Samurai Jeans

[beautiful_FrEaK]

I still think a size down to 28 would work on your frame judging by the pre-soak pics of your size 29.

 

Just like the others already said, as your and everyone’s body is different, you probably won’t achieve the same fit as Airfred.

 

The most important part is that you get a fit you like wearing and you are confident wearing it. Like Artisandenim said. The nicest denim won’t be worn (enough) when you don’t like the fit in the end. It won’t make you happy. You may like the 710XX and also the fit others achieved with this cut but that will not guarantee you happiness when you wear them.

 

And I still stand by my opinion that a model with a lower rise would look better./cleaner in the seat area.

 

How far away are you located from BiG? Maybe you can go there personally  (or SE for example) to try on different cuts and brands to see what works better on your frame.

Edited April 30, 2014 by beautiful_FrEaK

[zwer]

Shameless plug: my Lot 14 710xx size 36 are now for sale.

 

http://supertalk.superfuture.com/index.php/topic/155565-fs-samurai-710xx-lot-14-size-36/

[naniwa]

I have a plan to buy s5000vx 21oz at BIG, but i'm a little bit confused with the size..

My actual waist is 34" ..

 

should i take size 33 with 34.25" waist, or size 34 with 35.5" waist ??

which one is better ?? thanks

[ColdsnapBryan]

You guys sure like tight top blocks  

[pierrot_bzh]

Naniwa,

 

I got a S5000VX 21oz TTS in 32. In my opinion, TTS is great if you plan to wash it often (which is my case as I'm not a really huge fan of very contrasted fades...) and if you also like a more relaxed fit. If you plan on keeping them for a long time without touching water, I think you could size down one because those stretch a bit (will try to measure them later today...).

 

Hope this helps, even if I'm sure that someone over here will have more accurate advice on how to size them (and if you look at the 1st page of this topics, there's a sizing guide pretty usefull   )

[ColdStorage]

In my experience, frequency of wash has less to do with shrink-intensity than which drying method is used. I'm pretty sure its the hot tumble dry that really shrinks them down and locks that shrink in. I wash my 710s relatively frequently, but I hang dry all my jeans, and at this point and the waist is 1" ABOVE the raw measurement (tagged 33, started at 34", now measures 35"...) The S5000VX doesn't use the 19oz denim though, so my information may not be helpful here...

 

Bottom line, either size will probably work for you in my opinion - just a matter of if you want a more relaxed fit.

[Projectp]

I sized down 1 on my pair of 21oz. S5000VX and couldn't be more pleased with the decision. Initially had a one wash pair TTS, but after a few days wearing them around the house I went back to BiG and made the swap. They've had an initial soak, and then a hot machine wash 3 weeks ago after 3+ months of daily wear. The fit feels great. They've stretched out a bit but they don't feel like they've gone all the way back to raw sizing. I can post measurements if you'd like.

[pierrot_bzh]

Well, just measured mine. Tag size is 32 and after few months with several washes, they're 33". I think I could have size down one as ColdStorage and Pojectp said, but I still do love the fit I have with those. And I do also agree with Cold on the drying method as mine did the same as his ones (actual size above tag size) with the same drying (hang dry). So yeah, probably more a question about the fit you want in those ones.

[CJ23]

Does anyone know if And-Japan Samurai are one wash or do they sell them raw ? Thanks

[Max Power]

They should be raw, as Samurai's normally don't come onewash, except the store does that for you. To my knowledge, denimio doesn't.

[CJ23]

Thanks Max. I thought I saw where a few people said Pirates sells them that way so I wasn't sure if most places in Japan do the same.

Edited May 1, 2014 by CJ23

[Robert Langdon]

Anyone know if you can can order direct from the samurai online shop? I'm from The US btw.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

usually you can't. but basically 2nd has the whole Samurai stock

but if you a depserate you need a proxy like Sutocorp or the like

 

edit. and Yuichi can get everything from Samurai stock. He organized the S553 for me from their online store

Edited May 1, 2014 by beautiful_FrEaK

[Robert Langdon]

@bf

Thanks. Maybe I'll email Yuichi. I'm looking at either the 711vx or the 298 710vx from unique jeans.jp on the samurai blog. The Jin buttons and selvedge on the inside of the button fly so sick. Contrast arcs on both pairs.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

The 711vx will be released at the end of July and usually should be available at every store that pre-ordered them. So Yuichi can get that for you.

The 298 can only be bought at the store which made the collab (DelBombers like it seems), just like you can only buy the Red Hawk and the like at BiG.

 

The 711 already available for pre-order at 2ND

http://www.e2nd.net/br-sj/sj-411-02-f/sj-s711vx.html

 

edit:

298 already avaiable as it seems?!

http://the-warriors.ocnk.net/product/80

Edited May 1, 2014 by beautiful_FrEaK

[cmo]

Are the 711 a slimmer fit than the 710?

[bradl]

That 298 is interesting. Never heard of that model before, neither 3292xx or M310xx. What's deal with these ones?

[beautiful_FrEaK]

^^ slimmer in the thighs but a straight cut with no real taper (check measuremnts)

 

@bradl: those are just collabs with certain shops

[Max Power]

The 711 looks just like I imagined the BiG710, but unfortunately the thighs are pretty small (too small). It does not read limited edition, if I'm right, but the upside-down "A" would suggest that. I'd love to give them a try, but would need real measurements first.

[Cold Summer]

The 711VX has a lower rise than the S710, that's disappointing.  I think it's the longer rise + narrow and slightly tapered leg that makes the S710 such a good fit in the first place.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

^^ it's a new fit. but always the first edition/batch has the upside down A...only if they get a rerun in another year they will get the regular tab

[Robert Langdon]

Taking a second look i don't think either if those cuts will work for me. Kinda sucks. Guess j have to wait for another s0500 collab. Have they ever made a 17oz version of the s0500? I've searched but nothing came up...

[beautiful_FrEaK]

they didn't

only a real 0500 cut with 21oz denim.

 

and yeah..I already thought that the 711 won't work for you

[Robert Langdon]

@bf

Yeah. Ever since I got my 500s I've been having complex samurai fantasies.

Pretty sure I'm not alone here:

500VX

19oz waist band and inside button fly selvedge on both sides

Lemon contrast arcs over fader arcs

Black patch

Offset belt loop

Bartack instead of hidden rivets

Silver chainstitch if that's at all possible

It'll probably never happen though

[Quoise1203]

Samurai 0553x. Although it does have quite a bit of contrast, the contrast is somehow a little exaggerated even though I didn't make any adjustments to the picture. I like you can see that the button inside the right cuff is totally rusted.

 

[fishtacologin]

Does anyone have any experience with ONI 517XX? How does the denim compare to the Samurai 710XX? Is it slubbier / harrier? 

[Max Power]

The Oni looks (I haven't touched it) a bit slubbier and irregular / rough on the surface. But they are not that far apart as other Oni fabrics.

[themaster]

fuck711

[themaster]

ehats the cut on the new jin 100?

[tigerstrom]

I've just decided to make my 710s the first pair that I will wash once a month. On all my other pairs I've waited for atleast 5-6 months before the first wash. Washed them today and they actually show some nice fades. I really like the look of frequently washed denim so I'm excited!