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6 hours ago, Double 0 Soul said:

Are the men folk from Leeds still rocking the allover spray tan and industrial strength teeth whitening look?

So THAT’s how it’s done! I wondered why I was getting strange looks with my dazzling pearlescent white skin and orange teeth 🤔

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I've got two pairs of Rick Owens trousers, both bought at attractive discounts locally and neither black! They're great for days I don't want to wear a belt, with a sweat fleece or a leather jacket. I always find pushback against designer brands in spaces like this funny, it's a very thin line that's being walked between brands that are designer and brands that somehow get psychologically excluded from that category... for the record the MIJ Rick stuff is quite nice, especially the leathers but I realised many years ago the sneakers aren't for me.

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I think there are quite a few labels appreciated here that are designers. Only speaking for myself but I react to the vision and the aesthetic of a designer - not the fact that they are one. I’d even call most denim labels here designers. But in a narrower sense then Tender, de Bonne Facture, Kapital, 45r, Blue Blue Japan are a few that I appreciate, for example. 

So yea, love me some weird shit - but not all weird shit floats my boat.

One of the worst sorts of brand images to me is a sense of deep and unbending seriousness. The industry of high fashion is about as toxic a concentration of egos as one can find in my experience. I’m sure there are other industries that could tie it but not sure any exceed it. It would be funnier if it weren’t so sad. 

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6 hours ago, MythicSquirrel said:

I've got two pairs of Rick Owens trousers, both bought at attractive discounts locally and neither black! They're great for days I don't want to wear a belt, with a sweat fleece or a leather jacket. I always find pushback against designer brands in spaces like this funny, it's a very thin line that's being walked between brands that are designer and brands that somehow get psychologically excluded from that category... for the record the MIJ Rick stuff is quite nice, especially the leathers but I realised many years ago the sneakers aren't for me.

 

Well you've completely missed both of my points.. i never even considered a 'pushback' against designer brands?

My 1st point was the RO pumps are fkin awful (this is only my opinion and like arseholes...ect) they're worn badly by most who try, this has nothing to do with them being a designer brand, they're just not aesthetically pleasing. I posted some SC catalogues last week, a brand which is fully accepted in the denim community but imo 80% of what's in those catalogues is grim af.. just because it's SC doesn't mean i would wear it. :D

My other point was that folks around here are buying these hideous pumps because they're sold at SE. Take our aging Bret 'the hitman' Hart character above for example.. he would never buy a similar Janet Jackson outfit from Primark, he thinks the fact that it's RO is validation but anyone with eyes can see he looks like a complete bell end.

If your RO trousers look good, that's all that matters..

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Lots of old man yells at sky going on in here...

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Not really.. it's just a matter of some shit looking good and some shit looking bad, take this for example

These jeans don't look great, the fabric doesn't drape properly which makes the guy look like he has some kind of weird penis balcony

https://www.selfedge.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=3555&search=RICK+OWENS

Whereas this fit looks great

https://www.selfedge.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=3017&search=RICK+OWENS

If you think the penis balcony jeans look good, that's fine, one man's meat is another man's poison or so they say.

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5 minutes ago, Double 0 Soul said:

Not really.. it's just a matter of some shit looking good and some shit looking bad, take this for example

These jeans don't look great, the fabric doesn't drape properly which makes the guy look like he has some kind of weird penis balcony

https://www.selfedge.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=3555&search=RICK+OWENS

Whereas this fit looks great

https://www.selfedge.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=3017&search=RICK+OWENS

If you think the penis balcony jeans look good, that's fine, one man's meat is another man's poison or so they say.

For somebody who's supposedly been into raw denim for a while I would have though you'd be familiar with how raw denim doesn't drape naturally until it's been rinsed and/or worn for a bit, neither of which has happened in these photographs. 

Also, things "looking good" is highly subjective as you know.  I've been doing this shit for 21 years now and have seen it all.... for every guy looking like a goon wearing Rick Owens there's a guy wearing a heritage fit that looks equally as bad (to me).

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13 minutes ago, kiya said:

Also, things "looking good" is highly subjective as you know.  I've been doing this shit for 21 years now and have seen it all.... for every guy looking like a goon wearing Rick Owens there's a guy wearing a heritage fit that looks equally as bad (to me).

Couldn't agree more :)

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10 hours ago, Double 0 Soul said:

 

Well you've completely missed both of my points.. i never even considered a 'pushback' against designer brands?

My 1st point was the RO pumps are fkin awful (this is only my opinion and like arseholes...ect) they're worn badly by most who try, this has nothing to do with them being a designer brand, they're just not aesthetically pleasing. I posted some SC catalogues last week, a brand which is fully accepted in the denim community but imo 80% of what's in those catalogues is grim af.. just because it's SC doesn't mean i would wear it. :D

My other point was that folks around here are buying these hideous pumps because they're sold at SE. Take our aging Bret 'the hitman' Hart character above for example.. he would never buy a similar Janet Jackson outfit from Primark, he thinks the fact that it's RO is validation but anyone with eyes can see he looks like a complete bell end.

If your RO trousers look good, that's all that matters..

I wasn't even trying to 'call you out' or anything, in fact of all the still extant fashion forum/communities I'd consider this one of the few that has enough OG's that there'd be a bit stronger cross-subcultural understanding. Rick Owens is fully independently owned and operated, I don't care how goofy people look in his clothes, when they buy from him they're supporting somebody who is doing it his own way and with his own vision, that's what's dope. 

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24 minutes ago, AlientoyWorkmachine said:

Penis balcony pants is the first bit of lightheartedness I’ve seen in the RO collection. Still not for me, but laughter is good medicine any way it comes. Perhaps I need to reconsider my assessment! 

This is something I'd love to write a long form article about some day... the idea that Fashion brands are so serious while smaller more classic brands have "fun" or humor built into their collections.  From my experience it's the exact opposite.  The brands which are very serious about what they do with very little humor involved are the ones which Superdenim cherishes.  Where as brands that don't take themselves so seriously when it comes to the brand personality are Fashion brands.    

Rick Owens is a perfect example of this, where absolutely nothing he does is without a strong sense of humor.  It's a ridiculous clothing line run by a guy who finds humor in the most perverse and unexpected places, as he says himself "when the world is on fire the least we can do is laugh at ourselves".   I think from a topical level, without any understanding of what the brand is truly about, it's very easy to think that a brand like Rick Owens takes itself so seriously, is all about doom and gloom, etc.. It also doesn't help that Rick is lumped in with dark fashion brands who do take themselves very seriously like MA+, Label Under Construction, Julius, and Viridi-anne.  

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11 minutes ago, MythicSquirrel said:

I wasn't even trying to 'call you out' or anything, in fact of all the still extant fashion forum/communities I'd consider this one of the few that has enough OG's that there'd be a bit stronger cross-subcultural understanding. Rick Owens is fully independently owned and operated, I don't care how goofy people look in his clothes, when they buy from him they're supporting somebody who is doing it his own way and with his own vision, that's what's dope. 

Fun Fact: Rick Owens is one of the only two large fashion houses in the world still owned by the founders, the other being Comme de Garcons.

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