Skull Jeans by An Alchemist

[tigerstrom]

Yeah, the rise is my only problem with 5010xx. Skull 5010xx was my first pair of Japanese denim. Love them and still wear them from time to time.

[noobedloser]

Thats odd. I went TTS but realized i couldve sized up one on the 5010xx for a better fit. But the 3sixteens ST were definitely slimmer than my 5010xx

[A-pink]

5000XX + kawatako

 

[lsneakerhead]

After the first soak usually in the skulls how much do they stretch/give after you start wearing them ? And if I bought the one wash from BiG they don't shrink much more than that correct?

[cmboland]

After the first soak usually in the skulls how much do they stretch/give after you start wearing them ? And if I bought the one wash from BiG they don't shrink much more than that correct?

Theyre sanforized so i wouldnt expect much

[Wörn75]

We've discussed this previously and I still cannot find any information that suggests the 5510 and 5507 are sanforized.

 

BIG states: "Rigid/Unwashed"

 

Denimio states: "raw denim is not prewashed it shrinks by 3-4% after washing"

 

shop.fabfour.co.jp/ states: "Non-Wash"

 

Can you site a reference that states these two models are sanforized?

 

I have read up on the process of what it means for a textile to be sanforized. 

 

http://www.sanforized.biz/e_what.htm

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanforization

 

So I'm gonna go back to my original statement that my 5507 6x6 pair were truly raw, unsaforized when I purchased them in 2010 at SELA.

Edited August 12, 2015 by Wörn75

[SuperJackle]

I thought the only unsanforized skulls are the 5000? Or perhaps they are just raw vs the others being one wash.

[Maynard Friedman]

I think Skulls (with the exception of the 5000XX) were always described as partially sanforized, so they will shrink but not as much as proper stf denim, hence the 3-4% figure.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

rigid/unwash has nothing to do with sanforized...as sanforized denim doesn't has to be washed to be sanforized. It's a different process.

 

There was always the general opinion, that Skull's denim is only partially sanforized and thus shrinks ,ore than the usual sanforized denim. When I handeld my Skull 5010 the denim was obviously very flat and felt "pressed".

[Wörn75]

Right I understand what the sanforized process is. 

 

But if they are in fact even partially sanforized it seems odd that I can find no mention of it anywhere, not even the fabfour site.

 

Not a big deal, but it's always kinda bugged me.

 

I'm well versed in our world of denim.

Edited August 12, 2015 by Wörn75

[beautiful_FrEaK]

But if you see it the other way 'round...

the 3 sites you mentioned also don't state that the denim is "unsanforized"

 

edit: or loomstate or whatever...and from the feel of the denim I can guarantee you that they are not loomstate

Edited August 12, 2015 by beautiful_FrEaK

[Maynard Friedman]

From BiG's description of the 5000XX:

"Same denim used for S5010XX 6x6 but left in its unsanforized state to allow for shrinkage"

[Wörn75]

A clue!

 

Good detective work @Maynard!

 

True @beautiful_FrEak

[cmboland]

I still want to get a pair of 5010xx after i get some wear into my current pairs =x

[exaptavist]

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Edited October 9, 2015 by hoggreaser

[Wörn75]

Here:

 

http://shop.fabfour.co.jp/showcase/BB035.html

 

http://shop.fabfour.co.jp/showcase/BB046.html

 

防縮加工 - 'Shrink Proof'

 

You might see it sometimes referred to as ã‚µãƒ³ãƒ•ã‚©ãƒ©ã‚¤ã‚ºãƒ‰åŠ å·¥ - 'sanforised processing', but the Fab Four site uses the term é˜²ç¸®åŠ å·¥ as above.

 

Hope that helps.

 

Excellent!

 

Thank you very much @hoggreaser for the definitive answers.

 

Much appreciated. 

[.BQ.]

Skull jeans 5010xx (Texas Cotton) purchased in 2010, didn't wear them too much in 2013-2014 

pics without the belt are pre wash, with the belt post wash

Edited December 25, 2015 by .BQ.

[cmboland]

Those of you that have had both Texas and Pima cotton skulls. Do you really have a preference or if I'm interested in skulls It doesn't matter what cotton is used. This is a brand that's intrigued me for a few years.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

I only owned the newer Pima Cotton model but I always preferred the fades of the Texas Cotton models. That said, I think you have a very hard time to find any pairs with Texas Cotton. They were already scarce when Skull jeans switched to Pima cotton and this move is what…4-5 years ago?

 

Besides that, there are no signs to see what denim was used on the pair you look at (as far as I know). So when you buy them online you have to trust the person selling the Texas Cotton pair.

To sum it up: it’s way easier and faster to simply buy a pair from Denimio or BiG (since you are in the States).

[noobedloser]

I agree with BF in the sense that I preferred the way the Texas cotton faded over the Pima, so I made sure that I got a pair of Texas cotton and I was definitely not disappointed. Others preferred the way the Pima cotton faded also, so to each their own. It took me a really long time for me to find a pair of texas cotton ones in my size especially, but I am pretty sure there are still a few out there. 

This is a brand that I really loved and was not disappointed with though.

[spunkey]

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Edited August 16 by spunkey

[P_K]

Updates as just been washed.

 

 

[chambo2008]

my orignal first pair, needs alot of repairs but i love them...

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Edited September 3, 2016 by chambo2008

[mikecch]

^ One of the best fades I've seen recently. Just wow!

[lance]

I agree, beautiful evo and nice to see some Skull activity, chambo2008!

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Great fades! I take those are the Texas cotton Skulls?

[chambo2008]

thank you guys, i am pretty sure they are i got them back in 2008 so my first japanese denim, i still have the brown pair and a black that are too small for me (29) if anyone had 30 or 31 in the black denim that would be great

[Aviv]

So, while I understand current Skull 5010xx to be at least partially sanforized, can I ask how people have sized them? I'm usually a 32 in Flat Head for example, which is my TTS. Skull 32s seem a bit big for me starting at 33.5 inches, according to BiG. Can I size down to the 31 and get some stretch out of them? It sounds like they don't shrink much when they get wet, as they aren't true "shrink to fit" in that sense. 

Edited October 15, 2016 by Aviv

[noobedloser]

Just bought and received a pair of 5507xx from BIG. 

Im a bit disappointed at the denim from the initial feel. It's thick and soft but definitely not crunchy? like my 5010xx. The buttonholes were unnecessarily difficult to button up the jeans and seemed like the holes themselves wasn't cut properly. Threads seem a bit different as well. 

I'm hoping that this will change after I put some decent wear into these jeans

edit: THIS IS NOTHING AGAINST BIG. Great service and pleasant experience as being my first purchase with them!

Edited January 24, 2017 by noobedloser

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Although the denim of Skull Jeans n sanforized you can give them a soak/wash. They will still shrink a significant amount and the fabric opens up. Right now it feels rather smooth and slick, right?