Acronym.

[Yan90]

5 minutes ago, jeddyhsu said:

It’s interesting that for both p10-e and p30a-e mothersite mentions them as Made in USA but their caretag days Made in China. Probably a large factor as to why there’s still a lot of stock sitting 48 hrs later.

The -E fabric made in USA, same as -DS made in Switzerland. Not the garment. 

P.S. P10 are well made , better than p30 imo. 

Edited November 17, 2021 by Yan90

[keynezk]

2 minutes ago, jeddyhsu said:

It’s interesting that for both p10-e and p30a-e mothersite mentions them as Made in USA but their caretag days Made in China. Probably a large factor as to why there’s still a lot of stock sitting 48 hrs later.

It's a trap. That only means fabric is made in USA.

[kkuer99]

Guess I would call that fake if I dont know it's directly from mothersite... That tag and stiching, really no better than fakes now. The first MICs, like P30A 1.0, J1A 2.2 and GTKP are very good, but starting from J68PL the quality is getting worse each season.

Edited November 17, 2021 by kkuer99

[Inkinsurgent]

It's rather telling that for all their rationalising of MIC, they go to the effort of listing the fabric's country of origin but not the entire garment's country of origin.

 

edit: i dont think my MIC p10ds are any less well constructed than my czech P10CH and if that holds for the P10e i'll be more than happy with them but jeez guys, just own it. Arc'teryx even lists the goddamn chinese factory the garment is made in these days.

Edited November 17, 2021 by Inkinsurgent

[Kamikaze]

yeaaa the differences in quality between mic and mie becoming more apparent with every drop. i've stopped buying retail after the j1bgt and p30ads which had flaws of their own. im glad there really hasn't been anything that i absolutely most own from the recent retail drops. 

[kkuer99]

It seems like the direction of acr brand is in a dilemma. They want to make larger quantity in lower cost to expand the influence by using chinese factory, the idea is ok. However this actually seperated the brand into two lines by price and accessibility. For new customers, the main resource for them to try their first acr garment is likely to be the retailer all around,  which provide lower price MIC products. And the bad thing is, how will they know there is such diffference bt MIC and MIE? Or how many of them will actually realise there are two "levels" of product, which all looks the same, under the same brand with similiar fabric and name, but different price and build quality?

But just like mentioned in the beginning, it's a dilemma. If they want all products, no matter MIC or MIE, to have the same level of quality, the advantages wont show obviously on price and productivity. Or if they create a sub-brand like ACR ESSENTIALS, that cheaper product prob can't share the fame and popular models from ACR brand. But either way is better than guessing which season's, or which specific MIC model will be good or bad everey time, it's that uncertainty makes people feel bad. 

Edited November 17, 2021 by kkuer99

[Yan90]

No worries, soon u'll see some real acr essentials from the retailer's SS22 drop. Hehe

Edited November 17, 2021 by Yan90

[kkuer99]

Wanna ask US ppl how much import fees for your P30AE from mothersite? 

UPS trying to charge $174 for that and I only paid $110 for P38E, which is $300+ more expensive than P30AE... Not sure if warehouse got wrone code? 

[brainerd666]

5 minutes ago, kkuer99 said:

Wanna ask US ppl how much import fees for your P30AE from mothersite? 

UPS trying to charge $174 for that and I only paid $110 for P38E, which is $300+ more expensive than P30AE... Not sure if warehouse got wrone code? 

The amount varies based on materials and type of garment. Which isn’t to say they didn’t use the proper code lol

[Kamikaze]

5 minutes ago, kkuer99 said:

Wanna ask US ppl how much import fees for your P30AE from mothersite? 

UPS trying to charge $174 for that and I only paid $110 for P38E, which is $300+ more expensive than P30AE... Not sure if warehouse got wrone code? 

maybe the mic tariff? not sure if that's still a thing as i haven't ordered in a while

[wexler]

MiC is an additional ~7.5% for USA

Thanks Trump

[kkuer99]

Thanks guys.

Ah... another hit, lower quality, same price (with tax)

[robbatussin]

Oh right, there was a drop. Here come the tariff posts...

[Yan90]

5 hours ago, kkuer99 said:

Guess I would call that fake if I dont know it's directly from mothersite... That tag and stiching, really no better than fakes now. The first MICs, like P30A 1.0, J1A 2.2 and GTKP are very good, but starting from J68PL the quality is getting worse each season.

Did you mean the size tag mistake on j68pl with dat mysterious word "ninjawarning"? 

 

Edited November 17, 2021 by Yan90

[Inkinsurgent]

what's the story behind that?

[kkuer99]

Just now, Yan90 said:

Did you mean the size tag mistake on j68pl with dat mysterious word "ninjawarning"? 

yeah I know this taobao fake shop, they've made J68pl, J1B, P30A and they have J79 fakes on the way so be aware ppl 

[kkuer99]

Just now, Inkinsurgent said:

what's the story behind that?

basically a shop make fake popular acr models and use a [different name tag] to sell. 

[Yan90]

I saw it on my local marketplace. The seller wrote that only 5 pcs were made. Rare

[brainerd666]

4 hours ago, wexler said:

MiC is an additional ~7.5% for USA

Thanks Trump

Thought I’d put this in my other post. 
 

S’what what I get for posting between orders lol. 

[alexzzz]

Have you guys seen Ian’s story post? New pants in coming????

 

[itHZwhatitHZ]

4 hours ago, alexzzz said:

Have you guys seen Ian’s story post? New pants in coming????

It's from the apparel collection with the upcoming Acronym Nike Blazers collaboration.

[Inkinsurgent]

Yeah even the MIC P10DS flew out the door. I'm guessing the production numbers are still based on all the hype around the brand and the hype is waning.

 

Then again we all used to bitch about missing out on drops so... now we got the stock we wanted.

edit: also my mothersite order from monday still hasn't even shipped yet. come on guys, would've been better off ordering from a retailer like this.

Edited November 18, 2021 by Inkinsurgent

[hanzen1138]

41 minutes ago, Inkinsurgent said:

Yeah even the MIC P10DS flew out the door. I'm guessing the production numbers are still based on all the hype around the brand and the hype is waning.

As garish as some of the upcoming clothes that are part of the Blazer drop look, I still think that's gonna change real soon. I really hope I'm wrong, but between the Acronym x Nike collab just around the corner and the not too far off SS22 Acronym x sacai drop... But whatever, that hype will pass eventually in a few seasons I'm sure

[moneytalks]

On 11/17/2021 at 6:10 PM, FelixRevolt said:

Would you get in the ring with Mike Tyson for a J68-E?

in a heartbeat LOL

although i still would prefer my j68 in stotz, fits the cut best imo

[wexler]

21 hours ago, kkuer99 said:

but starting from J68PL the quality is getting worse each season.

What was the issue w J68 beyond the size tag like everything else? Never saw anything except them peeling. 

[Abarth_Swag]

1 hour ago, wexler said:

What was the issue w J68 beyond the size tag like everything else? Never saw anything except them peeling. 

Speedlock hem cord wasn't secured well enough with the stiching and could tear off. Happened to mine on the right (front) side.

[kkuer99]

1 hour ago, wexler said:

What was the issue w J68 beyond the size tag like everything else? Never saw anything except them peeling. 

Sorry I didn't make that clear. I was trying to say, as ppl already mentioned on SUFU, some MIC items are having issues that not usually seen before. like the size tag peeling on 68pl, the collar stitching defects on J1A-GTPL, and the new shitty size tag on P30AE... Those signs of cutting corners on details might not affect the whole integrity or function of a garment, but it might go wild if the brand just choose not to see it and let it happen. 

Edited November 18, 2021 by kkuer99

[thatslapz]

This is something I have said before, but as the resident Acronym apologist, I feel obligated to say it again - Acronym has always had quality issues like this. With their growth, they are reaching a larger (and more connected) market with more product, so the flaws are more apparent. Yes, it is incredibly disappointing to get something that needs to be fixed out of the bag, or after a few wears.  Yes, it is fine to bitch about it on the internet.  But also yes, most of us will keep buying it because we're braindead. 

[CountZatara]

5 minutes ago, thatslapz said:

Acronym has always had quality issues like this.

I second that whole statement. The velcro cuff on my J1TS is coming unstitched and it wasn't from heavy use. It was probably from loose stitching straight from the factory... but everything else on the jacket is immaculate.

 

You gotta remind yourself that at the end of the day, there are people making this incredibly difficult stuff.

 

There's always going to be a certain level of human error involved. Embrace the wabi sabi.

[chris_n]

as a whole i don't think acr product quality has changed much since i've been wearing it and i'm actually pretty impressed that they've been able to maintain a certain level of quality with such an increase in production. but i do think the demographic has become more whiny about things

Edited November 18, 2021 by chris_n