Freewheelers, Bootleggers Reunion, Bubo, etc.

[shredwin_206]

s601xx with flannel pockets on top. 
Super repairs from @julian-wolf     
1937 jeans on bottom. Sometime I wish they looked as good as @MJF9 pair. Haha 

[MJF9]

@shredwin_206 blimey... well worn and looking great Shred!!

[Dr_Heech]

@MJF9 about time for some FW1922 506 update pics, no? 😁

 

[ATWM]

I’ll second that - though only because mine aren’t worth posting at this point - hasn’t even gotten it’s first wash. It’s unfortunately taken a back seat to my OA jacket at the moment!

[MJF9]

Ahhh well I wore it today coincidentally and could post it but have hardly worn it so nothing to see lads. I've been wearing the 33 jacket instead which is the same denim (as the 37 jeans as well) and, I find, a tough fader... bit worth the effort. I'll get some pics of that up instead as an alternative if that's ok?

It's nice to have the 22 as a dark 'smart' denim jacket

[Broark]

I'm getting around to washing my 1942 tux (managed to hold off for almost two whole months ), here are pre-wash measurements if anyone is interested.
601xx w36:
Waist: 19 in.
Front rise: 14.75 in.
Back rise: 19.5 in. (!!!)
Thigh: 14.5 in.
Knee: 11 in.
Hem: 10 in.
Inseam: 34 in. (hemmed)

506xx sz46:
Chest: 25 in.
Shoulders: 22 in.
Length: 26.5 in.
Sleeves: 26 in.

Will take some comparison photos with the ww2 tux once they're dry.

[Dr_Heech]

7 minutes ago, Broark said:

I'm getting around to washing my 1942 tux (managed to hold off for almost two whole months )..

😂 That's so Broark.

Looking forward to post wash measurements on that jacket mate.

 

[Broark]

I'm going on a trip out of town in a couple of weeks and wanted to start wearing it so I figured it was as good of a time as ever.

[Broark]

A few hours out hanging in the Texas sun and they're almost completely dry.
Just did a hot wash, gentle cycle. Here are the results.
601xx w36:
Waist: 19 in. -> 18 in.
Front rise: 14.75 in. -> 14.25 in.
Back rise: 19.5 in. -> 18.5 in.
Thigh: 14.5 in. -> 14 in.
Knee: 11 in. -> 10 in.
Hem: 10 in. -> 9.5 in.
Inseam: 34 in. (hemmed) -> 32 in.

506xx sz46:
Chest: 25 in. -> 24.25 in.
Shoulders: 22 in. -> 21 in.
Length: 26.5 in. -> 25.5 in.
Sleeves: 26 in. -> 25 in.

[vlad_III]

1 hour ago, Broark said:

A few hours out hanging in the Texas sun and they're almost completely dry.
Just did a hot wash, gentle cycle. Here are the results.
601xx w36:
Waist: 19 in. -> 18 in.
Front rise: 14.75 in. -> 14.25 in.
Back rise: 19.5 in. -> 18.5 in.
Thigh: 14.5 in. -> 14 in.
Knee: 11 in. -> 10 in.
Hem: 10 in. -> 9.5 in.
Inseam: 34 in. (hemmed) -> 32 in.

506xx sz46:
Chest: 25 in. -> 24.25 in.
Shoulders: 22 in. -> 21 in.
Length: 26.5 in. -> 25.5 in.
Sleeves: 26 in. -> 25 in.

What do you mean by inseam hemmed? 
did you get them hemmed before first wash? 

[Broark]

2 hours ago, vlad_III said:

What do you mean by inseam hemmed? 
did you get them hemmed before first wash? 

Correct, I just was trying to notate that they had been hemmed from the original inseam length to 34 with the intention of getting them to shrink to 31 or 32 post wash.

[vlad_III]

44 minutes ago, Broark said:

Correct, I just was trying to notate that they had been hemmed from the original inseam length to 34 with the intention of getting them to shrink to 31 or 32 post wash.

Nice. Great info.. thanks!

Would like to try that too on my next pair. 
can you explain?

what was original length pre-wash and how did you determine how much to cut?

this is same denim as ww2 right ?

Edited August 16, 2024 by vlad_III

[Broark]

8 hours ago, vlad_III said:

what was original length pre-wash and how did you determine how much to cut?

this is same denim as ww2 right ?

Definitely not going to take credit here, Hoosier handles the calculations for me.
The jeans were about 35.5 in. unwashed before the hem, so he took about an inch to an inch and a half off.
And correct, this is the same denim as the S601xx / S506xx from a few years back.

[Broark]

Just some quick comparison photos.
S601xx, S506xx, 601xx-C, 506xx '33, 601xx '42 and 506xx '42.
The WWII tux and 1942 tux are made from the same denim.

[tooth]

@Broark Awesome 👍

Do you have a favorite pair / denim?

[Broark]

28 minutes ago, tooth said:

Do you have a favorite pair / denim?

Thanks! And it's a bit hard to say honestly, the last few months I've been wearing my WWII OAs, but I do miss how loose the 601's are in the top block by comparison.
I think my favorite fabric is the WWII denim. But I felt like I washed my S601xx's a bit too frequently / early.
So with the '42s I plan on trying to go for a little more contrast and see how the fabric reacts to that.

[Dr_Heech]

Cracking tux line up @Broark. Love how the 1933 model jacket has a single stitch pocket added whereas the 1942 jacket has been sewn on using a twin needle machine with lock stitch to the pocket flap.

 

[Broark]

Thanks Doc, my wife says they all look identical (and I quote "why do you have so many of the same things?!") so I'm glad someone can appreciate the small nuances.

[Dr_Heech]

🤣

[tooth]

Completely agree with the topblock of the 601XX 42 vs the OA SOA03XX WWI. I've been rotating those pairs (alongside SC's 1946 and S1943 'super denim collectibles') and the OA's definitely have the slimmest topblock, and most 'regular' feeling denim, but very nice at that as is typical with OA. Been fun wearing pairs based on the same era, but with such different detailing and denim. 

[Broark]

@tooth The denim used on the OA WWII pair is great for the summer, very breathable and I like the wider leg opening.
I just hate trying to get anything in or out of the front pockets, compared to the 601xx models the front pocket openings are so tiny!
I've been wearing my SC 43s a bit as well, but I've been trying to stay committed to the OAs. However that might change now with the '42s.

[vlad_III]

Freewheelers have three ww2 jeans now?

-1942

-olive pockets 

- flannel pockets 

 

[julian-wolf]

I think the 1942 are solidly pre-war; they’re essentially a 1937 type. I don’t know anything about the specific timeline of rations setting in, but the US didn’t join in until late 1941, so I guess it wouldn’t be surprising if factories were still following old recipes through at least the first chunk of ‘42

Edited August 21, 2024 by julian-wolf

[vlad_III]

1 minute ago, julian-wolf said:

I think the 1942 are solidly pre-war. I don’t know anything about the timeline of rations setting in, but the US didn’t join in until late 1941, so I guess it wouldn’t be surprising if factories were still following old recipes through at least the first chunk of ‘42

True. 42s also still have the cinch. 

for the other ww2 models, the only difference is the pocket bags?

[shredwin_206]

Correct. only difference is the pocket bags 

Edited August 21, 2024 by shredwin_206

[Broark]

7 hours ago, vlad_III said:

Freewheelers have three ww2 jeans now?

-1942

-olive pockets 

- flannel pockets 

 

Like Julian I wouldn't put the '42s in the WWII category, to my knowledge there have been 3 war era models.
1822017: WWII 1943, released in 2018. Made using a denim closely resembling the '47 - '51 601xx.
2122041: WWII 1944, olive HBT pocket bags, first appearance of the updated grainy war era denim.
2132001: WWII 1945, flannel pocket bags, nearly identical details to the 2122041 besides the pocket bags.

[indigoeagle]

20 minutes ago, Broark said:

Like Julian I wouldn't put the '42s in the WWII category, to my knowledge there have been 3 war era models.
1822017: WWII 1943, released in 2018. Made using a denim closely resembling the '47 - '51 601xx.
2122041: WWII 1944, olive HBT pocket bags, first appearance of the updated grainy war era denim.
2132001: WWII 1945, flannel pocket bags, nearly identical details to the 2122041 besides the pocket bags.

Regarding the classification, it seems that there are two halfs in 1942.
The FW model references the early half, with still cinch and coin pocket rivets present, while for example the Warehouse 1942 model is based on a pair of the later half of 1942, with painted arcuates, no coin pocket rivets, denim cloth pocket bags (sleaks?), but still with the crotch rivet.
Also the denim is coarser ralready.

[Broark]

@indigoeagle you bring up a good point, this is how FW references the 42s. I just typically associate war models with jeans made featuring the material restrictions, and the 42s feature a lot of materials that were subsequently cut out.

[indigoeagle]

14 minutes ago, Broark said:

@indigoeagle you bring up a good point, this is how FW references the 42s. I just typically associate war models with jeans made featuring the material restrictions, and the 42s feature a lot of materials that were subsequently cut out.

Sure. That's what makes them so special and merits the release of a model of that vintage.

[shredwin_206]

my buddy is a farmer and finally took my advice to try some Freewheelers after trashing his ROY and WH Ranch jeans. 
These are his 601b after about 2-3 weeks of work on the farm and a wash/dryer.