Acronym.

[lopiteaux]

Just now, gosgjkaj said:

I have no idea I only have a J47TS-GT in hand which the logo on the right, it really confuse me...

How about the J1A showing above? What do you thing in terms of authenticity?

Don't worry about the position of the logo, both versions are used.

The J1A looks authentic to me... certainly all the obvious signs (labels, zippers, micro-grid, colouration) look good. But better to ask someone who owns one. Something looks a little odd on the spec sheet, but I'm probably mistaken.

[lopiteaux]

3 minutes ago, gosgjkaj said:

This is mine J74, worn twice with J47TS and this happened...

What exactly happened? Difficult to judge from the photo...

[gosgjkaj]

1 minute ago, lopiteaux said:

What exactly happened? Difficult to judge from the photo...

Normal wear, did nothing crazy.

Like a tiny little piece of silk came out from the outer fabric (?), not sure is that a appropriate explanation since I can't speak English properly (sad)...

Speaking about the fabric, it feels like silk in hand but definitely more durable. XPAC is way way more durable than this.

[lopiteaux]

1 minute ago, gosgjkaj said:

Normal wear, did nothing crazy.

Like a tiny little piece of silk came out from the outer fabric (?), not sure is that a appropriate explanation since I can't speak English properly (sad)...

Speaking about the fabric, it feels like silk in hand but definitely more durable. XPAC is way way more durable than this.

Ah, gotcha... I thought that was dirt on my screen!

Thanks for the info... I'm thinking I might need to pick one up to see. The white looks incredible.

[gosgjkaj]

1 minute ago, lopiteaux said:

Ah, gotcha... I thought that was dirt on my screen!

Thanks for the info... I'm thinking I might need to pick one up to see. The white looks incredible.

No worry man.

My friend's conclusion: white looks better in picture and black looks better in hand.

But I can assure you it's fire when you wear it.

 

[Kamikaze]

I can only speak on the white but it has held up well in that area which I thought would be easiest to stain. 

[lopiteaux]

The white is so beautiful.

[weyoun69]

1 hour ago, lopiteaux said:

The white is so beautiful.

It is. I had both colors in hand and kept the white one. It's really cool. I use the jacket as midlayer more or less nonstop since November. Works totally good for me and I am very happy with the light, easy to wear and warm but not too warm jacket. Not sure if the jacket will work for longer time in the cold but for the winter in Munich as mid it was sufficient. I took the Large size because M was very tight and I like the loose look which Lenny had on the pics. Normally I take Medium for all of my acronym tops. 

[lopiteaux]

27 minutes ago, Holger said:

It is. I had both colors in hand and kept the white one. It's really cool. I use the jacket as midlayer more or less nonstop since November. Works totally good for me and I am very happy with the light, easy to wear and warm but not too warm jacket. Not sure if the jacket will work for longer time in the cold but for the winter in Munich as mid it was sufficient. I took the Large size because M was very tight and I like the loose look which Lenny had on the pics. Normally I take Medium for all of my acronym tops. 

Oh I have to get it now...

[CARLOOA]

9 minutes ago, lopiteaux said:

Oh I have to get it now...

We had a cold snap in Seattle recently. I can say under 40F static warmth is not adequate under a shell. If you’re active quite a bit it’ll be fine since polartec alpha is meant for activity insulation. Also, most alpha insulated garments are made with wind permeable faces so keep that in mind. 

[lopiteaux]

13 hours ago, CARLOOA said:

We had a cold snap in Seattle recently. I can say under 40F static warmth is not adequate under a shell. If you’re active quite a bit it’ll be fine since polartec alpha is meant for activity insulation. Also, most alpha insulated garments are made with wind permeable faces so keep that in mind. 

Very useful info, thanks mate.

[Kamikaze]

Agreed on the size up. Went tts large and kinda wish I could try an xl 

Edited February 18, 2019 by Kamikaze

[X.bee]

Question for the DIY guys.. is DS a material that can be easily dyed & have color hold for more than a few washes? Considering opting for a J72 in white instead of waiting for a black to pop up.

[alavkx]

<strike>DS holds color extremely well</strike>

 

edit: Misread your question. No idea how dryskin would hold a dye. My guess is not very well. I wouldn’t risk it, personally.

Edited February 19, 2019 by alavkx

[SNg]

Been waiting a while and I was finally able to get some time to do this. It's cool seeing the differences between generations of these models and how they've improved (and sometimes even areas where they don't).

But basically it's just plain fun to nerd out.

 

Differences in the in the sleeve patterns. The e-J1a is a size L and the J1ts-s is an XL for reference. You'll notice how the e-j1a actually has a baggier sleeve despite being a smaller size. They have a really similar shape which is a nice carry over from one iteration to the next. Of course, the pocket addition is definitely one of the more noticeable changes.

 

I really like seeing the differences between how the underarm was patterned. It's a little hard to see but the e-j1a was a lot simpler than the j1ts-s. This is one of my favorite parts of the jacket because it's so functional. It's a noticeable different when you're wearing the jacket and you can see how the jacket is pulling as you move your arms around. The short sleeve is also constructed differently - the e-j1a is literally a short sleeve wrapped around the longer sleeve while the j1ts-s is patterned and sewn into the longer sleeve.

 

Here's a shot of the gravity pockets of the j1ts-s and the e-j1a. It's kind of hard to see but the e-j1a is completely hidden and you can only access it from the cuff. The j1ts-s' pocket placement is a little weird imo because when your arms are at your side they warp the fabric a little around the forearm (because of the stiffness of the zipper) and it ends up looking a little weird.

 

I was waiting for the laundry machine to rinse out any leftover detergent and I realized that I could throw in the j47a-gt for a comparison as well. Sorry for the dark images! Here are some shots of the underarm and of the shoulder. The e-j1a and j1ts-s have really simple shoulder lines but the j47a does something it a little differently. I think of the zippered versions of the gravity pockets I prefer the placement of the j47a the most - it's closer to the back of the forearm so it doesn't mess with the shape of the sleeve too much. But sometimes when I'm walking the zipper tab flips up and down as it catches the side seam of the jacket. So functionally, I think I prefer the hidden gravity pockets of the e-j1a because it's the least obtrusive.

 

These are just some shots of some fun details that I really like on the e-j1a. The flak pocket is so over the top and definitely makes it the most used pocket on the entire jacket. I think there are technically four pockets in that area - main flak pocket, phone pocket, open side entry pocket (don't know how else to describe this one), and another side entry pocket with a zipper. Also the webbing with slits cut into it for your headphones (which I never use because it's such a hassle to thread them through).

Edited February 19, 2019 by SNg

[WiseFool]

RAF-Stotz highlights the architecture of the pieces soooo well. Its incredible. 

[Albm]

Good stuff man, love seeing the details in different iterations

[ArmandGLA]

Hey guys, im new here,

 

Wanted to know if this was legit?

[RemarkableArmor]

Surely no-one is faking P24s??!

[ArmandGLA]

I can provide 3 links from Asian manufactures that are faking these along with other jackets, its really pissing me off.

22 minutes ago, RemarkableArmor said:

Surely no-one is faking P24s??!

 

[lopiteaux]

J1A fakes seems to drip onto eBay once a week...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mens-Acronym-J1A-GT-Gore-tex-Hooded-Olive-Waterproof-Jacket-ACG/233135683921?hash=item3647f83951:m:mDv8XH4NpT6sLW1rjrgWQtA:rk:1:pf:0

[ArmandGLA]

5 minutes ago, lopiteaux said:

J1A fakes seems to drip onto eBay once a week...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mens-Acronym-J1A-GT-Gore-tex-Hooded-Olive-Waterproof-Jacket-ACG/233135683921?hash=item3647f83951:m:mDv8XH4NpT6sLW1rjrgWQtA:rk:1:pf:0

That seller has negative feedback for selling fakes if you click on his profile

Edited February 19, 2019 by ArmandGLA

[moneytalks]

there are really really good fake P24A-DS in the market. the only way you can tell visually is when they're rolled up, the fakes are fuzzy inside unlike the authentic ones. the cut and hardware, however, is a 100% match

Edited February 20, 2019 by moneytalks

[Inkinsurgent]

i've reported both the fake j1a seller and the fake s21-ds seller about a dozen times now but ebay gives zero fucks.

[Kamikaze]

21 minutes ago, moneytalks said:

there are really really good fake P24A-DS in the market. the only way you can tell visually is when they're rolled up, the fakes are fuzzy inside unlike the authentic ones. the cut and hardware, however, is a 100% match

Fuzzy how? I just remembered now that when I rolled up my p24a it was a bit fuzzy but I thought it might’ve been from wear. And are these fakes recent? I got mines about a year ago 

Edited February 20, 2019 by Kamikaze

[Yan90]

Are you serious about real good fake?

Its a huge difference between fake and og -DS (outer pattern,  softness, inside fuzzy texture, ribbon material, extremely crooked stitching etc.)

I have never seen a fake 24a-ds btw. Maybe you mean fake 23a-ds?...

Edited February 20, 2019 by Yan90

[lopiteaux]

1 hour ago, Inkinsurgent said:

i've reported both the fake j1a seller and the fake s21-ds seller about a dozen times now but ebay gives zero fucks.

Same here :/

[ArmandGLA]

So quick question, their are some pretty faded acronym pants, and I wanted to re dye them to look some what original. is their a company or link to this discussion?

[Yardsale]

5 minutes ago, ArmandGLA said:

So quick question, their are some pretty faded acronym pants, and I wanted to re dye them to look some what original. is their a company or link to this discussion?

I was wondering the same thing on these old veilance pants I have. Most people would suggest rit dye but is there something more advanced?

[ArmandGLA]

1 minute ago, Yardsale said:

I was wondering the same thing on these old veilance pants I have. Most people would suggest rit dye but is there something more advanced?

I was thinking perhaps sending it to an established company to have them done correctly. Problem is, if you dye pants to get the fade away, will it match a acronym jacket color for example. I hate have different tones of black on me.