Ande Whall Denim

[okisan]

email Ande - he could confirm it all for you

[llvlaglne]

curious to what's so special about the new roll besides the selvage id, weight, and type of indigo.... is it really made specifically for him alone? jw cause i've always read through this thread and i've always been astonished with his products and how they age

[okisan]

i doubt it's made for him specifically, probably just different ageing qualities i guess.

shots below are somewhat more colour accurate than my previous evo post.

[llvlaglne]

how many months?

[theotherchrislewis]

x-post from the AW Contest Thread:

Ande Whall Comeback Special using his regular Okayama 13.5oz Denim

11 months solid wear (3x soaks & 1x machine wash)

Shots are taken pre and post machine wash:

[thegift]

^^^^

Those are impressive.

[okisan]

how many months?

that's about 8.5-9mths i think. pretty much everyday wear, but nothing crazy as i work in an office environment.

[BMH]

damn chris ...contrast for days

[okisan]

my Grizzly just arrived. size small & fits perfect. this thing is seriously awesome. cheers ande

[Cold Summer]

Very nice! I'm thinking about getting one of those eventually.

What do we know about the Special Roll 3? Does it have a very different quality from the normal Japanese denim? If it gets good vertical fades akin to Flat Head or Eternal, I'd be interested.

[Ghoul]

Very nice! I'm thinking about getting one of those eventually.

What do we know about the Special Roll 3? Does it have a very different quality from the normal Japanese denim? If it gets good vertical fades akin to Flat Head or Eternal, I'd be interested.

Curious as well, trying to decide if I want them or a pair of SExIH14 next

[CityPickin']

GREAT jacket. Excellent fit.

[okisan]

for those curious, the denim on the Grizzly is very similar to the stuff used by iron heart on the ih-sh33, which is also a 13ish ounce one wash denim.

[DesmondD]

Just took the plunge and ordered my first ever pair of raw jeans - Ande Whall Mustangs (29x34).

Looking forward to getting acquainted with the ageing/fading process...

[MJF9]

Does anyone have any fade pictures of the 14.1 oz natural indigo jeans that they would like to share?

This is the Wakefield Hotel denim (that I think is the same as the new SR3 denim).

I'm breaking in a pair at the moment but they're quite stubborn and I'm curious and impatient!

Thanks in advance.

[DesmondD]

My Ande Whall Mustangs (29x34) arrived today, so I thought I'd give you all a good look at Ande Whall's package...

Sorry about the quality of the photos - all taken on iPhone4S.

This is my first ever pair of raws and I really appreciated being able to check out fit pics, sizing advice, etc. on the forums when I was hunting around for a pair, so I thought I'd return the favour for anyone interested.

General impressions first up:

• Ande Whall = Boss! Great guy to deal with - super speedy replies to emails and very helpful and informative when it comes to sizing. I sent him a list of sizings on my favourite pair of jeans and he recommended a 29 in the Mustangs (I was leaning toward a 30).
  
• I ordered during a quiet patch for Ande - placed the order on Sat the 17th, Ande completed and shipped the jeans on Tues the 20th and they arrived in Western Australia on Fri 23rd. Not a bad turnaround for a pair of made-to-order pants...
  

And impressions of the jeans:

• Look to be really well constructed - great details which can be seen on Ande's website.
  
• It's my first try at raw denim and dang! - they feel just about like cardboard when they come out of the packaging. Not sure if this is a sign of quality raw, but there ya go.
  
• Colour is a really nice dark indigo - the colour is really similar to the pics on Ande's site, so that's a good reference.
  
• Nice thick leather patch
  
• Loving the gold/orange stitching - again colour on the site is spot on.
  

Hoping these photos work:

Definitely hand-made. Adds so much character.

Notes on the fit to come...

[DesmondD]

And perhaps most importantly, the fit:

• I sent Ande the following measurements from a pair of Levis 511 (31x32) - a year and a half old or so haven't been washed in a while, so they fit pretty nicely (with just a bit of extra room in the waist perhaps):
  
  • Waist: 31
    
  • Front rise: 9.25
    
  • Back rise: 13.5
    
  • Top Thigh: 10.5
    
  • Mid Thigh: 8.5
    
  • Knee: 7
    
  • Leg Opening: 7
    
  • Inseam: 30.5
    

The 511s:

• Based on that, I copped Mustangs in a size 29x34 (Ande helped with the decision). I wanted a bit extra in the inseam and a tad less in the waist.
  
• Pre-soak fitting notes:
  
  • Rise: Noticeably higher than the 511s. Feels a little foreign to me, but I've been wearing lower rise jeans for a while now. Looks at bit strange to me as well, but I'm sure I'll get used to it.
    
  • Thighs:These are pretty tight at the moment, particularly around the thighs - noticeably tighter than the 511s. Hoping for a bit of stretch after the initial soak as I wear them in.
    
  • Waist:No problems there - buttoned up pretty easily (again on the tight side, though) I think they'll stretch to a pretty comfortable size.
    
  • Lower leg: Digging the cut through the lower leg - fairly slim, without being super skinny.
    

Ande Whall Mustangs: 29x34.

Well there you have it - a Whall of photos for anyone interested in getting some.

[DesmondD]

And now a question for all the people out there who know more than me:

What's the fit like? Should I have copped the Mustangs one size up? Will they stretch and fit me well (particularly in the thighs) - the front on pic makes my legs look like a funnel.

I plan on doing a warm soak and then wearing the hell out of them - so some advice would be much appreciated before I commit to the soak.

For the record, I'm 5'11 and 67kg (148 pounds) with a reasonably slim build - I run quite a bit, hence the large thighs.

Thanks all.

[Maynard Friedman]

I think you need the same waist size but a roomier cut.

[okisan]

soak them & wear them. this denim stretches pretty easy so they'll get looser where needed.

[cheapmuthafukr]

just wanted to pop in and say

ANDE IS THE MOTHERFUCKING MAN!

that is all.

[cheapmuthafukr]

and to those who dont speak english as a first language, im not saying he fucks mothers... tho im sure they throw it his way all the time, because he is the man.

[cheapmuthafukr]

also, i still feel that he should do a lee rider repro and call it the ralph.

if you dont know why, google lee ralph... skateboard legend from NZ

[andewhall]

Just e-mailed you back DesmondD....had internet prob's this morning, all sorted now. I think thats the perfect size, they will loosen up in a couple of weeks.

[andewhall]

Nice one cheap, was Lee Ralph from NZ? either I forgot or didn't know, definitely remember his name.

[DesmondD]

Thanks guys - decided to soak and wear and I'll put some pics up once they start to stretch out a bit.

[cheapmuthafukr]

he was and is from nz... story i heard is he told the skate industry to fuck off and went back to nz back in the early 0s

[markr04]

Just ordered the Caribou/Regular fit after researching in this thread. I normally buy slim fits, but Mustang/Slim fit pics in this thread convinced me to go Regular. It seems his fits run on the slim side as it is.

IIRC, I was ready to buy a pair of Ande Whall jeans a year or two ago, but something awful (tsunami? earthquake?) happened to his business and he was out of commission for a while. Either way, I'm glad I found him again.

[ontheroad]

Just ordered the Caribou/Regular fit after researching in this thread. I normally buy slim fits, but Mustang/Slim fit pics in this thread convinced me to go Regular. It seems his fits run on the slim side as it is.

Can anyone else attest to this? I've been pondering the same thought.

[cheapmuthafukr]

doesnt he have measurements up... i know when i had a couple pairs back in the hand printed thumb days they measured exactly what they were tagged. measure some jeans you like the fit of and compare.