's that area that is bothering me more.

[NakhedCouTure]

curious that the blacks aren't really selvage... you sure the selvage line isn't hidden under the thread?

No, no selvage line hiden under those thread, i just checked it.

I think in general its less common, and therefore more expensive, to see black selvage denim. Just from personal experience, I haven't seen black selvage from anywhere near APC's price point. The quality and weight of the denim still seems good though.

Even if normal (indigo) NCs are made from the exact same denim as NSs (if the cloth starts with a selvage line), the selvage line would be lost because of the cut of the leg makes keeping it unreasonable. Technically it's no longer a selvage jean, even if the original cloth was selvage, since the weft threads don't double back (they've been cut and have to be sewn tight to prevent fraying).

Just as a note, its possible to have quality denim without it necessarily being selvage.

Thanks for the explanation man.

[paulista]

did they stretch out much below the knee? it's that area that is bothering me more.

they stretched below the knee but not nearly as much as the waist. mostly the denim softened and fell more naturally. as you can see in the picture there isn't all that much room down there. these jeans were made for people with foal legs.

[LogIc]

i sized down 1 on my petit..i love the fit alot..but im afraid that they will stretch too much..should i size down one more?

[operationjake]

do you want a skinnier fit? the fit looks great as is and if they're not tight, they shouldn't stretch as much as APC's are infamous for stretching.

but if you're too worried about fit, you can go down one more. what size are they?

[bouwnt]

no need to size down any further. after they stretch, they should fill out the rest of the silhouette nicely. your frame looks larger up top; you don't want the legs to look like toothpicks

[midnight]

I think they look great. As long as they are snug and / or you are wearing them a bit higher than preferred at the moment, they should stretch and fit very well.

[iralex]

those look soo good!

[Jkissi7]

na dont size down your good man ..

[__Nicholas]

just ordered some size 25 new standards.. i sized down 3. hopefully they arent tooo slim. i'll post a fit pic when they arrive. im very excited!

[aan den rijn]

I barely fit into my 29 ACNEs but I fit into my 28 New Cures perfectly. Bizarre. Could always do more meth.

[requiem]

I've fallen in love with this picture and these jeans in particular. I know they are APC i just don't know which model, i saved the picture a while ago when i saw it and can't remember for the life of me who it is in the picture, i've trawled through WAYWT in search of the post but can't find it; i'm hoping maybe someone can identify which model this pair of jeans (on the left) is and any sizing advice to get them like this?! Thanks!

[daniel_xl]

took me 10 seconds and didn't know the guys nor the picture.

http://www.superfuture.com/supertalk/showpost.php?p=1157904&postcount=431

[Pie.cr]

What's the sizing on the petit standards? I'm 29 in dior 19cm mij's and 30 in skulls. Should i go for a 28 in apc?

[poopslush]

I've fallen in love with this picture and these jeans in particular. I know they are APC i just don't know which model, i saved the picture a while ago when i saw it and can't remember for the life of me who it is in the picture, i've trawled through WAYWT in search of the post but can't find it; i'm hoping maybe someone can identify which model this pair of jeans (on the left) is and any sizing advice to get them like this?! Thanks!

fit on those looks like crap...

[paulista]

i sized down 1 on my petit..i love the fit alot..but im afraid that they will stretch too much..should i size down one more?

what's your height/weight? are you sure those are sized down 1? i sized down 2 and they started off like leggings. those look more like true to size, at least...

[LogIc]

my true waist size is a 31 ...im 6'0 160 pounds...so yeh i sized down 1

[midnight]

What's the sizing on the petit standards? I'm 29 in dior 19cm mij's and 30 in skulls. Should i go for a 28 in apc?

I'd say yes.

[requiem]

took me 10 seconds and didn't know the guys nor the picture.

http://www.superfuture.com/supertalk/showpost.php?p=1157904&postcount=431

Thanking you!

[Pie.cr]

Cheers. Just ordered the 28's. Does anyone have the B.I.G. measurements of the thigh of an indigo 28 btw? 10" seems a bit too tight to be real. At least i hope haha.

[combatorange]

hey paulista, how big are the leg openings on your petits? your fit is wonderful and im interested in buying a pair

[paulista]

hey paulista, how big are the leg openings on your petits? your fit is wonderful and im interested in buying a pair

the opening measures 16.5 cm. they may have stretched a little bit as i force my heel through the opening.

[eplsoccer7]

Hipsters a few days over 1 year. Washed at 8 months. Hot soak at 1 year. Still have lots of life left.

[HeatBeast23]

im starting to lose my patience wit these. ive worn the shit outta em and still minimal fades:mad:. Theyve also stretched out a lot near the legs.

[rockon99]

give it another 4 months..........

[HeatBeast23]

haha i wish man...the smell is starting to get to me