Ande Whall Denim

[mr.invincible]

how does ande whall denim compare to other denim brands? in essence what i am asking is which brand is closest to what the ande whall denim feels like

[TLCA]

just talked to ande today and he said in about 3 weeks he's switching to all Japanese denim. No more cone mills. What the biggest difference between Japanese and cone mills denim?

[JSFU]

what happened to the big surprise that was going to blow everything out the water?

[TLCA]

I have no idea guess it never happened or that was the suprise

[spacemanvt]

Ha ha, reminds of that really old thread titled " Bang, bang in my A.P.C's" ..the dude had machine guns and what not.

link plz or never happend

[nixon]

just talked to ande today and he said in about 3 weeks he's switching to all Japanese denim. No more cone mills. What the biggest difference between Japanese and cone mills denim?

Without knowing anything about the new denim he's using, I'd guess that the shipping costs are much cheaper from Japan compared to the US.

[kit99bar]

Cone Mill denim is known for being harder to fade also?

Without knowing anything about the new denim he's using, I'd guess that the shipping costs are much cheaper from Japan compared to the US.

[poly800rock]

whatever he does, I'm sure he's choosing a better denim. Ande isn't one to cut corners

[nixon]

For sure, I checked his site awhile back and was blown away by how many details he's added in the year since I bought a pair.

[guitarinet]

hey. i have a sizing question. i wear a 27x34 in the kmw rockers. should i get a size 30 for the rakers?

[ssheat]

I would say that you could go with a 28 for the sanforized pair, or a 29 for the shrink to fit pair. 30 would be a possibility for the shrink to fit, but they may end up being a tad bit big in the waist for your liking especially after some wear.

[poly800rock]

i went 1 up for STF and wish i went up 2

[b7ff]

Anyone want to sell your Raker sz. 30 or 31?? give me a pm..

[b7ff]

Guys I want to ask bout the fit on the Sanforized Raker... My true size is 30", however I want to buy size 31".... will the waist stretch much more?? Because if yes, then it will be disastrous for me... and will it fit like thin finn?? because currently im using Thinn Finn Dry Stretch size 30"...

And one more thing, what is the the difference between sanforized and STF (shrink to fit) denim??

Thanks guys..

[dawei69]

Ok, it's been discussed a zillion times....

1. no they dont stretch much like noobies

2. no they dont fit like thin finns.....

3. i'm not answering ur sizing question.....dont be lazy, read the thread.

Guys I want to ask bout the fit on the Sanforized Raker... My true size is 30", however I want to buy size 31".... will the waist stretch much more?? Because if yes, then it will be disastrous for me... and will it fit like thin finn?? because currently im using Thinn Finn Dry Stretch size 30"...

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And one more thing, what is the the difference between sanforized and STF (shrink to fit) denim??

Thanks guys..

[b7ff]

Ok, it's been discussed a zillion times....

1. no they dont stretch much like noobies

2. no they dont fit like thin finns.....

3. i'm not answering ur sizing question.....dont be lazy, read the thread.

Ok mate, take it easy...

I understand that for STF denim I need to size up by 1, as Ande recommends.. However for the sanforized we need to keep true to size right?!

My question is, if I size-up on the sanforized one, can it shrink just like the STF one... And, which type of denim do you guys reccommend more??

Sorry if Im too dumb, but im expecting you guys to help me here... thanks..

[baconzilla]

Ok mate, take it easy...

I understand that for STF denim I need to size up by 1, as Ande recommends.. However for the sanforized we need to keep true to size right?!

My question is, if I size-up on the sanforized one, can it shrink just like the STF one... And, which type of denim do you guys reccommend more??

Sorry if Im too dumb, but im expecting you guys to help me here... thanks..

STF = Shrink To Fit

Sanforized is preshrunk.

That means you should not size up on sanforized denim because it will not shrink. Please look up the meanings of the words before you ask.

[dawei69]

Ok let's just put u out of your miserable... and safe ande some trouble.

these are for sanforised denim:

if u get rakers, size up 1 from ur true size

if u get grifter, go TTS

for STF, poly800rock recommends sizing up 2 instead of one, hence:

if u get rakers, size up 3.

if u get grifter, size up 2.

Nudies are vanity sized. hence sz30 =31!

SAN: for rakers get 32.

grifters get 31

STF : rakers get 33

grifters get 32

by the way, my TTS grifters are skinnier than my thin finns.

[andewhall]

Hi guys. Anyone can e-mail me directly of course, I answer all e-mails about sizing, what style would suit you best, whats the weather up too etc.....I just stopped replying to the "Yoooo! how do I get into the denimzzz game" ones.

To answer some frequent questions. The SZ denim is sold out and won't be re-stocked. There is still the XX-DI and the SZ-BK denim left although not many pairs left on both rolls. Then I will be switching to just one really nice 14.5oz, sanforized dark indigo denim from Japan. A couple of construction details will change also.

I won't be doing black denim again for a while, so if anyone wants those, you best grab some in the next 2-3 weeks.

[destructodisk]

so glad i copped black rakers now that i know they won't be around for long. can't wait to get them!! i'll def. post up some pics once they arrive

[baconzilla]

Slackers 2 months getting a little softer.

[b7ff]

^^

Woahhh... VERY VERY nice...

Nice fit, and an absolutely beautiful jeans!! That black denim is very2 beautiful...

[poly800rock]

yeah.......those look killer. i would have picked up a pair of black whalls if i didn't have a pair of W+H blacks i'm working on.

[Mdkt07]

Poly,

how's the denim on your STFs breaking in compared to the sanforized grifters?

[poly800rock]

the STF is MUCH darker than the sanforized denim. I love my pair, although I've been eating too much and stretch isn't as bad on the STF. I forgot how long it takes for Andewhall denim to fade, I've been wearing them everyday or so for 2 months now and hardly put a dent in them. These are always an interesting denim to break in, should be interesting to see how the ande's japanese denim holds up next to the american cone denim of my pair.

[evisu 2000]

slept on blacks

[wheelsx45]

So do I read correctly, there will only be one jean which is the sanforized Japanese denim? Will there be a STF japan denim also?

[Double D]

Ande Whall Rakers, 26x34, 33 months, some washes and stuff.

[lance]

^ Very Nice!

[beatle]

rep if I could*****