Pure Blue Japan

[willrh1]

I'm thinking about picking up the XX-011's pre washed since I've never had PBJs before and can't try them on in person, I figure getting them pre washed is the safer option. That being said, how much waist stretch can I expect to see? Should I go TTS or size down?

[ryanmc553]

Denim noob here, can someone please tell me what the differance would be between ordering a prewashed pair or a raw pair would be in terms of fades..

Im looking heavily into the xx-011's because i want something slim but not too tight in the thighs, with a slight taper. I wear a size 30 waist in N&F Slim Guys and levis 514's, so my instinct would be to order a size 30 off of BiG.. anybody have any info that they think might help?

Edited October 26, 2012 by ryanmc553

[Ghoul]

Denim noob here, can someone please tell me what the differance would be between ordering a prewashed pair or a raw pair would be in terms of fades..

also, what are the sizing differances between the xx-07 and the xx-11?

Essentially nothing, they're unsanforized jeans so you have to soak them before wear anyways, so in the one wash they go ahead and get that step done for you, it helps some people with sizing charts I think

As for the second question, just compare the two sizing charts

[ryanmc553]

Essentially nothing, they're unsanforized jeans so you have to soak them before wear anyways, so in the one wash they go ahead and get that step done for you, it helps some people with sizing charts I think

As for the second question, just compare the two sizing charts

so it would definately be beneficial to go with the one wash then, and save me a step, especially being inexperienced..

also, so if i wear a size 30 in most other jeans and my true waist size is about 31, you would suggest a size 30 pair?? sorry for the questions, just dont really wanna shell out $300 and have to go through the process of returning, etc.

[Geeman]

so it would definately be beneficial to go with the one wash then, and save me a step, especially being inexperienced..

also, so if i wear a size 30 in most other jeans and my true waist size is about 31, you would suggest a size 30 pair?? sorry for the questions, just dont really wanna shell out $300 and have to go through the process of returning, etc.

go measure the actual measurements of your current best fitting jean after a wash or soak then compare to the sizing guide of the pair your thinking of buying. take the thigh measurement into account as much as the waist.

[bd604]

That thigh measurement is hella important... I gained a bit of weight after getting my raws and damn are stairs a pain now.

[movingslow]

one wash 005bk's--- worn for 7 months of daily wear one machine wash

before wash

after machine wash

Edited October 27, 2012 by movingslow

[OkayamaDenim]

The Strike Gold jeans mentioned above that "resemble" the new XX-017 jeans by PBJ, are in fact a series of jeans called the Color Revolution by Tenryo Denim. Tenryo Denim is another denim label owned by the same people behind Strike Gold, the Hamamoto family of Kurashiki, Okayama.

upload pictures

Edited October 28, 2012 by OkayamaDenim

[cander49]

Copied from main Evolution thread...

Just over 10 months (one soak, one wash):

[bestie]

Fucking Willy Wonka jeans up there.

...Do not want.

[narcissus]

It's a little weird, the fabric was originally used by Strike Gold last year.

Here's a sample i was wearing a year ago:

https://twitter.com/...670394619891713

PBJ makes these jeans with class...from the fabrics, stitching and putting it together in their collection. You can't compare PBJ to Tenryo..it's an entirely different league...

Speaking of being 'weird' is how StrikeGold as a brand makes fabrics+stitching+fits right off PBJ's signature both the 24oz denim and the 14.5oz.

Edited October 30, 2012 by narcissus

[Ghoul]

PBJ makes these jeans with class...from the fabrics, stitching and putting it together in their collection. You can't compare PBJ to Tenryo..it's an entirely different league...

Speaking of being 'weird' is how StrikeGold as a brand makes fabrics+stitching+fits right off PBJ's signature both the 24oz denim and the 14.5oz.

It's still the same/a similar fabric....and clearly you can compare the two...

[amnesiac]

PBJ XX-007

Something a little over 2 years, I don't remember how many washes. Color is pretty accurate, a tad dark.

[screw age]

cander49

those are awesome. i've seen how they fit in the waywt thread. are those xx-011's? what size/sizedown?

[kiya]

PBJ makes these jeans with class...from the fabrics, stitching and putting it together in their collection. You can't compare PBJ to Tenryo..it's an entirely different league...

Speaking of being 'weird' is how StrikeGold as a brand makes fabrics+stitching+fits right off PBJ's signature both the 24oz denim and the 14.5oz.

Strike Gold/Tenryo released the 24oz 8 months before PBJ and the weird colored jeans one full year before PBJ, from what i'm told the owners of Klax-On/SG/Tenryo are who developed those new fabrics and then allowed PBJ to use the fabric after the initial SG or Tenryo release.

[malaujai]

Just took some pics of my 011's yesterday. About to hit 2 years in December. They are the only denim I've worn since I got them...

Now I'm thinking 007's or Flathead F310's...

[thedoad]

Any other useless info to share?

[Nigma]

pbj xx-005 13 months, a few washes (2 or 3)

[beautiful_FrEaK]

thedoad might have been a bit harsh..but he got a point...

[brinasawse]

Ladies 1069BL Slim Fit Indigo work in progress

3 months- no wash/no soaks

[DvsForest]

cross post bros

XX-005

-+ 11 months

[prawira]

pbj xx-007

14 months

lots of washes

Edited November 4, 2012 by prawira

[bry01]

Anyone have any experience with the XX-013's? I had the 11"s a while ago but decided to sell because they stretched out in the waist sooo much and they were slim. Do the xx-13 stretch out as much? Are they just as slim as the 011's?

[LckyChrmsBBoy]

Believe they're the same cut. But one's left hand twill. Could be wrong, but check out blueingreen for more info and size measurements.

[Foxy2]

Ladies 1069BL Slim Fit Indigo work in progress

3 months- no wash/no soaks

Nice work - good luck with future evo!

[pass_the_stripe]

I missed the memo but the cut of the xx-011's has changed a whole bunch in the past 2 years? I picked up my first pair from dc4 2 years ago to the month, soaked them, perfect fit... Favorite denim going.

Picked up a pair a few weeks ago, soaked them and I can't get the top 2 buttons done. Not to mention that my balls are getting crushed to death and my ass crack is out in the breeze if I bend over.

I know they do slacken off a bunch but I might be pushing it with these trying to get them looking respectable. (For info, 32 waist TTS and I went with the 31 raw's just like before)

I'll do some side by side pictures for the crazy difference in the colours, I don't even wear mine that hard and they were in rotation, but it's the difference that made me grab another pair when I could.

[Ghoul]

I missed the memo but the cut of the xx-011's has changed a whole bunch in the past 2 years? I picked up my first pair from dc4 2 years ago to the month, soaked them, perfect fit... Favorite denim going.

Picked up a pair a few weeks ago, soaked them and I can't get the top 2 buttons done. Not to mention that my balls are getting crushed to death and my ass crack is out in the breeze if I bend over.

I know they do slacken off a bunch but I might be pushing it with these trying to get them looking respectable. (For info, 32 waist TTS and I went with the 31 raw's just like before)

I'll do some side by side pictures for the crazy difference in the colours, I don't even wear mine that hard and they were in rotation, but it's the difference that made me grab another pair when I could.

Did you not try them on presoak to see how they fit on you? I'm sure you would have noticed the difference if you had.

[pass_the_stripe]

I threw them on for 30 seconds just for reference of the leg length to see how much it was going to come up but that's it. I had plenty of room in the waist pre soak and didn't notice the rise being that different. Once i've loosened them up I'll do a full set of measurements for comparison with the old ones for a side by side compare.

[the hall of vame]

pair of used xx-011 in 30 in my sig if anyone can put them to a good home!

[stukovx]

PBJ XX-007 back from the dead:

Edited November 6, 2012 by stukovx