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Did our annual bicycle camp trip with mini sailor( not so mini anymore) this year was our eight edition. We cycle about 45 km and camp in the Woodson a little campground, we brush our teeth twice if we think about it, change our shorts once and swim in in a local lake. The lake is a sand digs, looks like a Norwegian picture. previous yrs I had to push my boy along the way, not going so fast , this year we flew both ways we agreed to keep doing it even when I ride a scootmobiel

Summer haul from Hoosier. Peace Valley s/s shirt. Blystone. Helmet Laws Suck tee. Hoosier special Great Lakes printed sweat. Grunts shorts, olive sateen. Grunts trousers, black herringbone. Bakersfield trousers. Referring to these as my bougie Carhartts.

SCSC '45 denim - rough and hairy - hopefully no link to the above post there

@Dr_Heech for you I posted a link to the pictures earlier but here is a video.

So this was neither of you lads then???

S406XXX M-46 My M-WW2 jacket is currently out for repair, I’ll get some photos of it up once it’s back

Police? Ah c'mon now. Are we so soft that dissenting opinions of items is that now? I miss the internet of 2005! I'll revert back to my universal approval of everything or keeping quiet so as not to perturb the gentle sensibilities of the board now 😃

Lee Archives Riders 101-Z 1955 James Dean Model

As you don’t ride, to avoid any charges of hypocrisy, you should only wear it whilst driving… without a seatbelt.

Honestly it won't have an impact on if I wear it or not. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

I bet you wish you hadn’t posted that t-shirt now @Broark. After that lambasting from the moral police, you’ll never wear it!

There are some sentiments from the past that I'd just as well stay there. I got into denim because, primarily, I just really like the classic models and how they look after a lot of wear - well, and I met the people weaving the fabric and sewing up the jeans and liked the idea of knowing where my clothes came from. Simple as that, really. Hard to totally untangle fabric from culture, but suffice it to say that I've never much appreciated or taken an interest in many facets of culture where denim played a significant role. My idea of "cool" for whatever it's worth has always been hopelessly lame - a kind person with a benevolent spirit that works to make the world a better place in some way, and does a good job making sure they have good relationships with those that they love and, while being secure in that, really doesn't feel a need to project a certain edgy attitude outwards. Denim was sort of something you could get into appreciating as clothing without having it project much of anything because it's so ubiquitous/ neutral to most. I'm taking the shirt on its own terms - for me it's a message much more obviously than a vintage reference - one that I agree with @julian-wolf on. I sold my motorcycle after I got married, and really haven't missed it though. This is too much thought for a t shirt though! I can dig it in the sense of the graphic and understand those who do. It's just not the sort of thing I'm a fan of - and I could really map that onto almost all forms of macho/biker nostalgia really. Punk though - I'll get down with those irreverent repros - that's closer to the soundtrack of my youth 😃 I bought FW's RB jeans not because of motor psyclone, but because black denim was my first love!

I think it’s tricky. It’s easy to want to evoke a different era and to embrace its aesthetic. In a way, that’s all this forum is really about—so drawing lines around where it is and isn’t appropriate to do so is bound to be a bit of a point of contention. The thing is: kids are impressionable. People in general are impressionable, but kids are really impressionable. There’s not a huge mental gap between seeing someone’s shirt on the street and thinking “messaging aside, that looks cool” and “that looks cool; maybe the message is cool too”. Sadly, we don’t live in a world where it’s universally obvious that not wearing a helmet on a motorcycle is dumb (if you need evidence of that, just look at Wisconsin), so it’s plausible that this sort of messaging really could make a difference. I wouldn’t want there to be any chance that I passed by some kid on the street and ended up being part of the reason that they thought it was a cool idea to hop on a motorcycle without appropriate protection. I don’t think it’s totally cut and dry by any means, and I don’t think I’d fault anyone for feeling differently—it’s just not something I’d feel comfortable wearing, personally.

Clarify for me please, Gents. Regarding the Helmet Laws tee, the objection is to the literal sentiment rather than not pulling off the 70s vibe correctly, yes? It was interesting to see the reactions here. Personally if I saw someone wearing that I'd interpret it as a vintage reference, 70s Biker chic for want of a better term. Then again I do realize that the majority of people would have zero knowledge of that particular 70s biker protest and probably see it as a literal statement.

Helmet laws tee misses the mark big time…might have to find myself one of those Peace Valley shirts though

More recently, I picked up two cotton/linen tee shirts on Yahoo for like $25 + shipping. The fabric’s really great. It twists a ton, which I like, particularly given that they seemed to account for it well during patterning. (Maybe this relates to the unique approach to the shoulder and sleeve seems?) They fit well, but the cut is a little out of my comfort zone, I think, with a very wide neck and too little length keep tucked—so I’ve mostly been using them as active wear for climbing & hiking. For that, they’re perfect. Definitely would recommend to anyone who prefers this style of fit.

My most-worn Django piece so far, by a big margin, has been the other pair of pants that I got from Atelier Gardenia. They bill them as “linen easy pants”, and I think that’s a pretty apt description. Really great mid-weight lofty 100% linen plain weave fabric in a great color, cut with full legs and a very high rise. I’ve been using them as pajamas most evenings. Last photo feat. old Ues big waffle thermal, Birks

I’ve been building up a small collection of Django Atour over the past few months. Thanks again to @Duke Mantee for first bringing them to my attention probably 4ish years ago when I was on the hunt for high quality linen shirts—I never ended up trying any out at the time, but the brand has been pretty consistently on my radar since then The original impetus for finally trying them out, as mentioned a few pages back, was needing to dress up a bit for a family wedding. I got a black linen pants + jacket set, a lofty white linen shirt, and a striped cotton vest. The vest, shirt, and pants were from Masuya1997; the jacket, along with a second pair of pants (more on those below) were from Atelier Gardenia, which I believe is Django Atour’s direct shop, and which doesn’t remove domestic taxes for international orders, but does offer a pretty consistent 10% off code if you subscribe to their newsletter. The jacket, sadly, turned out to be much too small on me. Everything else fits perfect. Go figure. The jacket and pants are beautiful and very versatile, although, given my lifestyle, I doubt I’ll end up wearing the pants often outside of more formal contexts. The shirt is a lot more formal feeling, and also more aggressively old-timey, which is a tough combo in general, although I think it works very well for the specific sort of context for which I got it. The vest is my favorite of the bunch. It’s heavy and sturdy and the fabric has gorgeous detailing and the pattern seems very well considered; I can see myself dressing it down to wear much more regularly than the rest of the more formal outfit. Last photo feat. vintage bolo, Tender Co. socks, MOTO derbies

The kids were doing some 'Escape Room' thing this morning so we had an attic full of teenagers last night.. I was too tired to go to work. Got up and yawned.. then yawned again. Then i Pepsi Challenged some nut butter ..and headed out to the Peaks ..tried to find a route from Padley Gorge through the woods.. ..to Nether Padley ..but it was more of a push and carry over rocks than a rideable trail so i bagged it off and rode up to White Edge ..all the way to the trig point ..nailing it through the Devils Elbow on the way home ..i got barged out of the way by a herd of cows... cows eh? 4hrs later... I stuck the headphones on and walked to Abbeydale road, it's Pakistani mango season.. i nearly hooked up with @MJF9 here once upon a time Tagging is a middle class affair in S11 through the park Feeding the ducks ..along Sharrow Vale Road ..restored garden furniture at Gilberts junk emporium ..kept walking ..past Kenwood Road ..and down to London Road wearing Supreme work shorts, Blue Lug t-shirt and Odd Future Vans. If you were going on Springer in the 90s you'd need a couple of hair pieces "Jerry, Jerry, Jerry" Drooooool! ..and home

RRL western shirt, Hollows belt, Buzz Rickson Original Spec 1930s chinos, John Lofgren Steadfast boots. I seriously love the fit (and everything else) about these chinos, getting a new, sized-up pair turned out to be a great call.

Sunday happenings + observances: Scritch time Next round of starts, with & without Squirrel Guard Little herb garden: no need for a squirrel guard here: the gnome’s got it covered Morning coffee appreciating the sunflowers

I love wearing the temptations and Vegas series of tees. I don’t ride either.

@Double 0 Soul too tired for work.... but went on a bike ride and a long walk eh... 😉

I think this is my picture spot now. Since it's hot, I don't tuck my t-shirts anymore. Gildan, buzz, boa

Ted DeGrazia with Diego Rivera in 1942.

1947, WW2, 1961 RB

Sassafras / Fruit of the Loom / Freewheelers / Warehouse

@Le Clown Bleu they are quite deep and full through the chest so I’d imagine you should be okay. They’re one of the few FW items I feel like I probably could’ve sized down on honestly.

@Broark Peace valley shirt is great got on my self in my haul perfect for this time of year good cut especially for me as I have broad shoulders was on the fence with the grunt shorts or the great valley ones im hoping theres a return of the cord long shore man trousers also does anyone know if the overalls are friendly to some who's 6ft4?

the bakersfield trousers look amazing- was hoping to pick up a pair in the rude black but those flew off the shelves esp in 36

Thanks @indigoeagle, trying to branch out a bit from wearing jeans all the time and the Grunts trousers caught my eye. Nice cut, very wide leg with a nipped waist. But I wish they made the trousers out of the fabric that they used on the shorts, would've been great for summer. The herringbone fabric is pretty heavy but breathable. The Great Lakes sweatshirt is a Hoosier exclusive, it's printed on an Ultima Thule sweatshirt (first sweat I have from that sub-line). And the Peace Valley is called navy by Freewheelers, but it definitely appears to be indigo dyed. 🤷‍♂️

What. A. Crew!

I’m still interested in CSF as a product as it still seems one of the better repros out there (and I missed the boat with it unfortunately) it’s just everything outside the physical product is a drag with CSF. in other Junky Classics and one-man craftsman related news I hadn’t realised some of their JC Penney Pay Day repros are now made that way (but they don’t say who the maker is). https://blog-classics.jugem.jp/?eid=3025#gsc.tab=0

@CSL .. i've just been down to the local opticians to book an eye test and get my prescription lenses put into these Hakusan frames, they were telling me about a company they use called https://www.speccareservices.co.uk/ who can retrofit wired nose cushions to their existing acetate frames, you might be able to find a similar service on your side of the pond.

Yea, for me there's a certain sort of internet marketing that really does this as well. I think I've said before I have a lot of sympathy for the grind that is the one person/small business trying to use social media to generate interest and a living - and the sort of pressures that puts on a business and compromises it may demand (not maybe in denim, but in ethos). But just to needle a bit here - being obsessive about patterns and having an uncompromising view of what a good repro is feels hardly unique in this corner, right? I mean, there are other makers with this sort of ethos, even if they land on something a little different - we've long ago concluded there is no *one true repro* for a given year even. But it's like 1) if this dude only wants people who can buy it in person, well alright. I can't do that. Respect to that demand, if it's got to do with him trying to ensure the fit is such and such or people really love it and will have a higher chance of beating it up, or connect to it more given the onus that is put on them for showing up Or 2) if this is a way to generate internet interest and demand for a limited production item and ultimately charge a premium due to said demand then yea, no interest there either. The forum has a few examples of makers who have gotten a big following for their unique craftsmanship and then seemingly crumbled under their own hype, or started running a business in a way that is pretty askew from the sort of historical association that denim conjures. Admittedly, I do think my level of scrutinization of some things is a degree less - well, and maybe scrutinization of other things a degree higher ha. I can understand the best fitting jacket out of a bunch. The little differences in length or width here or there, on the sleeve or down the back or across the shoulder - it can really make all the difference if you've got a few to compare, but that's usually more a combination of the person + maker rather than either alone. That said, I think I'm still not convinced that the hard to getness of it isn't the main thing. Which is fine. Only going off internet pictures and measurements etc. Perhaps one day I get to handle a pair in person and change my mind, but I doubt it. All of that said, this forum is way better obsessing about details than forums about photography equipment. Those places have almost been enough to make me disown my profession! So many words wasted on so little of what makes great photography - but I'll digress and keep it OT here.

^ I think when I first took notice of them, I was drawn in particular to how strongly their denim puckered and twisted: it seemed super lively, which I love That said, it was never enough to make up for how hard it was to purchase. That always feels like a turn off

I think, this a bit the standard phenomenon as with coffee, red wine, photography equipment, etc.. Like for some people say a Nudie Jeans jacket would be the same as a jacket from Slash Overalls. Which would be totally fine. Depends what people are interested in. Somehow a number of people interested in denim- especially here on the forum, where they tend to arrive- evolve in interest from say Nudie/Edwin to Oni and others to more repro makers like WH, TCB, FWs, etc.. And then of special interest like Roy are the one man/small team jeans artisans like Ooe YFT, CSF, BOT and Slash Overalls- as has been described in various posts here before. But back to your question- when I saw pictures of faded SO denim I got very interested. I started reading his blog then. And he has a very focused and uncompromising philosophy to be as close to the original vintage items as possible with regarding to fabric and also cut. His denim is a bit lighter with 12 and 12.5oz and now the newer one 13.5oz. And he had mentioned the ratios of the rises. So that and the overall aesthetic impression that I get from his products got me interested. But for sure, I have limits to what price I would pay. And also currently it seems nearly impossibe to buy one of his items, if you're not in Japan.

Roy Rogers tutorial on cowboy hat shaping while wearing a pair of jeans.

I’ve ID’d peoples jeans in the wild too many times to count, even going out of my way to say something and the reaction is only either “no one’s ever noticed! thank you!” or a dead stare back, lifeless, monkey banging cymbals I’ve had some real good ones I was very proud of, immediately identifying denim by the fabric or construction alone - only to have a similar response to yours - I don’t know a thing about watches, but I’ve heard it’s the same for watch nerds. You either get a nice conversation out of it, or a dead stare

The current prices of Slash Overalls. From his site: S01XX WWII (LF 44 12.5oz) and 1947 (SO02 (NP02) 12oz): JPY 44,000, 46,200 and JPY 48,400 (might depend on size or customer specifications) S06XX 1946 (LF 44 12.5oz): JPY 61,600 S06XXe 1946 (LF 44 12.5oz): JPY 66,000 S06XX 1946 (SO02 (NP02) 12oz): JPY 67,100 S06XX WWII (NP01 12oz): JPY 63,800 S06XXe WWII (NP01 12oz): JPY 66,000 I couldn't find the prices for today's sale event at Barnstormers Gotemba. For Junky Classics Yokohama next Sunday July 20th the following products and prices are stated: "regular line" S002: Jeans- JPY 44,000 to 50,600 (depending on size) Jacket: JPY 64,900 to 69,300 (depending on size) (Edited after reading again). He also has two fabrics recently developed, LF44B and SL01, that he refers to as XX Grade. These are limited in number. LF44B jeans. size 34 and 36: JPY 77,000 jacket: 42 and 49: JPY 99,000 Apparently the fabric LF44B will be shown at the Junky Classics offering for the first time. And then the SL01 fabric: Rough war period denim with doshaburi vertical fading characteristics As discussed before the special development by Okamoto Texitile. SL01 VINTAGE 2PRONG: jeans (at the moment only jeans): JPY 143,000 The high price is apparently a.o. due to the 2 prong button, which was very difficult to produce. Like at Barnstormers purchases at Junky Classics are limited to one jacket and one pair of pants per person.

wearing the new speed engineer sleeveless coat in TTS 44 its quite large but i feel this is the intended fit and i like it this way

Not often do I see people wearing selvedge denim in the wild - leaving the movies the other day, two people came out, one in a pair of Momotaro's and one in a pair of Iron Heart's. The guy in the Momo's held the door for me and my girlfriend and I hit him with a "nice jeans" and in return he hit me with a confused look. l think I assume everyone wearing nice jeans is into this hobby. He didn't even compliment me on my jeans, wtf!? 🙃

Wind blowing off the hairnet Gildan. Diy. Old and cutoff Pherrows 466. Boa

Papa Nui, carhartt, Fullcount, vans

Washed my Slash jeans yesterday, posting pre and post wash measurements for anyone interested. Plan is to rotate them in with the WoM contest jeans. The most interesting detail I'm noticing post wash is how dense the top of the back pocket openings are, similar to a pair of Roy's jeans but wider. I'm guessing he folds the fabric several times when constructing the back pockets. Also the denim is quite dense and heavy post wash. I'll take some post wash pictures and I'll likely start a dedicated brand thread soon. Unwashed Waist: 38 in. Front rise: 14 in. Back rise: 17.75 in. Thigh: 14.5 in. Knee: 11 in. Hem: 10 in. Inseam: 32 in. Warm soaked for an hour and then a quick trip through the washing machine on cold / gentle cycle. Waist: 36 in. Front rise: 13.25 in. Back rise: Thigh: 14 in. Knee: 10.5 in. Hem: 9.5 in. Inseam: 30 in.

Still 12 months to go

After second wash This pair will be a nice contrast to my matching jacket I unfortunately can only wear them a couple days each week - will likely be washing them a lot more

After the third wash (I think). The usual bike seat fade and mild whiskering from a loose fit. Marbling galore. Waiting for that new shade to creep through, but still sitting on more or less the original rinsed indigo blue.

Commentary etc. can be ignored, but wow at the 30:33min mark

1945 pocket flasher with For over 85 years ticket, so a circa 1957 501XX model. Courtesy of Fake Alpha.. Tried to zoom in a little