Levi's Vintage Clothing

[Dr_Heech]

1 hour ago, Maynard Friedman said:

Does that link show photos of the original or the repro? 

To be clear, the belt loop issue relates to the method of attachment AND the placement?

To me at least, it looks like the repro with poly stitching and shiny rivets.

Yes and yes.

Let's hope more photos surface so we can take a closer look(?)

Edited Thursday at 08:51 AM by Dr_Heech
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[Sympathy-For-The-Denim]

@Dr_Heech

I would have thought the photos show the originals, but maybe its a sample garment from the LVCs LVC archive  

the pair in the link feature flattened an slightly oxidized rivets, they appear to be washed once, the cloth patch show subtle fading, while the jackets button show some wear and some brownish tint next to the button, which could be just dirt or rust from the metal parts. the yoke panels aren't meeting perfectly well, a detail that sugar cane reproduced just recently I guess...

and since these are early 1920s repros,  when belt loops first appeared with in the Levi's range, it's not unlikely that there had very early versions been made with such details, maybe the pair is a original sample from the era and thus never seen before...

anyways I am not an LVC influencer 😀

Edited Thursday at 06:14 PM by Sympathy-For-The-Denim

[reubensangwich]

11 hours ago, Dr_Heech said:

Where is the archive specimen ??

From your link, I can only see images of the already discussed repro and a few pics of an og 213 jacket - where Interestingly the buttons are different from the repro jacket, so the artistic license already kicking in imo.

Lets be clear, that belt loop feature was only used on the rear centre beltloops of 501XX jeans circa 1935/36. Even the way the belt loop is constructed looks way off for any vintage pair of levis so l'm still not convinced in the slightest. 

Assuming those photos are of the original piece, is it possible the belt loops were added by a tailor? It could explain the issues with construction and location, although tucking the belt loops into the waistband as they are is probably not a very viable option for an already constructed garment.

 

[Dr_Heech]

@Sympathy-For-The-Denim you could be right- obviously the jacket in that link is original, but the jeans l'm still not sure about. The rivets were made round-topped rather than dimple topped from c.1926, the suspender and fly buttons were plain until 1927/28 as well as chainstitched hems and selvedge. The beltloops don't look after-market but they are highly unusual in terms of construction, placement and the way they are attached. Could be a custom Taylor job or special customer request maybe? The repro 213 shows a pocket flap that wasn't attached until c.1927 but only single stitching was used until 1936 at least. The repro stitching looks twin needle. 

Anyway,  800 pairs of whatever that will go straight into storage in denim collections around the world. 

 

 

[Edit] Just glad l have a pair of Valencia St factory made 201's, the best imo

Edited Thursday at 06:41 PM by Dr_Heech
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[airfrogusmc]

I like the 213  jacket. I have a recent Japanesse made 53 type II and it is really nice. Has fuzzy denim a lot like my cone made 1955 501 have. Dr H, I to have a 555 Valencia St made 20s 201s and I agree they are really nice.