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^Dont know if u can still find them, but the Skulls config might be a match for u, as well.

Btw, fab fits on those jawns, especially the Geisha. I know wider hems aren't so pop these days, but I think, once in awhile, having a slight hourglass-esqué bottoms silhouette is quite glam & sexy ... as compared to the ubiquitous jeggingfit ...

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thx :) I found some pictures of skull linda and it does look like potentially a good match for my shape but I need to do less buying and more wearing!  I'm already trying hard to talk myself out of buying the momo's and it's very difficult.  those stripes  :blink:   

 

I like the flare too!  I decided not to hem them yet either. I just sewed the cuff very loosely into place, at a good height for hiking boots and sneakers.  and if I want to wear them with 4.5" heels someday when they stop bleeding indigo then I can take the cuff down.

 

samurai geisha fades already just barely visible after 9 days... it seems so fast!   but the weight makes me want to be a lot more active in them than I was in my baldwin tens last year so that might be why they are fading faster. 

 

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It seems like girls can get away with a lot more with fashion than guys.  I'm not sure if a guy can pull off boot cut now a days or maybe that cut will be hip again in 10 years.  Respect the Geisha denim and it should be your duty to beat the crap out of them for epic fades  :)

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I feel like my geishas have faded just as much in 20 days as the Baldwin Tens did in 8 months :) it is very satisfying to watch.

 

 

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Are your Baldwins made from Cone Mills Denim? I think it's interesting that Cone denim fades so fast, whereas, other denim is not.

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Are your Baldwins made from Cone Mills Denim? I think it's interesting that Cone denim fades so fast, whereas, other denim is not.

 

that was a picture of the geishas (with 20 wears and no washes yet); not sure about Baldwin Ten but I looked it up and it says those are japanese denim too.  very different weight though (16oz geishas vs. 10oz baldwin ten) so maybe it's a weight thing; being more active in the geishas because I feel like they are heavy enough to take it :)  

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that was a picture of the geishas (with 20 wears and no washes yet); not sure about Baldwin Ten but I looked it up and it says those are japanese denim too.  very different weight though (16oz geishas vs. 10oz baldwin ten) so maybe it's a weight thing; being more active in the geishas because I feel like they are heavy enough to take it :)

 

I'm wondering if it has to do with the weave as well. I have a pair of 12.5oz Gustin Cone Mills denim that faded incredibly fast and then a pair of 14.5oz N&F Left Hand Twill that took forever just to see fades. I'm currently wearing a pair of 14.5oz Leon Denim which is made from low tension denim from Collect Mills and these are proving to be tough faders. I'm already over a month in and the only fades I can see is in the rear, but just barely.

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It seems like girls can get away with a lot more with fashion than guys.  I'm not sure if a guy can pull off boot cut now a days or maybe that cut will be hip again in 10 years.  Respect the Geisha denim and it should be your duty to beat the crap out of them for epic fades  :)

 

Meh, you can pull off whatever you like, it's not like super relaxed fitting 50s jeans or 1890s wabash fabrics are in fashion but people pull it off all the time ;)

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I agree, wear whatever you like :D

 

samurai geisha stretched out soooo much everywhere ...lol.  it's even doing a tiny bit of the same horizontal upper butt fold that the railcar vixens had, so I find myself wishing I had tried the size 2 instead of the 3, but I'm leaving it alone.  I love them anyway.  on the bright side, zero muffin top now since they are so loose.  I just feel like next time I order raw denim I really need to test the limits of how small a size I can squeeze into on day 1, if I want it to still be somewhat fitted later  :D

 

how much samurai geisha stretched:

 - the flat thigh measurement is 0.75" bigger than it used to be (thigh circumference 1.5" bigger)

 - front and back rise are each 1" longer now

 - the waist circumference is 2" bigger. 

 

that's a lot!

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would a hot soak/wash help with shrinkage? i'm assuming the Geishas are sanforized, correct?

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Nope, all denim from Samurai is unsanforized. But the Geishas always come in one-wash condition. Against the stretching in the waist you can wear a belt. Or you just wash more regularly to shrink them back every time

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yes they were once washed when I got them. I think just a belt is enough for now though ... I don't want to wash them yet but it will be nice to have them snug again when I do finally wash them 😊

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well....a big new contracting project made it impossible for me to resist the momo's that I was lusting after  :rolleyes:  the measurements on these looked so perfect for my shape in theory (a low rise in front and back, but also a small waist compared to the thigh)

 

I keep feeling like my jeans stretch out too much and then feel too big, so this one is like a test of how small a size I can start with. On day 1 the thighs were so tight that they sat 2 inches too low on me and could not be buttoned or zipped at all, not even if my life depended on it.  I slept in them twice, I know it's kind of odd, but it worked; now the thighs are loose enough that I can pull them all the way up and I can button them and zip them.  so this picture is day 3; I think they will be just right in the end 

 

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I think they look good on you. I've never been able to buy jeans that are smaller than my waist size with the hopes that I can squeeze into them. I tried it once and it was a painful experience just trying to get the button fly fastened.

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oh yeah...in my case I think my thighs are always the holdup if it can't button at the waist... lol.  If the thighs are too tight then I can't pull the waistband high enough, to the part of my body that's small enough for it to button.  but once I get them up my thighs then it's fine.

 

I wasn't sure if it was going to work because I read momo's don't stretch much...plan B if it didn't work was to gift this pair to my sister who's a size or two smaller than me :)  I still want to give her a present though, maybe she'll get size 26 :D

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I remember doing that for my Elephant 1s because I sized down 2 sizes.  I promised myself never again!

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well I imagine it would be a lot more unpleasant for a guy to size down!  :P  for me pretty painless though. and I will really like it a lot if they still feel somewhat fitted after they are fully broken in.

 

ignoring the hoodie (because maybe I need a fancier shirt for this to work)... do you think the momo's work with my 4" heels?  It's nice that they are already the perfect length for it. 

 

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take my comment with a grain of salt, especially since I know nothing about women's fashion, but to my eye heels look better with tapered jeans. But, I think heels could work in your case....guess it depends on what you're aiming for.

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they definitely go with the heels. i find it nice, heels and jeans. but maybe consider a cuff perhaps. don't think you'd really want then jeans to cover up the heels...

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thank you for the input!  I don't know anything about women's fashion but maybe you are both right about not hiding heels :P  

(as for what i was aiming for...a "going out to eat and wanting to look kind-of-sort-of dressed up, but not so dressed up that I am actually wearing a dress" kind of outfit...needs a different shirt though. maybe a nice sweater or nice blouse. just not a hoodie... lol)

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they definitely go with the heels. i find it nice, heels and jeans. but maybe consider a cuff perhaps. don't think you'd really want then jeans to cover up the heels...

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Hi machine-language, I think the cut and length look great with heels!

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Hello! :D Railcar here back with a new style. Railcar Starlet. 11oz Turkish fabric. This non-selvedge stretch cotton denim was designed for multiple body shapes. Legs have a skinny profile and the dark indigo fades into a classic blue. Machine washable, mine tightened up on the legs after a wash as you can see on the bottom photo. Really easy raw for women to get into. If anyone has questions feel free to ask.

 

 

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Thanks for posting the info on the Geisha's machine-language I've been looking at those for ages, but the rise always puts me off. They look so great I might have to give in though!

 

 

well....a big new contracting project made it impossible for me to resist the momo's that I was lusting after  :rolleyes:  the measurements on these looked so perfect for my shape in theory (a low rise in front and back, but also a small waist compared to the thigh)

 

I keep feeling like my jeans stretch out too much and then feel too big, so this one is like a test of how small a size I can start with. On day 1 the thighs were so tight that they sat 2 inches too low on me and could not be buttoned or zipped at all, not even if my life depended on it.  I slept in them twice, I know it's kind of odd, but it worked; now the thighs are loose enough that I can pull them all the way up and I can button them and zip them.  so this picture is day 3; I think they will be just right in the end 

 

momotaro 8005SP size 27

 

 

 

I found my Momotaro's didn't stretch too much - I purposely soaked and stretched just the waistband and now they're perfect, just coming up on a year I think (although not wearing them every day). I'm a boots girl, but you're rocking those heels :)

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Taylor - those are just lovely!  :D

 

ravensnest - glad it helped; I love my geishas soooo much, they fade so fast and it's lovely to watch. I personally wouldn't be afraid of the low rise because they stretch so much.  on mine the thighs stretched out so much that they can sit pretty much as high as I want them to. and the rise stretched too.  everything stretched horizontally and also vertically.  I would love to try the next size down because I think they stretched a little too much for my taste but damn $295 is a lot so I'm ok with the looser fit for now, whatever! lol

 

I absolutely love my momo 8005sp too...they are starting to feel like second skin :) breaking those in was grueling (for a while my hip flexors were fatigued when I walked a lot in them; just a lot of resistance on every step because I sized down) but I love that waist/thigh ratio.  they are the only pair of jeans I own that is still fitted in the waist and upper butt after break-in; the only jeans I own that don't tempt me to take in the waist someday :)

 

PS. I would love you see pictures of your momos! :D

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Can do! I had them on today actually, so good timing. These are I think my favourites.

 

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They are the Momotaro copper label 'vintage indigo' GL007-MZ. More info here. I love the details on them, the yoke and pocket fabric is really different/interesting and I love the peach arcs!

 

I have the Railcar Vixens too - what do you think of them? I love mine, but made the mistake of having them taken up too much! I'm going to wait and see if they bring back the higher waisted Donna's soon - but I'd love to get the Vixen's made in a heavier weight.

 

I *really* want those Geisha's now!! 

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Can do! I had them on today actually, so good timing. These are I think my favourites.

 

They are the Momotaro copper label 'vintage indigo' GL007-MZ. More info here. I love the details on them, the yoke and pocket fabric is really different/interesting and I love the peach arcs!

 

I have the Railcar Vixens too - what do you think of them? I love mine, but made the mistake of having them taken up too much! I'm going to wait and see if they bring back the higher waisted Donna's soon - but I'd love to get the Vixen's made in a heavier weight.

 

I *really* want those Geisha's now!! 

 

ooh those are gorgeous!   love  :D

 

my size 29 railcar vixens unfortunately didn't work out for my shape...they were very nice quality but I ended up gifting them because of shape differences...I think part of the problem is I guessed my size wrong from afar (too big) but also they had too high of a back rise for my shape and too much convexity in the upper butt.  I think my shape needs a low back rise and a totally flat shape around the yoke - I'm very wide-boned in the hips but not enough butt volume to fill a higher back rise or a convex yoke area.  we did an alteration to take in the waist and lower the back rise and it definitely helped get everything closer to my body shape but taking out that much fabric changed where they sat on me and the back pockets looked too high afterwards...oh well, it was a learning mistake on my part.  I noticed those also stretched a lot very quickly so if I ever try them again I will try to err on the side of picking a size too small. 

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Thanks! I hadn't worn them a huge amount, but during the past 4 months I've started wearing them a lot more. Just about to wash them for the first time, I've had them for about 16 months all up.

 

That's interesting - I have two pair of Vixens, one in the natural indigo, one in the black. I've never had an issue with the indigo ones - other than the crotch sits below my actual crotch by a bit, and this puts a bit more stress on that area, so I've had to repair them (which I'm fine with). I had always assumed the thighs were a little tight which prevented me from pulling them up as far as they can go - they sit just on my hips, whereas in the pics I've seen they seem to sit higher on other people.

So I bought one size up in the black ones and actually saw the picture of the ones you had on the  previous page and realised that's how the bigger ones fit me! With the kind of bunch/roll at the back. So I'm not sure they're actually the best fit for me. Having said that, I LOVE my indigo Vixens and wear them all the time and would recommend them to anyone based on the construction and materials etc. I've just forced them to fit me a certain way :D

The Momotaros fit me better I think for the same reason as you, they're a bit lower rise - but I think also it has to do with the denim itself. The Railcar denim is very tightly woven and rigid, whereas the Momotaro denim, while a heavier weight (14oz), seems to have a bit more texture and was softer from the start, so is maybe less densely woven. So perhaps they have a bit more give and have moulded a bit better to my shape? 

Funnily enough I just bought a new pair of TCB Orange Tab super slims - they have a *really* high rise (approx 10") and I was a bit uh hopeful with the sizing (haha) and got a smaller size. But the denim is soft and hairy and despite being 13oz has really softened up quickly where I need it to - so while they're still tight, they fit really well. And they're guys jeans so not curvy at all. 

So I think what I've learned through trial and error is that the actual denim, rather than the cut will contribute a lot to the eventual fit - which I guess is pretty obvious but it's one of those things you have to learn yourself I guess! 

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Thanks! I hadn't worn them a huge amount, but during the past 4 months I've started wearing them a lot more. Just about to wash them for the first time, I've had them for about 16 months all up.

 

That's interesting - I have two pair of Vixens, one in the natural indigo, one in the black. I've never had an issue with the indigo ones - other than the crotch sits below my actual crotch by a bit, and this puts a bit more stress on that area, so I've had to repair them (which I'm fine with). I had always assumed the thighs were a little tight which prevented me from pulling them up as far as they can go - they sit just on my hips, whereas in the pics I've seen they seem to sit higher on other people.

So I bought one size up in the black ones and actually saw the picture of the ones you had on the  previous page and realised that's how the bigger ones fit me! With the kind of bunch/roll at the back. So I'm not sure they're actually the best fit for me. Having said that, I LOVE my indigo Vixens and wear them all the time and would recommend them to anyone based on the construction and materials etc. I've just forced them to fit me a certain way :D

The Momotaros fit me better I think for the same reason as you, they're a bit lower rise - but I think also it has to do with the denim itself. The Railcar denim is very tightly woven and rigid, whereas the Momotaro denim, while a heavier weight (14oz), seems to have a bit more texture and was softer from the start, so is maybe less densely woven. So perhaps they have a bit more give and have moulded a bit better to my shape? 

Funnily enough I just bought a new pair of TCB Orange Tab super slims - they have a *really* high rise (approx 10") and I was a bit uh hopeful with the sizing (haha) and got a smaller size. But the denim is soft and hairy and despite being 13oz has really softened up quickly where I need it to - so while they're still tight, they fit really well. And they're guys jeans so not curvy at all. 

So I think what I've learned through trial and error is that the actual denim, rather than the cut will contribute a lot to the eventual fit - which I guess is pretty obvious but it's one of those things you have to learn yourself I guess! 

 

I would love to see your TCB jeans too, if you have a picture! :D  I have to live vicariously through other people since I already spent too much on jeans lately....lol

 

I think you would like the samurai geisha denim a lot ... it is heavy (16oz) but feels like a looser weave ...and it's also "soft and hairy" ... I love the texture of it.    :D

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