Denime

[Ciabatta]

On 3/7/2026 at 6:15 PM, nick682 said:

Do you have any other Denime jeans? I'm not sure if I should get the same size as my other Denime pairs or size down 1. I'm really hoping I can come across a size 31 or 32 with a 30 inseam. Seems like they're sold out everywhere in a 30 length though.

I'm generally always against sizing down. I'd just take your same size as the other pais unless your thighs can fit into something smaller. 

[beautiful_FrEaK]

A beautiful pair right here, Toyko model deadstock:

https://www.fromjapan.co.jp/japan/en/special/order/confirm/https%3A%2F%2Fjp.mercari.com%2Fitem%2Fm84829266843/13_1/

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Lost this auction by 550 Yen 😢

https://www.fromjapan.co.jp/japan/en/auction/yahoo/input/e1223103565/

[fhygom]

On 3/1/2026 at 10:43 AM, fhygom said:

I’ve bought the 221 big E in size 36. I am 36 in sugar and other brands, so thought this would be the right size. After two soaks in my tub, 2nd one in quite hot water (no soap), they still haven’t shrunk as much as I’d like. I could use another 2-3 cm in the waist. 

What is the next step? Throw them in the washer on 40c ? Or even 60c? Use a little soap?
 

I unfortunately have bad experience with the washer as I put my sugar cane 47 in the washer and they came out with a lot of creases (spin at 600. Thought that was low). Should I turn spin off entirely?

Washed them inside out and they did shrink a bit more, but unfortunately still too big in the waist. If anyone is after a pair of 221 Big E in size 36, then please let me know. I am EU based and would prefer to ship within EU.

[Maynard Friedman]

On 4/25/2023 at 12:39 PM, Maynard Friedman said:

I picked up this unusual deadstock raw pair from Yahoo auctions last month and have discussed them a little with @beautiful_FrEaK but they’re still a bit of a mystery.

They’re Orizzonti era, pre-1998 and although the weight is unknown, I’d say about 13.5oz. They have a paper patch and rounded front pocket rivets (with varying degrees of oxidisation) with aluminium backs and no coin pocket selvedge, which I think indicates a 66 style. But they also have a v-stitch, hidden rivets and offset belt loop, which are more commonly found on XX models, so adds to the confusion and makes them something of a hybrid pair. They also have red selvedge!

Measurements (BiG style), size 32:

• Waist - 33”
• Front rise - 12.25”
• Back rise - 16.5”
• Thigh - 14” (yes, 14!)
• Inseam - 39”
• Hem - 9”

Colour is a little light in the photos.

I posted this pair of red selvedge Denime from the Orizzonti era I bought a few years ago and there was basically no information about them available.

Today, idly browsing Yahoo auctions, I found these pairs for sale, all with red selvedge and paper patch (although missing on 2 pairs). The internal back pocket tags, (where available) display Orizzonti ownership and all the descriptions on Yahoo state early Orizzonti. The only difference I can see is that mine have silver backs on the front pocket rivets while 2 of these pairs have copper backs, although the other 2 also have silver backs (not gorillas).

Anyway, here are the links for anyone interested, they’re referred to as early red ear/selvedge paper patch XX, which I think @bod may have previously mentioned:

Exhibit A

Exhibit B

Exhibit C

Exhibit D

[Sympathy-For-The-Denim]

Hi there,

I am selling these Denime Orizzonti era which the D-HG1118 indicates

Anyways I´d love to find these in the right size since I do love the straight loose fit, the blue of denim and the big back pockets. But what model are these?

https://www.ebay.de/itm/327088361529

Edited August 28 by Sympathy-For-The-Denim

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Denime 101B

 

There is a matching jacket on ebay UK right now...

[yung_flynn]

@beautiful_FrEaK A couple of W34 Kyoto pairs - one from Orizzonti and the other from Shins (with original pocket flasher). Both are pricey for the wear though. The measured waist seems smaller than I would expect. My W33 pair is 40 cm laid flat.

DENIME 90s～00s 京都モデル セルビッジデニム W34 item details | Mercari JP | One Map by FROM JAPAN

希少　旧ドゥニーム DENIME 京都モデル KYOTO W34 L36 item details | Mercari JP | One Map by FROM JAPAN

I've been pulling mine out recently now that the weather is warmer here and enjoying them as a slimmer change of pace.

[winteracr]

220A with relatively modest fading compared to some of the crazier examples. Worn over a year, maybe 4 months total wear? 1 initial soak + 1 tub wash.

Tailored them pre-wear to un-taper them.

[Well27]

The 220xx-54 is stated as 14 oz, is that before or after shrinking?

I’ve found the raw version, which shrink to tag size i guess? I’m w34 in sugarcane, so is it a good bet to take w34 for the 220xx-54?

[PBTony]

45 minutes ago, Well27 said:

The 220xx-54 is stated as 14 oz, is that before or after shrinking?

I’ve found the raw version, which shrink to tag size i guess? I’m w34 in sugarcane, so is it a good bet to take w34 for the 220xx-54?

The 220xx54 is 14 oz after washing. It shrinks to tag size and @Alec Leamashad some helpful measurements of his 54 and 47 size 34s a few pages back which should help

[PBTony]

On 8/30/2025 at 11:36 AM, Alec Leamas said:

@PrettyBoyTony

Hopefully you can pick out the numbers on the tape there. 

More faded pair on left is the 47. One detail I prefer is the rear pocket design on them. Overall I think I prefer the 47, but I do like both.

Basically, waist is slightly bigger on the 54’s front and back rise lower, and have less taper than the 47’s (23cm vs 22cm at 70cm inseam). The thigh is actually the same on both, but the rise makes the fit different of course.

If you’re in the market for a 47 cut my honest recommendation is the WH DD1001XX 47’s. However, these do come in a close second.

 

@Well27 . I got the 33s and they shrank more than i thought they would so i sold them. I should have got the 34s. My SCs 66 are a 33 and so are my Fullcounts if that helps 

[Well27]

@PrettyBoyTony, thanks!

my FC are s35, so I think I’ll go for the w36.

[PBTony]

6 hours ago, Well27 said:

@PrettyBoyTony, thanks!

my FC are s35, so I think I’ll go for the w36.

Hey @Well27 definitely worth double checking the measurements. The 54 have a slightly bigger waist than 47. The waist on my 47 shrank down fine it's just that they got too slim in the leg for my taste. 54 probably would have been a better cut for me. Hope they work out well if you get them. The denim is super nice 

[Alec Leamas]

21 hours ago, Well27 said:

The 220xx-54 is stated as 14 oz, is that before or after shrinking?

I’ve found the raw version, which shrink to tag size i guess? I’m w34 in sugarcane, so is it a good bet to take w34 for the 220xx-54?

My suggestion would be to go by measurements rather than tagged size, I have always found that I am a 34 in Warehouse / current Denime, whereas I am 32 in most other repro brands.

[Well27]

@Alec Leamas Great advise and measurements, leaning towards the 47 now which don’t seem to be in stock.

[Alec Leamas]

They do get restocks now and again so you should be okay before long. I will say that the Warehouse DD-1001XX 47 is pretty good too and very similar in dimensions, which will also be out of stock I imagine but there you've got 2 solid options to seek out!

EDIT: this one https://www.ware-house.co.jp/?pid=109364377
Apologies for posting a Warehouse pair in the Denime thread, but what's the difference these days I suppose!!!

Edited June 12 by Alec Leamas

[indigoeagle]

1 hour ago, Alec Leamas said:

They do get restocks now and again so you should be okay before long. I will say that the Warehouse DD-1001XX 47 is pretty good too and very similar in dimensions, which will also be out of stock I imagine but there you've got 2 solid options to seek out!

EDIT: this one https://www.ware-house.co.jp/?pid=109364377
Apologies for posting a Warehouse pair in the Denime thread, but what's the difference these days I suppose!!!

That is probably something everyone has experienced who has looked into WH offerings and then decided to buy something, and then it is nowhere to be found. And sometimes you have to wait for two years. Of course, then of after a year or so of waiting you buy something else and then the item you had originally coveted shows up.

[Well27]

11 hours ago, Alec Leamas said:

They do get restocks now and again so you should be okay before long. I will say that the Warehouse DD-1001XX 47 is pretty good too and very similar in dimensions, which will also be out of stock I imagine but there you've got 2 solid option

Awesome, I’ll see which one will become available first

Edited June 13 by Well27

[Alec Leamas]

12 hours ago, indigoeagle said:

That is probably something everyone has experienced who has looked into WH offerings and then decided to buy something, and then it is nowhere to be found. And sometimes you have to wait for two years. Of course, then of after a year or so of waiting you buy something else and then the item you had originally coveted shows up.

Ha yeah this is absolutely the classic WH experience!

[Broark]

Anyone seen the Denime 220X-S WWII jeans still floating around in Japan?
I also see where they're shipping out some of the vacuum sealed 220A XX's with the closure of the Kurabo Anjo plant.
Might be mistaken but I think they were also going to release another vacuum sealed model but I don't think there was any mention of what it would be when originally announced.

[nick682]

2 hours ago, Broark said:

Anyone seen the Denime 220X-S WWII jeans still floating around in Japan?
I also see where they're shipping out some of the vacuum sealed 220A XX's with the closure of the Kurabo Anjo plant.
Might be mistaken but I think they were also going to release another vacuum sealed model but I don't think there was any mention of what it would be when originally announced.

I've searched quite a bit for my size of the 220X-S and I've had no luck. 

Withered Fig has several sizes but I'm looking for the 30" inseam. 

Edited June 25 by nick682

[CSL]

I don't know about that model specifically, but Standard and Strange had Denime on their shelves when I was there a few days back. The brand doesn't appear to be on their website yet so might be worth giving them a call.

[dennnnnnnnn]

https://www.fromjapan.co.jp/japan/en/special/order/confirm/barbizon:10008856/2_1/

 

came across a vacuum sealed 30th anniversary pair for a great price, waist is 28

[Well27]

Based on the great info and advise (thx @Alec Leamas and @PBTony) in this thread, I purchased the 220xx-47.

From the measurements, I decided to go one size up to w36 - I'm probably also increasing in size of lately.

The jeans will be my own mini-contest, as I'm currently on parental leave and will wear these as much as possible during the leave and see how they turn out

Currently the temperatures in Denmark are too warm to wear jeans, so looking forward to a slight drop in temperature.

The classical before:

and after the first wash:

 

 

 

Edited July 13 by Well27
To add photos

[beautiful_FrEaK]

A pair I always wanted to add...

https://zenmarket.jp/de/auction.aspx?itemCode=s1236939107

Not sure I want to buy new jeans though. Damn

[PBTony]

1 hour ago, Well27 said:

Based on the great info and advise (thx @Alec Leamas and @PBTony) in this thread, I purchased the 220xx-47.

From the measurements, I decided to go one size up to w36 - I'm probably also increasing in size of lately.

The jeans will be my own mini-contest, as I'm currently on parental leave and will wear these as much as possible during the leave and see how they turn out

Currently the temperatures in Denmark are too warm to wear jeans, so looking forward to a slight drop in temperature.

The classical before:

and after the first wash:

 

 

 

Those look great! Looking forward to the updates 

[Abochka]

14 hours ago, beautiful_FrEaK said:

A pair I always wanted to add...

https://zenmarket.jp/de/auction.aspx?itemCode=s1236939107

Not sure I want to buy new jeans though. Damn

What is the a-type? Never heard of this variant. Do you know about it? Back pockets look unique/unusual. 

[beautiful_FrEaK]

I might find a better explanation but I always connected it with the 60s era when you had Levi's 501 jeans and those had some letters on the patch. Like A or S

[Dr_Heech]

4 hours ago, beautiful_FrEaK said:

I might find a better explanation but I always connected it with the 60s era when you had Levi's 501 jeans and those had some letters on the patch. Like A or S

If it's any help, on original vintage Levis 501 jeans, l'm certain that the A, S, F and l letters are just the Distribution centre initials. Cannot remember what the different abbreviations stand for, but @Denimseeker stated his case in a post sometime back on instagram and it made total sense to me (will have a look back later and see if l can find it and a timeline).

Basically what l am saying is to forget the A,S,F,l abbreviations as the single letter stamp doesn't make any difference to the details of the jeans at all, as the factory stamps and matching 'SF 207' wash tags determine the details, not the Dc stamps.

It may not be of any relevance however 😅