The Flat Head

[Cold Summer]

On 2ND, I just saw a new pair of jeans called the 3002, which looks like a slim straight model. I can't find any more info about them, but it looks interesting.

[marti-mar]

Hello,

I am new to Japanese and Raw denim. I'm trying to find a good fit. These are some fit pics of an FH 3009 - which I believe was based on a '66 cut. Could you tell me if this fit looks about right pre-soak? Is there a better fit I should try? Would a little higher rise eliminate some of the bagginess in the backside? I also tried out a Samurai s710BK II if anyone is curious about those fit pics ... in the Samurai thread.

6 foot tall, 205lbs, size 36 Jeans.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

Edited August 1, 2012 by marti-mar

[CMCiA]

The soak should eliminate some of the bagginess around your upper thigh. But it looks tight around your hips as is so you might have some discomfort post-soak.

[marti-mar]

They're pretty tight around the waist indeed. It'll suck for a while, but if the soak alleviates some of the bagginess, I can endure it. They're really beautiful jeans.

[bod]

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[Kwaker]

They're pretty tight around the waist indeed. It'll suck for a while, but if the soak alleviates some of the bagginess, I can endure it. They're really beautiful jeans.

The soak will definitely alleviate the bagginess.

But are you concerned with your wedgie (which is unlikely to improve after the soak - from personal experience)?

[marti-mar]

Wow, I didn't even notice the wedgie. Hmm, so a wash doesn't help with that?

[Kwaker]

Unfortunately not ... a wash may actually worsen it as the seams shrink and affect the back-rise and yoke.

I notice the wedgie to be slightly less prominent with your Sams ... less pulling in the area.

Edited August 3, 2012 by Kwaker

[CMCiA]

Good point. I've gotten wedgies post soak with jeans that didn't have one pre-soak so you may have an issue there considering how much that denim shrinks.

[shoreman]

Try a size up in the 3005. Classic straight leg.

[3ns�]

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Wow, I didn't even notice the wedgie. Hmm, so a wash doesn't help with that?

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but if you like the 3009 and the waist/lower rise is tight then you might consider going up 1-2 sizes. After a hot soak the waist can shrink over 2'. The thighs, which also looked like they'd fit too tight after soak, will also tighten up (to lesser degree). Keeping that in mind, from what I've read the 3005's thighs measure tighter then the 3009. Which IMO is perplexing for a cut that's supposed to be roomer then the 3009.Another word of advice for any prospective 3009 purchasers is to consider preemptive reenforcement of the back pockets. At least that's what I'm having done since after a second soak the left one came loose. Before and after pictures will be posted in a week or so when they get back from being repaired.

Edited August 4, 2012 by 3ns�

[bod]

^ This, from experience the 3009 has a small top block, and a slight taper mid-thigh, they shrink 2" in the waist so size up by that much. Didn't rate the cut on me at all; small top block, narrow thigh, looser below the knee.. flogged 'em.

[PhillyFresh]

^ This, from experience the 3009 has a small top block, and a slight taper mid-thigh, they shrink 2" in the waist so size up by that much. Didn't rate the cut on me at all; small top block, narrow thigh, looser below the knee.. flogged 'em.

<p>

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but if you like the 3009 and the waist/lower rise is tight then you might consider going up 1-2 sizes. After a hot soak the waist can shrink over 2'. The thighs, which also looked like they'd fit too tight after soak, will also tighten up (to lesser degree). Keeping that in mind, from what I've read the 3005's thighs measure tighter then the 3009. Which IMO is perplexing for a cut that's supposed to be roomer then the 3009.Another word of advice for any prospective 3009 purchasers is to consider preemptive reenforcement of the back pockets. At least that's what I'm having done since after a second soak the left one came loose. Before and after pictures will be posted in a week or so when they get back from being repaired.

So sizing up two would be the right thing to do? Because I'm a true 31 and I bought a 33 for the larger waist/thighs...but with a few other pairs of sz33 denim I have I HATE how the 33 didnt fit as snug as I liked, I guess they didn't shrink as much as I wanted.

So these will shrink 2" in the waist? because that would be perfect.

[zwer]

They will shrink and then the waist will stretch back out and be too big.

[3ns�]

Yup they'll shrink. After the first soak my 3009's shrunk 2" and after the second one, done with about a week of total wear, they shrunk further.

I don't know how much they'll end up stretching back out since this is my first pair. Hopefully it's not too extreme since not much pressure is being exerted by my waist.

[PhillyFresh]

So I just got my 3009s in and the way they fit pre-soak is absolutely perfect, except for the waist/seat and the inseam. I could live with a little shrinkage but, nothing more tha like 0.2" around.

How should I soak? Or will my pants inevitably shrink and become too tight in the legs?

Edited August 8, 2012 by PhillyFresh

[shoreman]

...

Soak, wear and be done with it.

[llvlaglne]

cold soak for 10mins, drip dry for a little. and wear while damp

[alexx1976]

Hello,

I am new to Japanese and Raw denim. I'm trying to find a good fit. These are some fit pics of an FH 3009 - which I believe was based on a '66 cut. Could you tell me if this fit looks about right pre-soak? Is there a better fit I should try? Would a little higher rise eliminate some of the bagginess in the backside? I also tried out a Samurai s710BK II if anyone is curious about those fit pics ... in the Samurai thread.

6 foot tall, 205lbs, size 36 Jeans.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

must soak them...the threats need water....and for shrink control-put a piece of wood or others in the waist( button closed)

soak should eliminate some of the bagginess

[darbir]

hello

Zevin

fh

conv

Edited August 10, 2012 by darbir

[marti-mar]

must soak them...the threats need water....and for shrink control-put a piece of wood or others in the waist( button closed)

soak should eliminate some of the bagginess

I'll be doing that in the near future. I'm going to work on my Samurai's for a couple of weeks to break them in and then see how the 3009's work out.

[chen321]

Hey guys. Thinking about picking up a pair of bsp and needed some help on sizin. I am a little worried about the thighs. I wear a sz 31 for IH 301s with the thigh slightly loose and a sz 31 nudie thin Finns with thighs perfect. What sz should I get for the BSP? Also, do they fit more like IH 301 or thinn fins?

[okisan]

i have IH-301 in a 30 & bsp's in 31. the bsp's really took some stretching out after soaking to get them wearable. my experience with bsp's is that they are a little undersized so you're better of buying tts. the bsp's on the whole have a tighter thigh, but a slightly larger hem, but that'll be affected by your overall build & height.

whatever your IH-301s actually measure in the waist (for example 32"), buy the corresponding tag size in the bsp (a 32).

[BrownMetallic]

'don't know about you guys, but BSPs are an automatic SU1 [to start with]. you can try to stretch & fit in a TTS, but it's gonna bite your ass down the line..

[BukkakeKing]

Some Evo on my BSP - around 50wears - Hot soaked twice.

[ac_slater]

hello

Zevin

fh

conv

model/wash info?

[Cold Summer]

I think Darbir's jeans are F310s - probably something like 1.5-2 years at this point. Definitely some of the sickest FHs around.

[Eyeq8402]

Flat Head Mid Length wallet. Priced to sell. Open to offers.

http://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=3599.0

[lilfatsupra]

Post Outsidelands 2012/prewash

[Mild7]

hi guys,

quick sizing q..

Im a roomy 34 in Samurai, a snug 34 in Eternal, a comfortable 34 in Iron Heart.

What size do you recommend for Flat Head 1005 and 3005?

Thanks!