Vintage Sweatshirts

[indigoeagle]

1 hour ago, illumin8em said:

Can anyone recommend who's making the shortest body/cropped sweatshirts at the moment? It seems like every brand has added a few inches to the body length the last few years and that is the opposite direction that I was hoping for. Great for all the long torso/short leg folks I guess but what about us short torso long leggers? The old Buzz were great, I've heard the Warehouse 401 was ace but it seems they've also joined the trend and gotten longer. No use bringing up Atlast &Co since I'm more likely to capture the extinct Tasmanian Tiger than figure out how to buy anything from them. Maybe I should be looking at women's sweatshirts

I also have a McCoy sweat shirt, I think Ball Park, that after a normal wash at 30C with no dryer, shrunk quite a bit in the body. For me that is the vintage fit now.
Before it was about 4cm, 1.5 inches longer. The lower edge of the sweatshirt is now basically touching the waist of my, medium or so rise, jeans.
I think, it's even a XL.

But this one is also six years old or so. Perhaps they also changed the fit.

[shredwin_206]

@illumin8em what length are you aiming for?

[Maynard Friedman]

Deluxeware sweatshirts are quite boxy.

[goodrain]

On 10/18/2015 at 3:11 PM, pudaspriest said:

Picked up a deluxeware sweat from rakuten. Very nice, not as soft feeling as my strike gold one but I like cut a lot better. I have been wearing it for 3 days in a row, really like it so far. 

 

 

 

Never thought they were boxy

[cultpop 0217]

 

Another vintage short sleeved raglan sweat perfect for the warm spring day. Love the leopard.  

 

 

[goodrain]

Newly released 3sixteen french terry sweatpants. Best sweatpants in the game IMO. If I am wrong, which one of yall is gonna correct me?

[JDelage]

The 3Sixteen sweat pants are my favorite too. I love the fact they have 2 back pockets. The indigo ones are particularly sweet. The sweatshirt is nice too but its neck opening is too wide IMHO.

[Mr Black]

This randomly popped up on my Facebook feed.

 

Einstein wore sweatshirts that grew rattier over the years, because wool sweaters made him itch. When his wife, Elsa, “urged him repeatedly to dress up for important company,” wrote one historian, “Einstein quipped that if the important visitors were coming to see him, they’d see him as he was; but if they were coming to see his clothes, Elsa would show them to his wardrobe.”

[Duke Mantee]

[Mr Black]

Does anyone own a Full Count 3741 sweatshirt?

 

If so, how much did it shrink after the first wash.

 

Ta.

[Talan]

On 9/20/2022 at 11:20 PM, Mr Black said:

This randomly popped up on my Facebook feed.

 

Einstein wore sweatshirts that grew rattier over the years, because wool sweaters made him itch. When his wife, Elsa, “urged him repeatedly to dress up for important company,” wrote one historian, “Einstein quipped that if the important visitors were coming to see him, they’d see him as he was; but if they were coming to see his clothes, Elsa would show them to his wardrobe.”

I like Le Corbusier's style. 

[indigoeagle]

Is anyone familiar with Patchii sweatshirts?
Loop wheeled and made in Japan (Wakayama).
The inside is not loopback/terry, not brushed.

Quite a good deal, I find. I got a charcoal one in XL- fits like a smaller XL.
Just wanting to share this.

https://www.moderntimes-co.net/item/m5456/

https://toulouse.jp/products/patchii-吊り編みスウェット-丸胴ラグランスリーブクルーネック-チャコール-1?variant=41065492447369

https://plusc.theshop.jp/items/14599702

[Double 0 Soul]

I've been chatting about cropped sleeve sweatshirts with indigoeagle this week and thought some of y'all might be interested..

This is a FC sweat which flash bought in Tokyo then subsequently gave to me..i've beat the crap out of it, last week i snagged it at work which has torn a hole in the arm

The material wants to roll/curl, like it's under tension, this will probably be compounded by washing

It does have side seams, looking at the loops on the back, i assume circular knitting machine and they've cut the tube.. but where the grain/texture of my JMC sweat (which isn't loopwheeled either) runs horizontal, as you can see, the thread structure here^ is linear. I assume it's the cutting of these vertical threads which is causing the roll?.. If i cut through the rest of the sleeve who knows where the rolling will stop

IE compared it to this Jelado amongst others..

Beyond our musings.. anyone want to offer any knowledge as to why some sweatshirt material rolls while others doesn't?

Edited April 26, 2023 by Double 0 Soul

[mondo]

^ I have a Toys McCoy McQueen sweat with out-off sleeves (yes, bit of a wank, but it's been great as a general-use top.. didn't pay anywhere near retail, but mrs mondo would no doubt be aghast at the prospect of anyone seeking out a "blurple" top with ragged sleeves).. anyway, it has a fleecier backing, but the the edges have rolled to half-pipe status and no further, regardless of trips through washer and dryer (and there have been many).. I've become a fan of the three-quarter sleeve – no cuffs to get in the way or become frayed, easy to push up if required. Annoying under a jacket, but I've got other sweats for that. If that FC sweat were mine, I'd chop the cuffs off, why not, I'd be surprised if it just kept on rolling.. but if you ended up with a vest with inner tubes on the shoulders that might be kind of cool..

[Double 0 Soul]

The FC wasn't the article in question @mondo ... it's still cold enough to wear it under a denim jacket, so the hole isn't an issue.

The rolling FC was just a word of caution, IE was considering buying a new sweat and cropping the sleeves.. lot's of examples of crop sleeve sweatshirts which don't roll and some crop sleeve sweatshirts which have been cropped then cuffed.. are the cuffed versions made from a fabric which has a propensity to roll and the cuff is there to stop it happening? .. who knows? potentially you could buy a sweatshirt, crop the sleeves and end up with 2 giant polo's at the top of your arms.

[mondo]

1 hour ago, Double 0 Soul said:

The FC wasn't the article in question @mondo ... it's still cold enough to wear it under a denim jacket, so the hole isn't an issue.

The rolling FC was just a word of caution, IE was considering buying a new sweat and cropping the sleeves.. lot's of examples of crop sleeve sweatshirts which don't roll and some crop sleeve sweatshirts which have been cropped then cuffed.. are the cuffed versions made from a fabric which has a propensity to roll and the cuff is there to stop it happening? .. who knows? potentially you could buy a sweatshirt, crop the sleeves and end up with 2 giant polo's at the top of your arms.

I have no answers.. has anybody seen a cut-off that has rolled 360º or more..? The McCoys I have can be purchased (same price) with or without the cuffs – perhaps they reserve the roll-repudiating terry for the McQueen line. It doesn't quite manage the devil-may-care vibe of The Great Escape original; the raglan sleeves and snug fit make it a little too mannered for that. Then again, Steve McQueen was a smaller guy with fabulous forearms.

[Maynard Friedman]

You should cut down the sleeves and then snip lots of long vertical cuts along the length of the sleeves to give a streamer effect (think of the curtains outside betting shop doors in the 1970s if you’re old enough).

[mondo]

19 hours ago, Maynard Friedman said:

You should cut down the sleeves and then snip lots of long vertical cuts along the length of the sleeves to give a streamer effect (think of the curtains outside betting shop doors in the 1970s if you’re old enough).

Heh.. yeah, in Australia those streamers would give a nice, festive '70s going-to-cornershop-to-buy-ten-cent-bag-of-lollies effect.. keeps out the flies

[Double 0 Soul]

20 hours ago, Maynard Friedman said:

You should cut down the sleeves and then snip lots of long vertical cuts along the length of the sleeves to give a streamer effect (think of the curtains outside betting shop doors in the 1970s if you’re old enough).

..or sell them to the Star Wars reenactors

[indigoeagle]

Queston for the fabric experts:
I noticed, that on most of my sweat shirt nice creases have started to set in the sleeves.
However not in all.
And that can't be related to the weight of the fabric. As the one with no creases is on the heavier side.

What makes the difference?
The tsuriami (hang knitting, which I think is somehow different from loop wheeling) manufacturing?
 

[Thicolas Rage]

Hi there,

First post but been lurking a while. Loved scrolling through this thread and have decided to buy my first loopwheeled sweatshirt (I do already own a Warehouse 484 Hoodie which I adore but the hood is VERY pointy). As such, I have come to ask some advice from those much more experienced and knowledgeable on the topic than me.

Currently having choice paralysis between the standard Deluxeware sweatshirt (s101) and the Warehouse Lot 401. I really like the boxier fit and faded colourways of the Warehouse 401 sweat but also know that Deluxeware makes very unique fabrics with a heavier weight that would provide lots of function/utility. My main concern with the Warehouse sweat is it may not end up feeling very different from any of my regular sweatshirts due to its lighter weight (but perhaps someone who owns one could correct that statement), whereas I am fairly certain a Deluxeware sweat would stand out and feel quite substantial. Both are the same price, and both would be worn with the same purpose -- on their own (over t-shirts and oxfords) as well as under jackets in the winter. 

Anyone here own either (or both) that can help me finally make a decision? Thanks!

 

EDIT: Would also consider Two Moon if they are a better option than both!

Edited August 25 by Thicolas Rage

[willi]

A warehouse sweat probably won't blow you away right away. Modern mass produced sweatshirts from Champion and similar brands are not bad at imitating a quality feeling out of the box, compared to modern denim which doesn't feel much like real denim at all. I bought a Champion sweat last year for a football game and it feels great in the hand, not that different from a 401. The best qualities of warehouse's sweats mostly come out over time by allowing the garment to gracefully age. The sweat will hold its shape, resist pilling and tearing, the brushed interior holds its structure and continues to feel comfortable against the skin, and it will fade attractively along its seams. You have to love wearing it long enough for it to 'pay off' though.

edit: I own a 403, a 450 and a 409. Agree with you that the pointy hoods on a lot of loopwheeled hoodies are unfortunate... obviously a different connotation in jp.

Edited August 25 by willi

[NilsLW]

Agreed. My Buzz Rickson sweatshirt is my first high quality sweatshirt and unlike my old Champions and Nikes it only gets softer and better with time.

[Ciabatta]

35 minutes ago, NilsLW said:

Agreed. My Buzz Rickson sweatshirt is my first high quality sweatshirt and unlike my old Champions and Nikes it only gets softer and better with time.

Do the Buzz sweatshirts shrink up much after a couple of washes?

[NilsLW]

@Ciabatta Don’t think so, maybe the tiniest bit. Washed mine a lot and would say it’s about the same size. They are undersized however, I’m usually a medium but in the Buzz I’m an xl.

[Maynard Friedman]

@NilsLW are you speaking about the old Buzz sweatshirts or the newer style (which have probably been around for 10 years now!).

My experience is that the older style were shorter, boxier and smaller all round for that vintage style fit but in reality, sizing up is advisable. I had 2 in size M but sold them as they were a bit too small. The fabric seemed good though iirc.

I’ve had the newer style in olive in size L for about 10 years and it seems loose and shapeless, I should’ve sized down to a M. The neck v-insert is sewn on to the fabric rather than a separate piece inserted into the space and the fabric seems a bit thin and stretchy. I wouldn’t recommend them at all and I sold a red one I had.

I have a number of Deluxeware sweats, which are far superior in fabric and fit and unless these were to change, I wouldn’t buy anything else.

[NilsLW]

@Maynard Friedman It's probably the new one, since I got it 2 years ago. Sorry to hear you were not happy with it, personally I love it and use it all the time. It's an XL and has very similar dimensions to a regular modern size M sweatshirt from Nike. Perhaps I'm more into thinner fabrics, the Camber hoodies I have lying around are sadly way to thick for me.

 

Edit: now that I look at it, the v-stitch at the neck on mine is done with a different fabric so maybe our versions are different?

Edited August 30 by NilsLW

[Maynard Friedman]

I think you may like a looser fit. What I meant about the v-insert is that it is a different fabric but simply overlaid on the sweatshirt fabric. Other sweatshirts have a v-insert that is a different fabric and sewn into a v-shaped gap in the neck of the sweatshirt. I’m glad you like yours but I would probably take anything over mine.

[Alec Leamas]

My two penneth on the vintage style sweatshirt game is that the Cushman lot 26903 cannot be beaten.

Providing they don't change the materials or pattern, I'm set for life for sweaters, I've no need to go anywhere else!

[Alec Leamas]

Said sweater, not sure what I’m doing there in that second photo - trying to fly away?!