Acronym.

[Cornuto]

  On 2/19/2021 at 1:54 AM, IzunaK said:

Do any bigger dudes here have the LA8-AK at all? After all the talk about the DS version, I was wondering what the sizing is like. Found a pretty good deal on the AK version in L, but not sure if I need L/XL @ 220lbs with a 44 inch chest and 5'10".

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I’m 6 foot, 200 Lbs w a 48” chest and my XL is too snug.

Really liked LA8-DS, but ACRNM shirts skeer me, they’re always too much like sausage casings for me. 

[moneytalks]

ok Q that was good, now leave it there

[segue]

  On 2/23/2021 at 12:42 AM, moneytalks said:

ok Q that was good, now leave it there

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LOL with the social cues

[BRICK DOM]

Does anyone else wish E would offer pants with wider hems (8.5 in +) again? I feel like pretty much every pant has a taper and it’s kind of unnecessary, for example the p34 would look a lot better without the awkward taper below the knee. Just my 2 cents 

Edited February 23, 2021 by BRICK DOM

[Kamikaze]

  On 2/23/2021 at 6:20 PM, BRICK DOM said:

Does anyone else wish E would offer pants with wider hems (8.5 in +) again? I feel like pretty much every pant has a taper and it’s kind of unnecessary, for example the p34 would look a lot better without the awkward taper below the knee. Just my 2 cents 

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I wear my p31a less and less cause I’m not really feeling the taper and how wide the thighs look especially with the pockets flaring out. I grab my p32 way more lately. 

[CountZatara]

  On 2/23/2021 at 6:20 PM, BRICK DOM said:

I feel like pretty much every pant has a taper and it’s kind of unnecessary,

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*Literally every Enfin Leve pant and dude who posts on the /techwear sub reddit page.

I tend to gravitate towards my P24As since they are a good middle ground between wideness and taper. I would love for them to do a wider pant. Something along the lines of a M-65 field trouser size.

[Nebulae]

  On 2/23/2021 at 6:20 PM, BRICK DOM said:

Does anyone else wish E would offer pants with wider hems (8.5 in +) again? I feel like pretty much every pant has a taper and it’s kind of unnecessary, for example the p34 would look a lot better without the awkward taper below the knee. Just my 2 cents 

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Definitely agree, I imagine its for functional reasons tho as dragging hems could be 'cumbersome,' Personally would love them to bring back something like the P5TS-S lower leg, great slouchy relaxed look. 

[brian_g]

  On 2/23/2021 at 7:21 PM, Nebulae said:

Definitely agree, I imagine its for functional reasons tho as dragging hems could be 'cumbersome,' Personally would love them to bring back something like the P5TS-S lower leg, great slouchy relaxed look. 

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The P9-S has a nice fit that is comparable to the straight leg look that's popular nowadays, similar to Dickies 874. The grosgrain at the hem is a bit wider than more modern pants, so it's easier to cuff if that's the look you're going for. Only thing I'd wish for is a slightly higher rise waist. 

[Orientalq]

Why doesn't E just make pants that let us adjust how wide we want the hems to be? Like the Jacket cuff tape adjustment. And no I'm not talking about the ribbon shoelace hem on the p34, I'm not wasting my time with that when velcro holds up much better. 

Arcteryx, Crye, and literally every other combat pant clone has the velcro tape adjustment. 

EDIT: cowboy pants don't need tight hems

Edited February 23, 2021 by Orientalq

[Cornuto]

Didn’t anyone cop P33-DS?  They’re quite straight, if a bit slouchier than combat pants. 

33’s and 31’s are all I’m wearing nowadays. P24 cut is nice, but DS blows Stotz away in terms of versatility.

[kobebean]

  On 2/24/2021 at 6:22 AM, Cornuto said:

Didn’t anyone cop P33-DS?  They’re quite straight, if a bit slouchier than combat pants. 

33’s and 31’s are all I’m wearing nowadays. P24 cut is nice, but DS blows Stotz away in terms of versatility.

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P33 are a fantastic straight leg pant. I especially like that they don't have webbing sewn into hem, makes them sit really nicely on shoes. 

Edited February 24, 2021 by kobebean

[Nebulae]

  On 2/24/2021 at 6:22 AM, Cornuto said:

Didn’t anyone cop P33-DS?  They’re quite straight, if a bit slouchier than combat pants. 

33’s and 31’s are all I’m wearing nowadays. P24 cut is nice, but DS blows Stotz away in terms of versatility.

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Had them, great pant (especially with no knee articulation) but they’re still tapered

[CCALL]

  On 2/24/2021 at 2:47 PM, Nebulae said:

Had them, great pant (especially with no knee articulation) but they’re still tapered

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Out of curiosity, what made you get rid of the 33s? I've been on the fence about them for a while now.

[Nebulae]

  On 2/24/2021 at 3:54 PM, CCALL said:

Out of curiosity, what made you get rid of the 33s? I've been on the fence about them for a while now.

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I just prefer to wear pants with a more regular rise and wider leg, nothing against the pant. One of the better recent pants shapes if you're into it.

[CountZatara]

  On 2/24/2021 at 6:22 AM, Cornuto said:

33’s and 31’s are all I’m wearing nowadays. P24 cut is nice, but DS blows Stotz away in terms of versatility.

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I'm curious by what you mean by that? I know the patina might turn some people off, but I prefer the hand feel of Stotz over DS. I personally think it's more casual in way. Sometimes the GT and DS combo can feel like you're wearing a wetsuit with all the synthetic fibers.

  On 2/24/2021 at 2:00 PM, kobebean said:

P33 are a fantastic straight leg pant. I especially like that they don't have webbing sewn into hem, makes them sit really nicely on shoes. 

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Second this, especially on high top shoes like the AJ1s. Anyone here have fit pics with low top sneakers? There were pics months ago with some Vans Old Skools and it made me wanna get a pair. lol

[thatslapz]

P33 go well with most shoes. They were great, versatile pants, and I only sold them because I got P36. The hidden cargos on the rear concealed contents thanks to the wide cut, and could easily be shifted to the side when you sit. I usually never use rear pockets because I don’t like sitting on stuff, but I regularly put my keys and MP3/MP2TS in these. The P36 has the rear cargo pockets also but uses the pleating for concealment. My only complaint on the 33 was the combination of the wider phone pocket, DS construction and wide straight fit in through the thighs allowed my phone (iPhone X no case) to slip out, especially when I was sitting on the floor or in a car where the opening is pointed down.  Couple of old pictures below, I think I posted a couple with the C1 a while back too. One static and one super awkward action shot. 

 

[CountZatara]

  On 2/24/2021 at 6:15 PM, thatslapz said:

The hidden cargos on the rear concealed contents thanks to the wide cut, and could easily be shifted to the side when you sit.

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I love the verticality of the rear cargos. Even when filled, it doesn't affect the silhouette of the pant or cause bulk in your ass. I found the contents tend to slide toward the back of your lower thigh. Pre-pandemic I could've snuck in two cans of Four Lokos depending on how lax the security was at the clubs. lol

Sidenote: Was anyone in this thread at the Lab (Orange County) last Saturday? Saw someone crossing the street wearing what appeared to be the J28-WS. I saw the ACR logo tape from a mile away. lol First time I've seen ACR serendipitously outside of organized Nike/SI events. Would've fondled you and your fit but I was in my car. 

[Cornuto]

Versatile as in weather conditions. DS is comfy in a wider range. Maybe swampy in heat & humidity, but S is too thick to be much better. 

I was shoveling snow the other day, 10°, kinda wet. My legs would have been cold in Stotz, but P31’s were more than warm enough. 

Don’t get me wrong, P24’s are great. Had there been a blazer to match, I never would have bought DS. But I’m a convert. Outdoorsy folk have been calling DS a miracle fabric for 10+ years. 

[Inkinsurgent]

DS is definitely the most comfortable of their current fabric offerings but it does get a bit too hot in summer.

The old CH fabric (both the industrial micro twill and schoeller shape) is even better though - although it's also less water resistant.

[kriztopher]

  On 2/23/2021 at 6:20 PM, BRICK DOM said:

Does anyone else wish E would offer pants with wider hems (8.5 in +) again? I feel like pretty much every pant has a taper and it’s kind of unnecessary, for example the p34 would look a lot better without the awkward taper below the knee. Just my 2 cents 

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Basically the reason why I got the p37, with a slightly wider hem and a more straight cut. Definitely one of the more toned down pants. 

[moneytalks]

as someone who lives in the tropics and wears lots of acronym bottoms, this is the comfort ranking:

E – DS – CH – S

S being absolutely unbearable if you're going to be out and about on a sunny day. the S pants stay in the closet for when i go on trips to cooler places

[Orientalq]

  On 2/25/2021 at 5:39 AM, moneytalks said:

E – DS – CH – S

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Encapsulated Nylon better than DS? Which model, in particular, did you like compared to DS? Was it because of the wide-cut or is there something about the fabric that lends it to being so comfortable in tropic environments? Also, does that mean jackets in Encapsulated Nylon are just as good? I can imagine it being better than GTX. Maybe J33-E is actually the best jacket for sale if not for it's saggy cut.

Edited February 25, 2021 by Orientalq

[brainerd666]

  On 2/24/2021 at 7:25 PM, Inkinsurgent said:

DS is definitely the most comfortable of their current fabric offerings but it does get a bit too hot in summer.

The old CH fabric (both the industrial micro twill and schoeller shape) is even better though - although it's also less water resistant.

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I just copped a pristine pair of P16a-CH a couple weeks back. After wearing my p10-ch regularly for the last 5 years, it feels fucking majestic walking around with like twice as much fabric lol

Edited February 25, 2021 by brainerd666

[markdjr]

  On 2/25/2021 at 8:37 PM, brainerd666 said:

I just copped a pristine pair of P16a-CH a couple weeks back. After wearing my p10-ch regularly for the last 5 years, it feels fucking majestic walking around with like twice as much fabric lol

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Is it thicker than the P10-CH?

[brainerd666]

  On 2/25/2021 at 9:34 PM, markdjr said:

Is it thicker than the P10-CH?

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Nah, it’s just a much wider profile overall

[Theanix]

  On 2/24/2021 at 6:50 PM, CountZatara said:

I love the verticality of the rear cargos. Even when filled, it doesn't affect the silhouette of the pant or cause bulk in your ass. I found the contents tend to slide toward the back of your lower thigh. Pre-pandemic I could've snuck in two cans of Four Lokos depending on how lax the security was at the clubs. lol

Sidenote: Was anyone in this thread at the Lab (Orange County) last Saturday? Saw someone crossing the street wearing what appeared to be the J28-WS. I saw the ACR logo tape from a mile away. lol First time I've seen ACR serendipitously outside of organized Nike/SI events. Would've fondled you and your fit but I was in my car. 

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Haha that was me in the J28-WS abd P31. Made a stop at Blends to pick up the Porter x Vans Sk8 Hi

Edited February 26, 2021 by Theanix

[Orientalq]

  On 2/26/2021 at 2:21 AM, Theanix said:

Haha that was me in the J28-WS abd P31. Made a stop at Blends to pick up the Porter x Vans Sk8 Hi

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small world

[Yan90]

  On 2/25/2021 at 9:34 PM, markdjr said:

Is it thicker than the P10-CH?

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-CH on p10-ch SS16, p10a-ch FW1617 is a bit thicker than -CH on p16a-ch, p10a-ch from FW1516. 

[brainerd666]

  On 2/26/2021 at 6:22 AM, Yan90 said:

-CH on p10-ch SS16, p10a-ch FW1617 is a bit thicker than -CH on p16a-ch, p10a-ch from FW1516. 

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Yah, my P10a’s are the 16/17 and def very sliiiightly heavier doing a side by side. My P10 pair are at work right now, but I’d swear they’re the same weight as the 16a’s... Maybe I’ve just beat the shit out of them at this point lol

[Yan90]

  On 2/26/2021 at 7:18 AM, brainerd666 said:

Yah, my P10a’s are the 16/17 and def very sliiiightly heavier doing a side by side. My P10 pair are at work right now, but I’d swear they’re the same weight as the 16a’s... Maybe I’ve just beat the shit out of them at this point lol

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Maybe.

My p16ach=p10ach (both night, fw1516), but my worn pair (2-3 yrs) p10ch black SS16 are still more rigid and structured  (especially on arc knee area) than previous p10ch in like new cond.