Samurai Jeans

[Jord666]

If my current slimmest denims are measuring 11.5 and are Completley hugging my leg will these be too tight after a soak? I'm wondering weathe to size down on a pair of s5000vx instead?

What you guys recommend?

[Max Power]

I don't know why everybodys so obsessed with sizing down. buy the size you need and the cut that suits you. If your thighs are too muscular for skinny fits, go for a straight cut. I think the 0500 tts could be a good cut inbetween too slim and too loose.

[birgitte]

If my current slimmest denims are measuring 11.5 and are Completley hugging my leg will these be too tight after a soak? I'm wondering weathe to size down on a pair of s5000vx instead?

What you guys recommend?

Based on my experience with just this one pair I would say yes, the 710s will be too tight after soaking.

[hong]

Anybody have experience with move clothing through rakuten?

[Jord666]

Cheers Guys! I spoke to the Guys at BiG and decided to go for the S5000VX in 21oz, I have wanted this cut for a while also and decided it would be my best option, I web for a size 29 (31.75" waist) and plan on hot soaking them to get the full 2" shrinkage out of them and hope they stretch back out 1", fingers crossed

[swiss-jeansfreak]

Congrats Max for your second place on the last Hall of Fade contest with your great Sammies!!!!

You're a truly great and fast honey comb builder and master with strong 3-D honeycombs and everything just at the right place

http://halloffade.com/dry-vs-dry-2012-self-edge-winner/

[Mild7]

Thanks Mate. Well yes, the Iron heart Denim feels softer and a bit more breathable, and, in fact, appears to be a tiny bit heavier (could be wrong though). The Samurai Denim needs time to soften up. Both are pretty equal in weft, as often seen heavier denim is less slubby. So, compared to the 19 oz 710 denim, the 21oz VX denim is way more regular. it also appears a bit lighter than usual

Thanks Max, good info.

Regarding S5000VX, i went tts tag size 34, same as my Eternals, Iron Hearts, Flat Heads, etc and they have turned out perhaps a 1/4" too big, but i like it like that. Possibly my most comfortable 'go to' pair of jeans now.

Edit: My S5000VX are 17oz. Cant comment on 21oz sorry.

Edited September 4, 2012 by Mild7

[midnite9]

Anyone working on S0505XXII?

[Max Power]

Congrats Max for your second place on the last Hall of Fade contest with your great Sammies!!!!

You're a truly great and fast honey comb builder and master with strong 3-D honeycombs and everything just at the right place

http://halloffade.co...lf-edge-winner/

Tahnks Ruedi! I wouldn't have noticed without you!

[Foxy2]

S0610LX is getting released in 17oz denim...looking interesting:

http://www.samurai-j.com/lineup/jeans/s610lx17oz/index.html

How low is the front for this cut in reality - it reads like it is even lower than the previous Wrangler/Jin model (S0210XJ) - anybody out there with 1st hand experience?

Edited September 5, 2012 by Foxy2

[S-Town]

9.25" rise on a 34...youch!!! They look really nice though.

[Cold Summer]

I saw that on 2ND a week or two ago, everything about it looks great *except* for the low rise.

[BrownMetallic]

S0610LX is getting released in 17oz denim...looking interesting:

http://www.samurai-j...17oz/index.html

How low is the front for this cut in reality - it reads like it is even lower than the previous Wrangler/Jin model (S0210XJ) - anybody out there with 1st hand experience?

it's a unisex cut__ Samurai's slimmest

comparable to the Yamato 003jp

[Foxy2]

If it is supposed to be a unisex cut things would make a bit more sense.

Otherwise, the front rise would be way too low to have any appeal...

Still, I wonder if I actually could rock such a low front rise in real life?

[saintkeat]

I prefer low rises since I rock a slim fit. It really helps with high stepping and agility when moving about. Less chances of crotch rips as well (Just don't look at my pair as an example).

Congrats Flo! Thanks for participating!

[Max Power]

Thank you! And also congrats to Ruedis second place in tuckshops selection!

Regarding the low rise - it's the first measurement I look at, as it decides wether I will buy a pair of jeans or not. Maybe its because I'm rather tall, but I can't stand rises below 11" / 15", it just feels uncomfortabl when walking and sitting. My FC 1653 is not wearable for me because of that.

I always wonder where that trend came from, if it's a relict of 70s bellbotttoms that sat on the hips or of girls jeans that were bought by men to get a slim cut. Anyway, I'd love to see more silhouettes like the 710, that feautre a normal rise and slimmmed down legs.

Edited September 7, 2012 by Max Power

[Foxy2]

Agree - but I have to point out that S0210XJ with around 10" works just fine with me.

The fact that they state 9" for S0610.. Made me wonder. I guess I will give them a try when I'm at BIG next time if just out of curiosity.

The only reason I looked into this is the fact that the first pics of the new 17oz denim looked so intriguing...

[BrownMetallic]

so does my 110XJs. i've tried various cuts through the years__ 10 is about the lowest i'd go for slims, 12 for repros/near repros [don't have the approriate body structure for 13 & up], but around 11 is the best for me.

i toyed around lowrise fits before. the Diesels, G-Stars, etc in the distant past__ tried Somets ... even copped BiG's sample cut of SD 105 lowrise with a 9" postsoak. aesthetically, lowrise look more sleek & smart & updated [even drapes well on my body frame, w/c long & on the more lean-side]. if i'm just gonna ramp it up or be on my toes like a mannequin the entire time i'm in them, that's swell.

... but, i decided i don't need to cover that end of the denim jeans spectrum ... i'm going to leave that to the younger folks.

Edited September 7, 2012 by BrownMetallic

[Maynard Friedman]

Are you talking raw or post-wash measurements there BM?

[Foxy2]

Just checked with Take5 and they claim that the front rise for previous S0610 models is more likely in the area of 11" (raw, pre-soak/wash) for a W32.

[BrownMetallic]

dunno about the accuracy on that. i tried the 2008 prodn on when they 1st came out @BiG & [iirc] the 32s had under 10" rise already, raw. hence, i took the Yamato 001jp instead.

Are you talking raw or post-wash measurements there BM?

post soak/wash.

edit:

if you were asking about the SD105, in particular, BiG had a 1-of-a-kind [prototype] lowrise 105 w/c i bought, but coudnt stand the 9" rise, so i sold em & got the regular prodn 105s with a 10" post-wash rise.

Edited September 8, 2012 by BrownMetallic

[hong]

I'm 5'6, thinking about hemming and tapering my s710xx's. Has anyone just left the long inseam and worn the denim? Pics? Not sure if hemming and tapering is necessary that's why...

Edited September 10, 2012 by hong

[w11114m]

S710VX Quick update

[Max Power]

nice one. Most intense leg twist I've seen on 710s or Samurais at all.

[superego]

Bah, looks like the 710 black shadows are sold out in my size (35/36) at BiG and doesn't look like they'll be more stock until early next year.

Anyone know of any other route for procuring new 710 black shadows in my size?

[Ghoul]

Bah, looks like the 710 black shadows are sold out in my size (35/36) at BiG and doesn't look like they'll be more stock until early next year.

Anyone know of any other route for procuring new 710 black shadows in my size?

Pretty sure BiG is the only place that got them(I think it was a collab). Your best bet would be to check the supermarket for someone selling a pair.

[bregalee]

Question for those who own flathead 310s and samurai 710s.

Currently, I am wearing size 32 310s(1.5 yrs worn); the space on the thighs aren't skin tight,

but I can pinch the fabric about the size of a thumb from the side.

If I were to purchase a pair of 710s with more space but still slim on the thighs than my 310s,

Should I also get a size 32 in them? Considering looking and comparing the size charts

for the 310s(SE) and 710s(BiG), it seems like it would work out.

[w11114m]

Thanks Max and others for the reps.

[saintkeat]

S003JP-A. Start of the 10th Month.

[Planetarium]

wow. I'm not sold on the paper weave due to all of the crotch rips you've had, but it definitely develops a beautiful look.