UES Denim

[lsaylor]

thx, for the heads up. 

[kss447]

A package came today.

Lots of cool stuff inside. First up, a pair of 400T. Forgot to take presoak measurements, I just went ahead and chucked them in for a hot wash (oops). They are drying now. Here's my presoak fit.

Also got a flannel. Unfortunately, I think I got one size too big. What do you guys think?

Oh, and some other goodies.

[pudaspriest]

Flannel looks a sort of big but not in a bad way imo. It depends on how you like your clothes to fit, my flannel is a kind of big as well but I prefer a bit too large to a little too tight.  I often layer underneath so a bit of room is welcome for me. 

[Max Power]

Until I scrolled down to the arms I thought the flannel looks great. My FH and IH flannels did shrink a good amount with frequent washing - if that happens on UES as well, I think you'll be fine.

[itsbenhere]

If the chest is too big, definitely you need a size down.

 

If the chest is spot on, then should just sell it and move on, because imo no size will work.

[Geeman]

Looks like you'll need a lot of shrinkage in the jeans. You could get away with the shirt if you fold back the cuff. Looks OK in the body

[Max Power]

^I concur. Didn't mind to comment on the jeans' fit (as they were already in the washer), but I fear they won't shrink enough to give the desired fit.

[kss447]

You are correct, they didn't shrink enough. I overestimated what size I would need. This is unfortunate.

Damn, sizing sucks.

[kss447]

Post-wash measurements (BiG style)

Waist - 17"

Rise - 11"

Thigh - 13.25"

Knee - 9"

Leg opening - 8"

Inseam - 30.5"

These are way too large on me in the top block. I think I will try to exchange the flannel for one size down and attempt to sell these jeans. Unfortunate I decided to hem them, it will make it harder to resell.

This seems to be a case of me getting too excited and ordering what I thought would work instead of sitting down and crunching numbers. A shame, but not the end of the world.

Edited September 22, 2015 by kss447

[Chubacca]

Does anyone have the UES Dobby shirt? Care to comment?

[itsbenhere]

I would bet that if you bought the size that had (pre-soak) had the waist measure that you want post-soak, they could work well.

 

I always try and get jeans to fit right or *slightly* loose in the waist while being very comfortable in the thighs pre-soak. Works for me...

[exaptavist]

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Edited October 20, 2015 by hoggreaser

[kss447]

Same size as my 103s, both 33. Honestly I saw Tion's measurements, assumed they were measured BiG style (my fault), and just ordered them without doing enough research first.

Anyone want a fresh pair of UES? Ha.

[exaptavist]

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Edited October 10, 2015 by hoggreaser

[tion4->]

Jeez that's too bad man. To be honest, mine didn't look far off what yours looked pre-soak. Which is why I machine washed them at 70degrees, let them tumblr around at scalding temperatures for 90 min. They shrunk a LOT.

Looks like you have a size 33? Did you soak or wash? I think there's a lot of shrinkage left in those. Check my post wash measurements on the last page, no reason you can't get that too. Not much to lose by giving them a ridiculously hot machine wash...you think that'll harm resale value further?

[tion4->]

Same size as my 103s, both 33. Honestly I saw Tion's measurements, assumed they were measured BiG style (my fault), and just ordered them without doing enough research first.

Anyone want a fresh pair of UES? Ha.

Ya, must be so frustrating! My measurements are BiG style. I was surprised how much shrinkage I got. I reckon I still could have gone a size down, but they're pretty good now.

[kss447]

I gave them a hot wash, at least the hot setting on the washer at my laundromat. Perhaps something was screwy, the washing machines are very old.. I will give them another hot wash tomorrow and see what happens.

[kss447]

Thanks for all the input/condolences guys!

[Cucoo]

So regarding the heavy flannel shirt, did you guys go by the size chart on the official shop (http://ues.shop.japaneseselvagejeans.com/goods.php?tsuka_conv=EUR&lang_id=en&goods_id=722) and how reliable are those measurements? If going by chest alone it'd mean really long sleeves and a really long shirt overall, seems kinda weird because those numbers don't look like a Japanese shirt at all. Way too long in the body for my taste.

[Chubacca]

Go by Rivet and Hides measurements, they are accurate.

[Geeman]

^^This. R&H measurements are accurate to my UES. They are known for their shirts being sized to western body types so don't go with your usual japanese sizing method.

[Cucoo]

Thanks, that's helpful! And that's too bad about the sizing, but I guess I could get whatever fits me in chest and shoulders and have it shortened.

[bugula]

not sure if this is helpful but i'm a large (RRL) and xl (RgT) in american shirts and went with a 5 in the heavy flannel. it's big on me, not overly so but it did make me order another in a 4 to see what that fit is like. i could stand to lose 1.5-2" in the chest of the 5 so i think the 4 is a better bet.

[Chubacca]

I wear an xl in rgt and got a 4 in ues. It fits like a glove

[Cucoo]

I'm a M in 95% of all shirts and I was thinking about going with a 2.

[UkeNo]

Cucoo,

Bear in that the FW 13/14 shirts had a different sizing from this season (15/16)and last 14/15. The sizes were quite a small fit when Rivet and Hide got their first batch in FW 13/14. Since then the cut/sizing has been slightly bigger per model (2,3,4 etc) and fits more correctly in my opinion.

My 13/14 shirt is a size 3 and is quite slim fitting.

This season and last I could happily wear a size 2 for a fitted look and a 3 for layering underneath.

I also feel that there's a reasonable amount of shrink to be had if needed from these. They are Sanforized but a hot wash will reduce them if needed.

Go by Rivet and Hides sizing. It's accurate.

A size 2 should fit you well from what I can tell.

(For ref: I'm 6', 80kg with 40" chest)

Edited September 26, 2015 by UkeNo

[Cucoo]

Great, thanks! Yeah, I guess size 2 is my best bet.

 

Now, big bummer, but UES seems to only ship via EMS, and the German logistics partner for EMS is pretty horrible, I've had really bad experiences in the past (takes ages to pass customs, they charge ludicrous extra fees besides VAT and the delivery company is really slow, too). Meh.

[UkeNo]

Suto Corp as Proxy  - sure you can choose or request courier with them. 

[Geeman]

Cuckoo I'm a M in most western fits went a size 3 in UES and fit's bang on

[beautiful_FrEaK]

@Cucoo 

Do you mean GDSK? That only applies to orders via EMS from China!

If you order from Japan the EMS package will go right to DHL Express. Sure customs still take their time but that's the problem of the customs office. And no additional fees besides custom fees and VAT.