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Not sure if you guys have seen this, but thought I'd post it. This guy has a pair of the 1880's Levis that he apparently took out a loan to buy.

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My old LVC 1947 555 501's from the 90's worn and repaired multiple times. They were my first pair of LVC denim so trying to keep them repaired and in service.

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Just some picks of my LVC 1944 501's. The painted arcuates have pretty much faded away.

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Someone loosely translated it for me, saying he took out a loan to buy them, but could make a huge profit if he sold. Form what I can tell, it looks like he paid 400,000 yen for the 1880's, but they are worth 1,400,000 yen? That's about $15,000. Edit: That doesn't seem like much considering Levis paid something like $50K of the oldest pair?

I like how they point out that his clothes take up about 5x as much space as his wife's.

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There is an intriguing philosophical question here.

Which product embodies an old jean better - one made by the original company, with denim made by the original supplier, which is inconsistent like the original, with mistakes like the original made to a price? (I can't remember specifically, but I wonder if they only give us hand-hammered rivets on some modesl due to budgetary reasons).

Or a hand-made replica produced in Japan, with even the tiniest details correct?

Personally, one thing I'd like to see more of on this thread is good worn-in examples of some of the better Warehouse and SC replicas.

Heres my retired 1001xx's. Easily the best pair of jeans I have ever owned.. wish they didn't stop making them.

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And another wash of my 44's, these are going on the backburner for awhile so they don't completely fall apart

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There is an intriguing philosophical question here.

Which product embodies an old jean better - one made by the original company, with denim made by the original supplier, which is inconsistent like the original, with mistakes like the original made to a price? (I can't remember specifically, but I wonder if they only give us hand-hammered rivets on some modesl due to budgetary reasons).

Or a hand-made replica produced in Japan, with even the tiniest details correct?

I just brought this up because it seems like they love our product (well Cone's product atleast) and we seem to covet theirs too. The heritage aspect that you guys mentioned is surely the reason behind the move but I just thought it unusual after all these years that LVCjp would all the sudden make a change, why not do this before now? I suppose it could be that they are becomeing more profitable (as more folks get into this type of product) and can therefore afford the denim they believe should be used (for heritage reasons). Or like was mentioned before, the company may just be streamlining (XX Amsterdam). In the end it doesn't matter to me, I'm not really a purest and had actually planned on purchaseing atleast a few of the japanese models if for no other reason than I liked the attention to detail.

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They did have arcs and a red tab(see pic) arcs are pretty much gone and there is only a little piece of the red tab left which you can barely see. They were bought off hinoya ages ago, I think they were around 250 give or take 20 bucks. Memphis cotton. Denim is definitely heavier than my 44's and gives a more contrasty streakier fade. Also the WH have a bit more of a vintage looking yellowish tinge when faded.

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I just thought it unusual after all these years that LVCjp would all the sudden make a change, why not do this before now?

THis is more like a reversion to how they used to do it. All the LVC used to be made in America with Cone denimm from the 20s on, as a joint venture between the US, EUopre and Levi's Japan ... then Levi's Japan started augmenting the range with their own models, some of which were Cone denim. Later still they started to source their denim from Japan too - this coincided with time when LVC seemed a bit rudderless. In many respects, this is like a return to the days of the old Levi's premium, when the same people looked after LVC and the RED range (the ones who produced the first Engineered jeans, some of which later turned into mass-market products).

Hysteric, nice jeans, thanks for the info. I too like denim which fades to an off-white; much of the LVC fades to a very bright white, I thought perhaps because they were bleaching it but apparently not, that's just how the cotton comes in.

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funny, the "long red tab" reminds of those of japan repros, didn´t know that original vintage levi´s had these stretched tabs...

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Personally, one thing I'd like to see more of on this thread is good worn-in examples of some of the better Warehouse and SC replicas.

I'm with you on this. I love the arcs and tabs but I'm tempted to get a SC or Warehouse 66 model as I'm not crazy about Levi's arcs on that model. Those two companies seem like the best Japanese makers. The prices have kept me from trying them. LVC prices are silly enough for jeans. I'm personally not an authenticity nut I just want to wear actual jeans and not the silly sham they pass off to the public as jeans these days.

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There is an intriguing philosophical question here.

Which product embodies an old jean better - one made by the original company, with denim made by the original supplier, which is inconsistent like the original, with mistakes like the original made to a price? (I can't remember specifically, but I wonder if they only give us hand-hammered rivets on some modesl due to budgetary reasons).

Or a hand-made replica produced in Japan, with even the tiniest details correct?

Personally, one thing I'd like to see more of on this thread is good worn-in examples of some of the better Warehouse and SC replicas.

It's indeed a philosophical question and I guess there won't be a wrong or right. I can compare with my 47's Sugar Canes vs. my 47's LVC. The SC's are 4sure higher quality , the denim is much more fat and hairy and the cut is much more vintage like. Various different cotton threads, selfedge seams on the pocket fabrics and other details make this jean a high end, handmade japanese jean. You can feel the love for being authentic on them:

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The LVC is more simple in the details, the denim has a more flat aspect and the cut is far more modern, at least on the sizing I've done (tts):

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Most guys sized down their jean in the late 40's/ 50's, I'm sure LVC tried to give their 47's the idea of this style by cutting them tighter than the original. I like both kinds, the LVC gives you a more authentic feeling due to the LEVIs tab and so, but the SC's are a lot more true to the original imo.

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The pocket fabrics is one area where SC are far ahead of LVC - the Levi's linings are a disgrace. Hard to compare like with like but the originals don't seem to disintegrate so quickly.

SC use cotton thread, too, where LVC use polycore; they made the decision to do so on the grounds of sourcing and reliability, but it does make a difference to how it fades. The fact that SC denim is heavier weight, or hairier, doesn't make it more authentic; hairy denim on Levi's seems to apply more to the 70s and especially 80s cotton, which was a shorter staple.

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funny, the "long red tab" reminds of those of japan repros, didn´t know that original vintage levi´s had these stretched tabs...

As far as I can remember, the earlier two-sided tab had the same style apostraphy (small '/') between the I and the E in LEVI'S, as the original one sided one. But at some point in the early sixties, the tab font/size and tape colour changed, and the apostaphy changed to a comma shape.

LVC seem to have copied the latter even for their pre-55 models, which seems a bit lazy when you see a pic of an original pre-1960 model like that.

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SC use cotton thread, too, where LVC use polycore; they made the decision to do so on the grounds of sourcing and reliability, but it does make a difference to how it fades.

This is one of those things that really sucks, I mean cotton thread should be used simple as that.. come on, Levis could make that happen. I hate that poly bullshit !

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