Freewheelers, Bootleggers Reunion, Bubo, etc.

[Broark]

I'm guessing the '22 jeans follow the same line as the '27 jacket, which feature the "standard" denim (i.e.: '43, '47, '51, '56, etc.).
Think I just read your post from the wrong perspective @MJF9, all good!
All that said, FW sure do love some nuance around their denim don't they?
I'm back in the '42s, going to stick with them until the WoM contest. Hoping it cools down at some point so I can wear the jacket as well...

[indigoeagle]

12 minutes ago, Broark said:

I'm guessing the '22 jeans follow the same line as the '27 jacket, which feature the "standard" denim (i.e.: '43, '47, '51, '56, etc.).

So, the 43 is standard denim.
And the other WWII models- 1944-45 with the OD HBT pockets and the 1945 with the flannel pockets- are the slubbier denim (stronger vertical fading), same as the recent 1942?

Edited Sunday at 06:09 PM by indigoeagle

[Broark]

2 minutes ago, indigoeagle said:

So, the 43 is standard denim.
And the other WWII models- 1944-45 with the OD HBT pockets and the 1945 with the flannel pockets- are the slubbier denim (stronger vertical fading), same as the recent 1942?

Yup that's correct. Or at least I believe it is correct.

[shredwin_206]

Now y’all have me even more confused. I’ll just stick to thrashing all of the jeans equally. Hahaha 

[indigoeagle]

Wow

So we got in those years:
1937 XXC- red cast denim
1942- WWII denim
1943- "standard" denim, OD HBT pocket bags
1944-45- WWII denim, OD HBT pocket bags
1945- WWII denim, red (not sure, if several colours) buffalo check flannel pocket bags
1947- "standard" denim

I think, FW hasn't released a 1946 pair (yet)??

Edit: I've just seen, that there was also a 1946 pair. Released in March 2020.
It has the same fabric as the 1947 one.
But with all yellow stitching, iron buttons with clear finish vs. the later white painted ones and also with buffalo check flannel pocket bags but in a mustard colour.

Edited Sunday at 06:32 PM by indigoeagle

[MJF9]

23 minutes ago, Broark said:

I'm guessing the '22 jeans follow the same line as the '27 jacket, which feature the "standard" denim (i.e.: '43, '47, '51, '56, etc.).

You guessed right mate.  Just looked this up - avenuewebstore states the '22 jeans denim is the 'standard' as used on the '47 jeans.

I also rechecked elsewhere (for sanity's sake) and the '22 jacket uses the same as the '33 jacket and '37 jeans.

So the '22 jeans and the '27 jacket are matchy matchy on denim.  The '22 jacket an outlier.  Would be interested if there was any FW logic to this (other than the timing point)

[shredwin_206]

1922 jeans   
1927 jacket 

[LazyS]

I think Duke's mentioned before that the "standard" denim is dyed different shades of blue depending on year?

[MJF9]

17 minutes ago, shredwin_206 said:

1922 jeans   
1927 jacket 

FW '20s tux FTW!!!

[Broark]

11 minutes ago, LazyS said:

I think Duke's mentioned before that the "standard" denim is dyed different shades of blue depending on year?

Yup I believe that’s correct.

[Duke Mantee]

3 hours ago, MJF9 said:

That's what my post said mate... 

I have the '27 jacket too - it's the 'standard' denim.

I don't have the '22 jeans (as you say released years ago) and for clarity can't say what denim they are. My earlier post could have inferred it was the same as the jacket (good spot Austin, thanks). That said, it seems a bit odd to have a '22 jacket that is different denim to the '22 jeans but it may well be true or not!  Calling @Duke Mantee 

I think the 506XX ‘22 is new denim - not the same as the 601XX ‘22

[indigoeagle]

I found this description at McFly for the 506XX '22:

"The fabric is the original 14 oz indigo denim.
Compared to the classic 1947 model 506XX, this indigo denim is darker and has a reddish color."

[AlientoyWorkmachine]

I’m not sure what “the original 14oz denim” refers to from McFly, but my 506xx ‘22 certainly seems different from their standard ‘51/‘47 denim (not just the darker color but it feels like a rougher, possibly shorter staple cotton) and it’s sure different than the denim on my s601/s506xx too. 

I’ll go with @Duke Manteehere. It seems like it’s its own thing. 

[indigoeagle]

7 hours ago, AlientoyWorkmachine said:

I’m not sure what “the original 14oz denim” refers to from McFly, but my 506xx ‘22 certainly seems different from their standard ‘51/‘47 denim (not just the darker color but it feels like a rougher, possibly shorter staple cotton) and it’s sure different than the denim on my s601/s506xx too. 

I’ll go with @Duke Manteehere. It seems like it’s its own thing. 

Their standard one is the XX denim (47, 51, etc.).
With original here I think they mean that it has been developed exclusively by them and for them.

So, 22 jacket - 33 jacket and 37 jeans all use the same red cast "original" denim

[Duke Mantee]

5 hours ago, indigoeagle said:

Their standard one is the XX denim (47, 51, etc.).
With original here I think they mean that it has been developed exclusively by them and for them.

So, 22 jacket - 33 jacket and 37 jeans all use the same red cast "original" denim

All FW ‘jean’ denim is developed specifically for and by them - in fact they tend to take that approach with a lot of fabrics where possible.

The ‘standard’ denim was developed from bootleggers denim into the denim we first saw in the 47 then in other articles, each time with a different dye mix (eg the 51, 39 etc)

Since then they’ve developed a couple of other denims (S601, 50622 etc) - usually with a subtle variations or emphasis on the warp, nep, tension etc

[FurnitureMaker]

Is this the Hoosier site everyone uses to keep up with new releases?

https://hoosierfromfrenchlick.com
 

It hasn’t changed in months. 

[Broark]

@FurnitureMaker I think 99% of transactions are made with Hoosier via email or Instagram dm.

[frank]

28 minutes ago, FurnitureMaker said:

Is this the Hoosier site everyone uses to keep up with new releases?

https://hoosierfromfrenchlick.com
 

It hasn’t changed in months. 

I DM him on Insta to buy stuff, seems like he posts new releases there.

[shredwin_206]

Seems Duke isn’t the only one offloading his FW collection. I see a bunch of stuff from Smallrod on eBay. 
luckily it’s all too small for me