Full Count Denim Thread

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Gordon should have used the original contest denim for some 1108 and not the 1653 which he had to discount to get rid off them

[Planetarium]

I think the difficulty in selling out is due to wider cuts being less popular in America, especially in smaller waist sizes. As someone with a 28" waist, cuts that are wider than my beloved Okinawas/Hawaiis don't look particularly good on me unless cuffed highly and combined with a very specific outfit.

Additionally, BiG has a large selection of wider cuts at the moment which is certainly not a bad thing, but it will be a slow process to move them all in this market. Drapey/looser looks are coming back in vogue, but mostly in the world of non-formal suiting a la Yohji and knitwear a la Stephan Schneider. Most people into "fashion" are still wearing prewashed denim that is slim to tight and we must remember that we represent a minority, even in Japan where many of our favorite clothes are being manufactured.

Now despite all that, I have observed that vintage/baggier looks are becoming a more common sight on this forum which I attribute to the hype around raw denim dying down, removing some of the demand for modern cuts, and a shift in tastes towards more understated brands such as Full Count, Yofukuten, and Warehouse as well as the "retroexperimentalism" of brands like Mister Freedom and Kapital. The recent Indonesian influence is partially responsible as well.

Edit: Unrelated to my above point, I will note that I am set on Full Count being my next pair of lighter weight (for me) denim. Though I won't justify a purchase now because they simply won't get worn, if a Full Count contest were to surface I would almost certainly be in. Using a relatively hype-free band such as Full Count and a smaller pool of dedicated participants would hopefully result in a similar atmosphere to the RoyxCone contest, still the best example of camaraderie and friendly competition I've seen on this forum.

Edited November 29, 2012 by Planetarium

[akka225]

i've been looking for a light weight pair for months now (have encountered prospects but nothing that lasted) and am looking now either to sugar cane or fullcount..what sticks out as the key differences between the two for those who have owned both?

[aho]

^sugarcane, another underrated brand imo....i think of sugarcane more of a workhorse daily beater jean (strong and durable) and full count more on the luxury/fashionable side (which isn't to say they aren't strong/durable or couldn't be used as a workhorse beater)...for a lightweight pair of SC's, i'd say the type 2 1947 (aka 2009) is good. 1108 or 1101 depending on what cut you like for fc.

key differences? aside from aesthetic, the fabric itself...zimbabwe cotton is esp. distinct in it's feel, comfort and texture. thats where the "luxury" comes in. for sc, they feel more like jeans as jeans should be, no frills and tough workwear.

[anklspr]

I agree with Aho... Both brands excel at the more subtle points of quality.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

^nice write-ups aho and Planetarium

Fit update on my 1108XX. Lighting isn't that good and my battery died after this one pictures...whatever

[demonator]

whats the rise on those bf? PLEASE?

[Planetarium]

Fit's bloody perfect, bF. Now I'm truly itching to purchase, but must hold strong until at least the end of spring.

(Just after typing that, I have found that And Japan is doing free shipping to the US. Arrrgh!)

You're also making me covet a pair of Boondockers harder than I was earlier this week...

[Mixture]

whats the rise on those bf? PLEASE?

dude go back a page and stop shitting up the thread.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Yeah, AND-Japan is a great shop to get some Fullcounts.

And good eye, yeah after I finally dubbed my Boondockers, I like them more

[anklspr]

Does AND-Japan offer hemming service? I seem to remember wanting to order something from them, but not doing so because they couldn't hem...

[beautiful_FrEaK]

no they can't

http://www.and-japan.com/chain.html

edit: Fullcount 13,7oz fades taken from AND-Japan's blog

Edited December 4, 2012 by beautiful_FrEaK

[Maynard Friedman]

And good eye, yeah after I finally dubbed my Boondockers, I like them more

What have you dubbed them into bF, German?!

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Yip..finally I understand that squeaking noize

[demonator]

dude go back a page and stop shitting up the thread.

you fucker im asking again because after a couple of wears the measurements will settle not asking you son of a bitch .

[Quoise1203]

Take it down a notch

[Mixture]

you fucker im asking again because after a couple of wears the measurements will settle not asking you son of a bitch .

Uhhh hello?? He clearly posted measurements after he wore it for 5-6 weeks in the previous page. You would know by now if you actually read anything in this thread. I hope you're trolling bc you look like an idiot asking these ridiculous questions you already know the answer too. I'm done, if you want to respond feel free to pm me since I don't want to clutter this thread with your bs.

Edited December 5, 2012 by Mixture

[anklspr]

no they can't

http://www.and-japan.com/chain.html

It's too bad for us shorter guys. It's nice to be able to contact a store that can respond in English (since I can't speak Japanese ), and feel like they really understood what I've asked them. I would've definitely ordered from them since, at the time, BiG was out of my size. It's nice to know that they're there though in case I need them!

[aho]

^fwiw, so long as the manufacturer has local inventory, big should be able to "special order" whatever you want...in my experience (your mileage may vary) prices are always fair and not far off from jpn retail after conversion including shipping. turn around time is also well, even with hemming, and in a recent example I saved at least $80+ by not going through a proxy...

edit: and-japan is cool though, haven't tried them personally or calculated potential savings...just plugging my man gordon because i love big!

Edited December 5, 2012 by aho

[mr.invincible]

Take it down a notch

how the fuck can you tell ed to take down a notch, du

its like telling crazy larry to not be crazy.

[Max Power]

A contest? Hmm...the 1109 would be my weapon. Sounds not too bad to me.

[demonator]

yeah you tell him mr invincible! this is sufu all threads are already messed up when they let YOU in here

[Flash]

Killing time before work

Some pic's of my 1108's

And with the 1109's

[apba1166]

I have a pair of 1653LTD, mint...while they measure at waist and thigh like they should fit fine (even measure "looser" than some other jeans), they are a bitch to get into and wear, and this is before any water! Can't figure that out....is it because of a low rear rise? I want them to work but something is telling me to bail and sell them while mint....advice?

[beautiful_FrEaK]

posting some pre-soak fit pics might help us to advise you

[kenzie]

fit of my 1653LTD

edit: slightly better picture...

Edited December 5, 2012 by kenzie

[SLAB]

try to cuff those

[kenzie]

I've been thinking about getting them hemmed, actually. I'll probably wear them cuffed until I go to visit my sister in NYC in the spring and get them hemmed at BiG while I'm there.

[OkayamaDenim]

Had to share this amazing photo that the staff from Fullcount sent us over! It is Mikiharu Tsujita, Head designer and owner of Fullcount Co., laying in a makeshift bed of denim from a recent photoshoot.

pic upload

[movingslow]

sometimes you come home from a shit ass day and you find a little package from and-japan

1108xx

The denim feels incredible. I couldnt be happier with the jeans and with the service from and-japan. Got them much quicker than I thought I would. Ill be posting pre soak pics and fit pics tonight or tomorrow.