Acronym.

[shadows]

I think the extremely limited runs will slow that process down quite a lot.

I beg to differ, there are no ''limited runs'' as it is made to order.

So more orders equals more production, if retailers get more questions about certain brands they will buy more next season.

Also the webshop adds another dimension as it is not known how many items they produce for that alone.

So the whole limited idea is nowhere to be seen as that implies a maximum amount that can or will be produced.

Acronym is hard to come by but certainly not limited.

[xc-mtb]

Any news when SS13 will be available for everyone without subnet-access?

I am thinking of buying a GT-22 or something from the new collection with a hood.

Best wishes

[danii]

rocky has far more confidence in his style and looks more natural in ACR than any of the awkward otakus in this thread.

awkward otaku cry: sorry but what is natural about starting wearing a brand with buying the most expensive pieces from the collection and wear it neck to ankles (buying the same items erlsn is wearing for the j28 shoot)? last but not least what's tech about having a gt jacket for indoor(?) gig with 14 empty(?) pockets?

[dranoelsy]

asap's co-founder/pr guy is very internet savvy i wouldnt doubt it if he was the dude that found acr jawn for rocky

[Brainboy]

Acronym as I see it is inherently otaku brand. In a good way.

I think the extremely limited runs will slow that process down quite a lot.

Yes, but still more people (think MTv or whatever watching kids) hunting ACR stuff down wouln't be a good thing.

I beg to differ, there are no ''limited runs'' as it is made to order.

So more orders equals more production, if retailers get more questions about certain brands they will buy more next season.

Also the webshop adds another dimension as it is not known how many items they produce for that alone.

So the whole limited idea is nowhere to be seen as that implies a maximum amount that can or will be produced.

Acronym is hard to come by but certainly not limited.

Something may be made to order but their production capability is very, very limited.

[BRICK DOM]

This thread turned into a joke really fast. Given the price point, do y'all really think that these ASAP Rocky fans are gonna go out and buy a single jacket they saw him wearing once? They probably thought it was The North Face with the label removed or some shit if they bothered to even give the jacket he was wearing a second thought. I don't get why you guys are freaking out in the slightest. The kids that listen to ASAP Rocky would never be able to afford ACR, nor would they really care to cop it. Could we please get back to the regular programming now?

[SuE]

The comments here are a joke. However there's some truth in the jibes...

Highsnobiety on the influence of A$AP ROCKY (among others):

A$AP Rocky helped SSUR’s COMME des FUCKDOWN series explode on to the streetwear scene while Swizz Beats instagrammed himself in Lichtenberg’s ‘Homies’ sweatshirt and 40 oz NY’s Margiela-inspired snapback.

Many high fashion and street fashion brands share more in common with each other than first imagined. It’s the years of history behind designers such as Chanel' date=' Versace, and Louis Vuitton that contribute to and carve their hallowed reputation. At the head of the fashion hierarchy, they create and dictate the trends of each season that gradually trickle down to the subcultures below. The street fashion brands spawned from these subcultures ingest these trends and then produce their own take. Thus it is a natural consequence for so much streetwear to be a comment on high-end pieces. It has always been running behind high fashion, occasionally catching up and running alongside it, but now it seems it has finally overtaken.

Designer clothes and streetwear brands both encourage similar attitudes of consumption from their clientele, working with limited runs means you have to be on top of your game to get there first if you want a piece of the action. It’s a paradox of the modern world that facilitates constant coverage of these super exclusive items – access to images has grown exponentially through blogs and the Internet, but they’re not any easier to get hold of.

On paper, both industries show signs of compatibility and it’s not a new phenomenon. Hip-hop stars have long been advocates of high fashion; take Gianni Versace’s infatuation with Tupac for example, which culminated in Tupac walking the catwalk. But it’s only now that the two worlds have merged and we see stores selling high-end alongside parody tees from streetwear brands while influential artists champion both. A$AP Rocky, for instance, recently collaborated with Raf Simons on a collection. Allegedly Simons wanted to take the collection to the catwalk but A$AP declined and insisted that it be a ‘friends and family only thing.’

A brand whom he was willing to back on the catwalk on the other hand was Hood by Air. Founded by 24-year old Shayne Oliver in 2007, Hood by Air began as an independent graphic t-shirt brand that has developed into a contemporary designer label while retaining its original ethos that appeals so strongly to an audience that has developed an awareness of high-end brands. Not only is its main logo a take on Paramount Pictures, but its success at New York Fashion Week has allowed the brand to transcend the world it originally appropriated and to become a part of it with an added dose of street cred – the only thing money can’t buy.

A$AP is popular in the #menswear scene. He's been featured and styled by Oki-Ni and Mr Porter, etailers who definitely cater to people with money. His (fashion) fans can easily afford ACRNM if they want to.

Edited March 27, 2013 by SuE

[Vampyrvargfesten]

This thread turned into a joke really fast. Given the price point, do y'all really think that these ASAP Rocky fans are gonna go out and buy a single jacket they saw him wearing once? They probably thought it was The North Face with the label removed or some shit if they bothered to even give the jacket he was wearing a second thought. I don't get why you guys are freaking out in the slightest. The kids that listen to ASAP Rocky would never be able to afford ACR, nor would they really care to cop it. Could we please get back to the regular programming now?

i don't understand the pricing argument that was mentioned. anything "exclusive" gets beasted on anytime there is excessive demand over it. "kids" pay $500+ for pyrex vision flannels that are printed on polo blanks. nothing is safe or sacred anymore.

in a more relevant example, rocky name drops raf simons in his song, and copycat "kids" beast over raf simons shit now.

the fact that a raf simons ma-1 from 2000 sold for $2,250 on ebay recently is mind boggling. this shit would have never happened 3+ years ago

[fasttimes]

ACR neck gaiter from FW0506 for sale. $3000. PM me kids.

[jl3969]

awkward otaku cry: sorry but what is natural about starting wearing a brand with buying the most expensive pieces from the collection and wear it neck to ankles (buying the same items erlsn is wearing for the j28 shoot)? last but not least what's tech about having a gt jacket for indoor(?) gig with 14 empty(?) pockets?

you don't get it. nothing about ACR is "natural". same thing with a lot of what Rocky wears. the fact he manages to make the un-natural look relatively natural is due to his natural confidence. the same confidence that makes him popular in both rap and high fashion circles.

he can wear head to toe because he can afford to. you're delusional if you think people buy and wear ACR solely for dodging some rain. it's fashion.

[BRICK DOM]

i don't understand the pricing argument that was mentioned. anything "exclusive" gets beasted on anytime there is excessive demand over it. "kids" pay $500+ for pyrex vision flannels that are printed on polo blanks. nothing is safe or sacred anymore.

in a more relevant example, rocky name drops raf simons in his song, and copycat "kids" beast over raf simons shit now.

the fact that a raf simons ma-1 from 2000 sold for $2,250 on ebay recently is mind boggling. this shit would have never happened 3+ years ago

Well then I guess I've gravely underestimated the amount of money that some fans have at their disposal (or rather the size of mommy/daddy's wallets). I always figured the maximum of their copping abilities amounted to maybe a $200 supleme camp. But still, until Rocky namedrops Acronym, things should be relatively okay. And even if he does, I don't think all the hypebeasts will jump on the acronym wagon. It's not like a huge chunk of the population has thousands to drop on clothes that their favorite rapper namedrops. If acronym gets maybe another dozen or so well-off customers (albeit misinformed and buying it for the wrong reason) it really isn't going to kill the brand.

[zeusneckone]

Good to see more conversation in here.

I wouldn't worry about it at all. I believe most of us buy what we like, for the design properties, functionality & aesthetics. Kids won't buy into it considering the price points and the cut of the pieces...

[insomnia]

you don't get it. nothing about ACR is "natural". same thing with a lot of what Rocky wears. the fact he manages to make the un-natural look relatively natural is due to his natural confidence. the same confidence that makes him popular in both rap and high fashion circles.

he can wear head to toe because he can afford to. you're delusional if you think people buy and wear ACR solely for dodging some rain. it's fashion.

what does that bolded statement even mean? if anything, you could argue ACR is the most natural brand.

also, i disagree somewhat that "Acronym is fashion". to a lot of people on superfuture, it is. but plenty of hardcore Acronym fans could care less about fashion. of all the top brands currently relevant (if ACR is considered a top brand), i'd be willing to bet more people are into Acronym for the aesthetic and technicality than for the fashion aspect. Acronym will still have a die hard "otaku" fan base even after techwear stops trending on the internet. downplaying the cultural presence behind a brand is how you end up with the Supreme phenomenon. do you think in the early 2000s people rocked Supreme just because it was "fashion"?

and lastly,

"confidence in style and looks" ≠ good style.

you're kidding yourself if you think that's the reason it looks okay on du (see hypebeast pics and/or worst streetsyle thread for confidence + shitty style) . i don't have a huge problem with what rocky's wearing, but it's nothing to fawn over. ton of people rock ACR better. shit's not THAT hard to wear.

[drgitlin]

, i'd be willing to bet more people are into Acronym for the aesthetic and technicality than for the fashion aspect.

It's only 7:30 am, but this certainly qualifies for the stupidest thing I've read so far today, and I've been reading SCOTUS transcripts from yesterday's hearing. So, people are into the aesthetics but not the fashion? Is that like not being a vegetarian, but only eating vegetables?

[SuE]

It's only 7:30 am, but this certainly qualifies for the stupidest thing I've read so far today, and I've been reading SCOTUS transcripts from yesterday's hearing. So, people are into the aesthetics but not the fashion? Is that like not being a vegetarian, but only eating vegetables?

Well it's the old dichotomy between style and fashion. Fans of acronym care that it looks good, has a good fit etc. but they aren't going to this out items after the fashion season ends. The brand embodies that ethic by refining pieces every other year or so instead of making wholesale changes to its collection. It cares about aesthetics without caring about fashion.

[Inkinsurgent]

It's only 7:30 am, but this certainly qualifies for the stupidest thing I've read so far today, and I've been reading SCOTUS transcripts from yesterday's hearing. So, people are into the aesthetics but not the fashion? Is that like not being a vegetarian, but only eating vegetables?

I think what he's trying to say is that there's a difference between people who wear acronym based on its aesthetic and feature set vs people who wear acronym because some douchebag with a grill wore it on a stage one time.

which is not to say that certain orthodontally eccentric entrepreneurs within the performing arts dont wear acronym because of a finely tuned sense of aesthetics because, well, thats totally possible.

Edited March 27, 2013 by Inkinsurgent

[TEKsevenZERO]

I just want to follow the crowd, even if I am the only person in that crowd.

I reckon folk like acronym as is a whole series of factors.

May I refer the jury to examine:

Gestalt

I am sadly unable to wear alot of it as it is too small for me or I am too big for it ! ( Curse you GT-J2xxxx!)

Reason I like it is because to me it feels like sic-fi rendered wearable and I love it - that's all that matter to me !

To be truthful I care not who wears it and those who do need to care a little less.

Whatever next I wonder; unfit penniless youths wearing expensive professional grade running shoes by some obscure Beaverton based sporting goods manufacturer who have some sort of tick as a logo 'tsk-tsk-' ?

Edited March 27, 2013 by TEKsevenZERO

[Appleseed]

insomnia is pretty spot on. 'Fashion' (or maybe more germane; what is 'fashionable') comes and goes; right now techwear is in - wherever you look. But the expressive technical exuberance that ACR has, goes far beyond that (and is perhaps decidedly 'unfashionable' - as there is inherent purpose behind it), and is one of the main draws for the people that have been following it for years.

Form follows function - yo.

[misanthropod]

rocky has far more confidence in his style and looks more natural in ACR than any of the awkward otakus in this thread.

"Awkward otaku?" Excuse me. I am a ninja.

[insomnia]

It's only 7:30 am, but this certainly qualifies for the stupidest thing I've read so far today, and I've been reading SCOTUS transcripts from yesterday's hearing. So, people are into the aesthetics but not the fashion? Is that like not being a vegetarian, but only eating vegetables?

lol i guess i wasn't clear enough, but i was referring to fashion in a temporal sense - trends that come and go - as many others have been helpful enough to point out.

still, i think it's plausible to be into the aesthetics of a clothing brand without caring for clothes, in particular.. but maybe what i mean is the brand's image rather than the brand's aesthetic, if there's a difference.

iunno this is too semantic and i'm not a philosopher or a designer so i could definitely be using terminology poorly.

glad i made your stupidest list so early in the day - sample size was small. something likely dethroned my statement later on

[drgitlin]

Don't worry, once I got to work and had to start dealing with my boss, it was

[TEKsevenZERO]

Still gagging for some ACR designed/made footwear. So far there is only one shoe I can now feel truly captures the same feeling as ACR ( for me at least ) and in a little crossover from the Urb-Tech thread is the Y-3 QASA = shoeporn and the one shoe I feel I must own and wear in quite some time, it is 'the one'. no doubt others here will also agree given the shared fondness of aesthetic.

[cmdR]

Damn nice one TEK! Will be on the look out for those.

Rocky looks great in ACR, would be pretty ankward to bump into him as my ensemble as well (with those P9s). Add him to the list of celebs who wear ACR:

1. John Meyer

2. Joe Hahn

3. Robin Williams

I believe Bieber is next ;-]

[steph]

Damn, I was just scrolling down to throw some Robin Williams / John Mayer shade. Rocky looks ever-so-slightly less awful than RW in that pic.

As for the ASAP/CDF thing: if you think that clothing (SORRY 'jawns') Cara Delevingne wears while hanging out with unsuccessful Eurovision acts and pint-sized boyband members in Dalston while being photographed by Vanity Fair is something even worth discussing, well…OK?

[wahwho11]

I think robbin williams wearing acr is awesome. I remember something about him closet cleaning a lot of his clothes to good will. the laundry list of stuff he had were some exceptional shit.

Edited March 29, 2013 by wahwho11

[cmdR]

Only awesome people wear ACR, this is fact.

[Vampyrvargfesten]

I think robbin williams wearing acr is awesome. I remember something about him closet cleaning a lot of his clothes to good will. the laundry list of stuff he had were some exceptional shit.

kinda bummed robin williams gave away all his bape stuff...

anyway, i need to requote this post by danii:

robin williams techninj (did you know he is acr fan?)

some other cool pics:

do you think robin williams hangs out with a$ap rocky?

does robin williams care more about the clothes?

...or does he care about the fashion (depending on if you believe fashion exists)?

does he look "natural" in acr? (...moreso than rocky or john mayer?)

does robin williams live in an alternate cyperpunk universe?

do you think robin williams has subnet access?

[wahwho11]

robin williams oversees who gets subnet access.

robin williams knows how to use the escape zip.

robin williams actually modulates his acr bags.

how did robin williams come from bohemian chic jumanji to this?

[wahwho11]

don't question robin williams okatu-ness.

not to mention the acr clothes look so relaxed on him, which is the point of clothes.

Edited March 30, 2013 by wahwho11

[kH0yA Sw@Gp0o]

^his daughter is weirdly cute x_x first time i've ever seen her tbh