Samurai Jeans

[beautiful_FrEaK]

I'd soak without any detergent. IMO it's not necessary as the denim isn't dirty in any way. But it might help to get rid of more startch if you want to achieve that.

Other than that...they weight of the denim doesn't really influence the soaking procedure

[albertabeef]

Ok thanks B_F ill try to upload some picks when they get in as well.

[hoy]

hi guys, does anyone know how much the waist shrinks on the s003jp? i'm thinking about picking up a pair, but don't know if i should go tts (29) or down one.

thanks!

[newp]

How long will s710xx bleed? I've got them in mail today and I am really afraid to ruin my white high-top sneakers. Is there any way to prevent bleeding except to cuff them up? I don't think the tape will help.

Also a soaking question: won't it ruin the bathtube? How have you cleaned it after soaking? I don't have a bathtube at my home, only shower, so I will be doing it at my friend's house.

Thanks a lot.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

The 19oz denim isn't a strong bleeder. That said, all raw denim will bleed on your white high tops. So there isn't much you can do about it. Also cuffing won't help as it will still stain the shoes, even from the inside. It stops after some months/washing/enough wear. You can't predict it.

As I said the 19oz denim deosn't lose much indigo when soaking, you should still clean the bathtub. Especially if you use someone else's bathtub. Every normal bathroom cleaning detergent and a sponge will do.

Edited January 23, 2013 by beautiful_FrEaK

[newp]

Thank you very much for your answer.

[dave28]

I`m snowed in so quick questions to any who might know. I have used e2nd in the past and all was well but their communication relies on translators too much for my liking, is there any better place in Japan to get Samurai that understand more English ?

How does the Samurai 19oz denim compare to iron heart 21oz denim ?

[louisbosco]

the samurai is much slubbier than iron heart jeans. IIRC iron heart uses long staple cotton which make it much 'smoother'.

try pirates or and-japan?

[everyinchofgod]

Totally different denim. Samurai's 19 oz is much slubbier, with way more character, and a rougher feel, especially when new. It does soften up nicely after a while. Iron Heart's 21 oz is much softer and smoother when new, isn't slubby at all, and feels somewhat "stretchier" when you're wearing them. Not in a spandex / APC way though. The Iron Heart denim fades to a more "electric blue" shade while Samurai fades to more of a grayish blue. The Samurai denim has more interesting fades IMHO, probably because of the slubbier texture. I own both, and love both.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

and-japan doesn't sell Samurai

best option is Yuichi from www.kaizoku-pirates.com

[zwer]

How long will s710xx bleed? I've got them in mail today and I am really afraid to ruin my white high-top sneakers. Is there any way to prevent bleeding except to cuff them up? I don't think the tape will help.

Also a soaking question: won't it ruin the bathtube? How have you cleaned it after soaking? I don't have a bathtube at my home, only shower, so I will be doing it at my friend's house.

Thanks a lot.

Put a layer of duct tape around the inside of your hems. Old sneaker head trick. Generally works, but you might try with a pair of sneakers you don't love so much first.

[whackedout]

^ wouldn't that leave residue on your jeans?

[S-Town]

At some point in the past, I made peace with the indigo on the shoes. You can't go into battle without expecting a little bit of shrapnel.

[aaronxxx]

indigo on your shoes is sick. don't be such a baby about it.

[unorthodox]

Yeah, duct tape the entire hem of your jeans. That will look cool too!!!!

[hawaii]

Personally, i'll let my jawnz bleed on just about anything. My vans are partially blue, laces on my chucks are blue, wallet's blue, shirts blue, truck seat blue, truck door blue spots. Hell, i'd let em bleed over yeezys, paris sbs, tiffs, just about anything. Just a personal opinion, not really a sneaker head. Cuffs will still sort of bleed through especially on white, and they won't stop for at least like a month especially 710s. Chicks won't wear white pants on certain weeks of the month, i think the least we men could do is where a pair of beater kicks or some boots while our pants bleed. But good luck on that.

[newp]

Ah, finally got these s710xx and tried them on. Hope this will be the last question from an annoying noob like me: right now pre-soak I can barely fit it and button the last button. I am afraid of soaking, I think I won't be able to ever fit in after that. Of course I won't be able to wear it unsaforized, so how should I soak them to be able to do it? Take a bath in warm water instead of hot with them on? Simply soak them in hot water and hope they will stretch afterwards (but to stretch them I have to wear it even once haha)? Right now I am going to do the simple soak without wearing in and turning inside out using b_F instructions, the temperature will be about 42 celcius and simply leave them hanging to dry. Am I doing it right?

tl;dr: How to reduce shrinkage during soaking except cold water soaking?

Edited January 24, 2013 by newp

[Max Power]

^exchange them and don't size down that much.

[newp]

^exchange them and don't size down that much.

Well, exchanging is as much problem as buying new ones. Shipping+tax for new pair will be kinda expensive. Are you sure this is the only valid choice, they won't stretch at all after wearing them and will soak too much?

[beautiful_FrEaK]

they will return to the raw state in the waist if they have to. but if they are uncomfortable now, it won't get better down the line.

how is the fit in the legs and seat? got pictures?

Edited January 24, 2013 by beautiful_FrEaK

[Max Power]

I had the same issues with my 33 Eternals and I am so damn glad I exchanged them. And I could button those... Even if they stretch completely back, they will still fit too tight, right? So it's the only option.

[newp]

they will return to the raw state in the waist if they have to. but if they are uncomfortable now, it won't get better down the line.

how is the fit in the legs and seat? got pictures?

I will post it today. Guess just have to work out and get rid of that skinnyfat belly haha.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

One thing you (newp and everybody) should always be aware of: there is a final size your jeans will shrink to over the years. So it might be fine to do a cold soak now to minimize shrinkage in the first place…but your pair won’t be done and will continue shrinking until it reaches its final size.

So yeah, if you plan to give them some proper washes over the next years (and we are all getting fatter the older we get ) an exchange or sell+buy new pair would be the best option.

[newp]

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Edited February 1, 2013 by newp

[beautiful_FrEaK]

judging by that pics (and your plan to lose weight..although most times that won't happen ), I think it could be doable. I've seen guys trying to make worse fits work.

Edited January 24, 2013 by beautiful_FrEaK

[newp]

I'll try it, thanks a lot. What's better, soak them in cold water or to soak them wearing them in slightly warm water (40 celsius maybe)? I think I will soak them for 50-55 minutes, no more.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

You want to sit nearly one hour in the bathtub? Well...better try to get more shrinkage out now. Put them in the tub with hot water, stick a piece of wood or a hanger in the waist to prevent it from shrinking. If you really wanna go that route.

Otherwise there is still the option of a new pair just to be sure

[newp]

Guess I will follow your advice, fixate the waist and shrink everything else. Thank you!

[Aries]

Honestly I'd exchange, those look pretty tight and they're only going to get tighter after the soak.

[tooth]

Well, exchanging is as much problem as buying new ones. Shipping+tax for new pair will be kinda expensive. Are you sure this is the only valid choice, they won't stretch at all after wearing them and will soak too much?

More expensive than buying a new pair? Looking at your fit pics, I think you'll be saving money by sending them back and actually enjoy wearing them when you get the right size.