The Flat Head

[Maynard Friedman]

I'm just commenting on the fit, don't give a hoot whether it's a collaboration or not. Also, owning Flat Heads myself, I know how much shrinkage they're capable of, particularly after a machine wash, hence the comments.

[shoreman]

I wasn't referring to your post. (It actually appeared to be based on some sort of relative experience.) I don't like the idea of categorizing a jean or brand by associating it with a certain type of person. The real issue with this particular jean is the choice of inseam length. I'm not quite sure what the thought process was behind this decision, especially considering it is being advertised, primarily, to a North American market.

Edited January 13, 2012 by Shoreman

[beautiful_FrEaK]

if it was directed at me: well maynard described the fit and from the range of cuts n&f offers, a person choosing a pair of n&f is most likely after such a fit

or does n&F offers a non-slim straight fit? or a relaxed straigh fit?

i have one pair of n&f and it is just ...well..tight

[S-Town]

Unless you size up in N&F, they crush balls. Skinny jean enthusiasts will say that the Slim Guy cut is baggy. But in reality, even it is still quite a slim jean. It also crushes balls, but not as bad as the Weird Guy used here. So, someone buying this collab probably knows this going in.

Man, I just feel like there are too many collaborations out there in general. I think stores having "bespoke" models made exclusively for them is cool, but all the brandA x brandB x brandC is kinda mind numbing.

Edited January 13, 2012 by S-Town

[RawAsDenim]

The inseam is at a solid 33" from 34.75" and that was with me hanging them by the legs but heres the post soak fit pics

(My balls are fine guys I had a good amount of room prior to the soak)

Edit: But could anyone with 3XXX denim experience tell me how much stretch to expect?

Edited January 13, 2012 by RawAsDenim

[reallypeacedoff]

Edit: But could anyone with 3XXX denim experience tell me how much stretch to expect?

Lots! I had SE05BSPs and they went from 34" - 32.75" - 35.5" but depends on what you do in them, how tight they are etc

[S-Town]

^

That's a solid fit!!!

[Hippopotamuz]

Great fit!!!

[shoreman]

They're a bit tight for my tastes, but if you're into a slim fight, that's definitely alright.

[sehnsi]

The inseam is at a solid 33" from 34.75" and that was with me hanging them by the legs but heres the post soak fit pics

(My balls are fine guys I had a good amount of room prior to the soak)

Edit: But could anyone with 3XXX denim experience tell me how much stretch to expect?

This is a perfect fit, fuck the haters. Only thing I don't like visually is the rise on you but its probably comfortable anyway.

Edited January 13, 2012 by sehnsi

[RawAsDenim]

This is a perfect fit, fuck the haters. Only thing I don't like visually is the rise on you but its probably comfortable anyway.

Actually compared to my NFxONI's rise these haven't been nearly as suffocating especially after wearing them all day today

Edit: Ty for the feedback/answers guys lol

Edited January 14, 2012 by RawAsDenim

[reallypeacedoff]

If the SE05BSP was tapered another 0.3" at the leg opening (for a size 33), it would be the perfect jean in my opinion. Not skin tight but well fitted throughout the hole leg... Thinking of getting a new pair and getting them tailored... rocking the 38" inseam of course ha

[pingaling]

^ i got my bsps sz 34 tapered to around 7.4 inches, they got an amazing fit on em.

if you want i can post up pics for you to compare before and after taper fits

Edited January 14, 2012 by pingaling

[whozdrew?]

Been about 4 months in my 1001s now. Gonna pick up a new pair. The fit is too slim for my liking. Plus the 16oz fabric feels like a pile of feathers compared to my Sam 710s

[pingaling]

just reference for anyone interested in tapering their bsps

sz 34 before taper: (1st pic) and after taper (2nd pic)

Edited January 16, 2012 by pingaling

[TwelveAM]

I actually liked the 'before' when it wasn't tapered. The fit was good and looked great already prior to the alterations.

[shinjin]

do you mind telling me what model and color of red wings those are? im thinking about buying a pair

thanks and great fit!

Edited January 16, 2012 by shinjin

[darbir]

F310

13 months

1 soak 1 wash

Before wash

After wash

an accident happened to my jeans

Detail

[darbir]

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[Cold Summer]

Nice fades, but those are the strangest-looking combs I've ever seen. And what's up with those lines? I'm pretty sure that's not what Flat Head means by "vertical fade."

[beautiful_FrEaK]

i had similiar lines from washing a new pair to shrink it. but not faded that much.

and combs are really strange as they cover nearly the whole leg.

[llvlaglne]

nice fit

[reallypeacedoff]

I would imagine he either use to sag then lifted up his pants or didn't soak to begin with and wore for a while before he soaked?

[CMCiA]

^I thought the same. Looks like he made the mistake of doing a tumble dry too. Those lines look all too familiar............

[niix]

That's a bit disappointing, I really had faith in that pair. Too bad those weird vertical lines ruin it for me Aside from that they look great over all. Makes me wish I never gave up on my BSPs.

If the SE05BSP was tapered another 0.3" at the leg opening (for a size 33), it would be the perfect jean in my opinion. Not skin tight but well fitted throughout the hole leg... Thinking of getting a new pair and getting them tailored... rocking the 38" inseam of course ha

This is exactly stopped wearing mine, perfect for the most part, but from the knee down because too much of a "straight fit" for me after a few months.

Edited January 17, 2012 by niix

[Cold Summer]

Tumble-drying makes those lines? Whoa, didn't know that. I'll be careful not to make that mistake with any of my jeans.

I don't know guys, the leg opening on the BSP looks just about perfect to me. After shrinking it would probably be about the same as on my PBJs. But then again I have the opposite complaint with those jeans, the PBJs are perfect in the lower leg and too tight from the knee up. I guess we'll find out soon since I'm probably going to pull the trigger if SE ever gets in that restock.

I think I should get 32 but I'm not sure. Does the 3000 denim stretch a lot? The last thing I want is for these to get all saggy in the butt. I wear 31 in Samurai and PBJ, by the way.

Side note: What on earth does "BSP" stand for, anyway? Abbreviation for "Bespoke?" "Babzani Special Production?"

[llvlaglne]

you know.... now i'm curious what bsp means lol

[reallypeacedoff]

Bomb Shit Pussy... No joke!

[Teezy]

by selfedge production? blue special? hahaha

Edited January 17, 2012 by Teezy

[Adit]

just want to share my flat head 1001