WAYWT destroyed my life (2014)

[madame twerq]

its always about what white ppl r doin tho; i never see any talk of disrespect when japanese guys dress up like greasers.

i wonder if there's a complaint on a similar axis when japanese ppl borrow from chinese culture. like chinese sjws frothing about cultural appropriation in dynasty warriors and starting #boycottkoei campaigns.

[SSchadenfreude]

Bcuz it's an inherent jap trait to usually go hard 100%. It's basically the jap otaku mentality. alota japs who embrace a subculture or culture are lifers plus they do it harder w/ attention to minute details more than others. They show respect

B4 ww2 all the major azn countries influenced and "borrowed" from each other. Fact that china influenced other azn countries is a given cause of the old kingdoms long history. The boycotting campaigns are right wing, but ultimately serve a diff agenda

Edited April 22, 2014 by SSchadenfreude

[SSchadenfreude]

But 4 conversations sake, in a modern contxt let me know what Japan is borrowing from china as far as culture goes (besides the obv). Cause u seem 2 be confident in yr knowledge about such thing 4 a white invid who blood intermingled w/ cholas

[ProfMonnitoff]

the tumblr social justice crowd are completely ignorant of context and definitely get upset over some unimportant stuff but whenever theyre not busy making righteousness a competition their basic ideas are actually on point

everything is subjective and everything is allowed, ignorance is protected by freedom of expression etc, but everything also has consequences, most of us live in places where theres some amount of racial/religious tension involving brown ppl so it seems reasonable to avoid doing stuff that could add fuel to the fire, is anyones life really made much worse by not wearing a thing that has complicated (subjective but very real) meanings to a lot of people?

 

i can say with pretty good certainty that a lot of people would get upset if i walked around my area in a shawar kameez, most wouldnt say anything about it, but that doesnt mean i have to be a prick about my ~freedom of expression~ and the same probably applies to most people on here

[CASSAVA PIECE]

But 4 conversations sake, in a modern contxt let me know what Japan is borrowing from china as far as culture goes (besides the obv). Cause u seem 2 be confident in yr knowledge about such thing 4 a white invid who blood intermingled w/ cholas

ヤンキー座り

[madame twerq]

But 4 conversations sake, in a modern contxt let me know what Japan is borrowing from china as far as culture goes (besides the obv). Cause u seem 2 be confident in yr knowledge about such thing 4 a white invid who blood intermingled w/ cholas

i have no idea and i don't actually think that it is pertinent to the discussion.

 

the tumblr social justice crowd are completely ignorant of context and definitely get upset over some unimportant stuff but whenever theyre not busy making righteousness a competition their basic ideas are actually on point

everything is subjective and everything is allowed, ignorance is protected by freedom of expression etc, but everything also has consequences, most of us live in places where theres some amount of racial/religious tension involving brown ppl so it seems reasonable to avoid doing stuff that could add fuel to the fire, is anyones life really made much worse by not wearing a thing that has complicated (subjective but very real) meanings to a lot of people?

 

i can say with pretty good certainty that a lot of people would get upset if i walked around my area in a shawar kameez, most wouldnt say anything about it, but that doesnt mean i have to be a prick about my ~freedom of expression~ and the same probably applies to most people on here

 

context matters, i guess, and whether they're successfully utilizing it; basically whether or not you think it looks cool.

when thamanyah does a kandora, does the context change when compared to a kandora as a piece of cultural costume?

[SSchadenfreude]

ヤンキー座り

I really can't confirm this cause altho yankii and alota people do this it's not even called that. Sorry I actually also meant what have they borrowed in modern era

[llobey]

 

i can say with pretty good certainty that a lot of people would get upset if i walked around my area in a shawar kameez, most wouldnt say anything about it, but that doesnt mean i have to be a prick about my ~freedom of expression~ and the same probably applies to most people on here

 

it aint even got shit to do w/ freedom of expression

everyone wears it regardless of skin colour/religion in india n no one gives them crap cuz it aint some exclusive garb, same shit where i live

 

full disclosure i'm brown so dun go educatin me bout my own culture or sum bs

[roundhouse]

its always about what white ppl r doin tho; i never see any talk of disrespect when japanese guys dress up like greasers.

yep. this is where the sjw crowd, from what i've seen, miss out on. 

 

as i see it, the sjw's discontent arises from white culture (that is presently and historically dominant in terms of global reach etc.) converging upon ethnic cultures and sub-cultures arisen from struggles and conflict (i.e marginalized urban/street culture).

 

what is ignored in their analysis is the freedom in which non-white cultures adopt white cultures. this unquestioned freedom, or 'green light,' for appropriating the dominant culture actually legitimizes its dominance as the 'default' and objective culture for the world. with the privilege of being on top, you get to define what is normal and what is the 'invisible' choice. (similar to the concept of heterosexual privilege etc etc.)

 

and, as it follows, things sitting out from the dominant mainstream (like niche, sub/counter, ethnic culture) are deemed abnormal or 'odd' choices, especially for a white person -- all of which reinforce the top-down hierarchies in a very western dominated world. 

 

in a sense, it's all rather related to the scenarios where a person from a position of prestige 'degrades'  themselves by embodying things of a lower prestige. societal reactions to such scenarios are seldom pretty. imagine the backlash from these examples:

-prince harry sincerely dressing up in chav clothing for a tour of some country/local

-a man dressing up as a woman, with the forced effeminate voice and all

-a middle class white person trying to 'genuinely' speak in a black vernacular or street slang

Edited April 22, 2014 by roundhouse

[madame twerq]

-a man dressing up as a woman, with the forced effeminate voice and all

-a middle class white person trying to 'genuinely' speak in a black vernacular or street slang

compare & contrast with:

- tomboys and dfab transpeople

- "you're so articulate for a black man"

[roundhouse]

yup

just realised from ur avatar that ur on another board too

[madame twerq]

u post on vocaloidotaku too??

[SSchadenfreude]

i have no idea and i don't actually think that it is pertinent to the discussion.

That's ok, however I did say "4 conversation's sake" plus my post b4 that was very pertinent

[D.MAN.P]

why is it disrespectful? would you say it's disrespectful to wear a veil or other headwear that may be associated with a certain religion or region? 

 

virginia isn't inhabited by the mostly worldly people, so i've been mistaken for a muslim on several occasions due to my headscarves

Lol america. Probs not so ignorant in big cities but flyovers = clueless. In ohio ppl thought my nana was in hijab. She had a babushka on  

 

If u appear white then u white. No neo-nuremberg law charts used today, plus u in usa.

I wouldn't harass gaijin kimono girl, but it all really depends on how she was carrying herself. Was she weeaboo? Tryin 2 do chanoya, tryin 2 b the last geisha, etc? If so I'd condone the h8.

White..studying in jp..has a tumblr. Shes weeb. Not that it matters. If she has good reason (festivals, traditional wedding) who cares. If all she does is take pics of herself in it thats lame.

Foreign traditional dress has high potential of becoming aesthetically offensive doesnt offend me ethically tho. If i saw jp chicks dressed like dutch milkmaids id think it was weird. It would prob look bad but idgaf no point in gettin worked up, rly sad that there are ppl who get genuinely bitter or mad cuz theres white ppl wearin "their" stuff

[onek]

clothes

[SSchadenfreude]

White..studying in jp..has a tumblr. Shes weeb. Not that it matters. If she has good reason (festivals, traditional wedding) who cares. If all she does is take pics of herself in it thats lame.

Foreign traditional dress has high potential of becoming aesthetically offensive doesnt offend me ethically tho. If i saw jp chicks dressed like dutch milkmaids id think it was weird. It would prob look bad but idgaf no point in gettin worked up, rly sad that there are ppl who get genuinely bitter or mad cuz theres white ppl wearin "their" stuff

agreed. As I mentioned earlier it depends on the context. there are white people in jp wearing trad jap garb who I respect. They actually are acredited and do various cultural shit professionally. They studied that shit and show respect. Jap girls in dutchmaid garb is sorta ridic, but that shit has long b4 japa wearin it been appropriated internationally. That shit is public domain. Porn industry, theme restaurants, casinos, etc from many other countries and since the sixties have used such. The Japanese dutchmade cosplay is younger than this.

[daysofdane]

 

COS top / forever 21 skirt / acne boots

 

[daysofdane]

sorry for double post :'(

Edited April 22, 2014 by daysofdane

[e0d9n0b5]

 

sorry for double post :'(

 

apology accepted =]

[SSchadenfreude]

Ayo I like dat 4ever 21 skirt on u

[merz]

dane continues her adversarial relationship with pants

[madame twerq]

pants are oppressive tools of the patriarchy, i support all rebellions against bifurcated tyranny

[teddybonkers]

Rick and Julius

 

post a pic of the jkt buttoned up

[atm0sphere]

hello/badpic

 

 

ebbets/thrift/nudie/sebago

[hndlz]

[wilecoyote]

 

Visvim layers

[wilecoyote]

duplicate post

 

Edited April 22, 2014 by wilecoyote

[sunny D]

you could probably pull off a bindi too in suburbia and maybe even get suburb cred for it but thats not really a good measure of anything

Prof, i been getting so mad at how much this been going on in the london/uk. So many girls rocking it, but the main problem i have about it is the context they wear it in is completely disrespectful as well. The only girls i see doing it are ones in a dirty rave who take drugs and its some sort of thing that they think oo im quirky and long to be free. Lot of you guys seem to don't think its that bad? i just find it painful to see british insularity expand how can they not feel guilty about it

[carlanton]

[sunny D]

x9

Edited April 22, 2014 by sunny D