Samurai Jeans

[ialex]

i also wear a 28 in my skulls, and i must say that my size 28 s003jp were unbearable at waist after soak and thighs. i still wore them for about a month and half, but there was no sign of stretching... so i couldnt take it anymore lol and now they just chill there. shrinkage is normal, but these are weaved so tight. i think after a wash they would be impossible to wear if u get tts

[frzn]

i also wear a 28 in my skulls, and i must say that my size 28 s003jp were unbearable at waist after soak and thighs. i still wore them for about a month and half, but there was no sign of stretching... so i couldnt take it anymore lol and now they just chill there. shrinkage is normal, but these are weaved so tight. i think after a wash they would be impossible to wear if u get tts

im so happy you told me this lol

so like, what would you say? 29 or 30? i don't want them skin tight after the soak, just slim

[Remedial]

Hi all,

Which of the Japanese shops (specifically in Tokyo) would be best to visit for the widest selection of Samurai Jeans to choose from? I　also would like to know which fit would be best for me. I mainly like the cut of traditional Levi`s 501`s　ＳＴＦ‘ｓ (not the skinny`s)　before washing.

Any help would be appreciated.

Also, if there might be any stores in Kyoto, I`m currently there and can hit them up.

Thanks.

[dbrauns]

Wore my 710s for the 3rd or 4th time today. I wish I would've went down a size, maybe even 2.

[kurrensy]

dbrauns, how did you size on those?

[Potsnu]

I'm assuming TTS the way you should do it. But it also looks like a size 34ish

[LC_Miey]

Wore my 710s for the 3rd or 4th time today. I wish I would've went down a size, maybe even 2.

Dont worry about it, they will keep shrinking after wash.. how did you soak/wash them before wear?

You can always hot wash them to get more shrinkage...

[jaspar]

Dude, just hot rinse them in the machine if you're after a markedly different fit but they look aiight now. Samurais - like most STF Japanese (especially heavier) denims - will shrink over the next few washes; and almost as much after the 1st wash as between raw and your soak so you might as well get more shrinkage out of the way.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Hi all,

Which of the Japanese shops (specifically in Tokyo) would be best to visit for the widest selection of Samurai Jeans to choose from? I　also would like to know which fit would be best for me. I mainly like the cut of traditional Levi`s 501`s　ＳＴＦ‘ｓ (not the skinny`s)　before washing.

Any help would be appreciated.

Also, if there might be any stores in Kyoto, I`m currently there and can hit them up.

Thanks.

I would say take a look into the S0510 and S0500 cut

and about your shopping question I'll give you a quote from some months ago:

"Where not to buy Samurai in Tokyo?"

Just check the denim shops in Tokyo thread and you will find plenty of shops

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Welcome to the slubby and hairy land of the VX denim.

Size comparison

Most of the time the 15oz Texas Cotton denim is named as the most slubby Samurai denim. That's not always the case. My Lot.12 S0500XX is less slubby as the Lot.10 S5000VX above.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Some weeks ago someone asked about the revival of the S0610LX, Samurai's low rise cut. Here it is!

Again only available in even sizes.

15oz Texas Cotton denim.

[Remedial]

I would say take a look into the S0510 and S0500 cut

and about your shopping question I'll give you a quote from some months ago:

"Where not to buy Samurai in Tokyo?"

Just check the denim shops in Tokyo thread and you will find plenty of shops

Thanks for the model suggestions. Guess I'm off to find Tokyo denim spots thread.

[Exit_40mph]

Checkin' in after reading this entire thread... took a few days (weeks?) but hey what better to do than get schooled in the way of the Samurai.

I am looking for a slightly more tapered alternative to Momotaro 0201s but with a higher rise than the Momotaro 0701 offers, and the S710XX caught my eye. Would like to end up post wash with 18.5" (37) waist, no more than 2" shrinkage in the inseam (38) and at least 13.5" thighs.

I think I'm kind of between sizes, would I go tagged size 36 or 38?

I will probably wash lukewarm/cold and never hot wash these to preserve the inseam so I'm thinking 36. My only concern is that my 0201s have 14" thighs that are already pretty slim, so 710s might not be for me. However I kind of need the extra 1.5" inseam length vs. the 0500s to account for shrinkage.

Thanks to everyone who contributes to this thread, it's a great resource. I hope to contribute myself and post pics in the future.

[Stacks]

how can I not help you after you admit to reading through the entire thread.

Based on your desired postwash measurements and washing technique you can probably swing a 36 but it will be tight for a minute. With tension the 36 will stretch back in the waist to a 37" maybe 37.5 long term but post soak/wash will likely be 36. The thighs on a 36 start at 13.5 so expect them to shrink down to somewhere between 13 and 13.25. Again, tension will bring them back out to near-raw or beyond over time.

As for preserving the inseam, I hotwash the shit out of my sammies and just make sure to stretch the inseam back out while damp by hanging a weight on them as they dry (my technique is to attach those suit-hangars with pants clips/bar to the hem while the jeans hang by the waistband (with another hangar) and stick a 5lb weight on it).

If I were you, I would either buy 36 and stick something in the waist during cold soaks/washes to prevent too much waist shrink, OR buy 38 and hotwash 2 times before wearing. In either case, stretch the inseams back out.

One more note: uncomfortably tight jeans rarely get the long-term use that creates amazing evolutions.

[whozdrew?]

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[robosco]

first time posting here

ordered a 710xx 19oz lot 13 from BiG two weeks ago - went TTS, waist 32

very satisfied with the overall fit

presoak:

postsoak:

after 2 weeks:

the construction of these jeans is really just the best quality

(apologize in advance for the crappy quality of largeness of the photos)

[sense.]

good fit and yea i'd have to agree.

i've been trying to find a different brand/model for my next pair but nothing really seems to compare to samurai in terms of fade quality, fit, construction etc..

[dbrauns]

Those look good, I wish I went with a 32 instead of 33. I might still have a lot of shrinking ahead of me though, because even after 2 soaks and 20 minutes in the dryer mine didn't shrink all that much.

[sense.]

through my experience, i'd say that the dryer did less in terms of shrinking than an inside-out, hot wash did.

drying seemed to soften them up way too quickly, and took away from the stiff, rigidness of the denim.

i can say that the fit will certainly change, and you'll be glad they were a tad looser in the beginnig, they will shrink literally every wash from here on.

i have a 36 in the 710xx, true waist is about a 35. in the beginning they seemed too big everywhere and i almost sold them. glad i didn't, because 8 months and 3 washes later they're perfect.

[morse9443]

Nice first post robosco, lurkers take note. Pics are a bit big, but well documented post, and they fit you great. A+. You'll love those pants for a long time..

[Guest nooblet333]

through my experience, i'd say that the dryer did less in terms of shrinking than an inside-out, hot wash did.

drying seemed to soften them up way too quickly, and took away from the stiff, rigidness of the denim.

i can say that the fit will certainly change, and you'll be glad they were a tad looser in the beginnig, they will shrink literally every wash from here on.

i have a 36 in the 710xx, true waist is about a 35. in the beginning they seemed too big everywhere and i almost sold them. glad i didn't, because 8 months and 3 washes later they're perfect.

Haha patience is truly the key eh?

[poly800rock]

i was wondering what has been taking me so long to fade the black knights, but this week, the color has really been falling. so happy to have a pair of these.

[morse9443]

^pics please poly

[HoustonChris]

Nice first post robosco, lurkers take note. Pics are a bit big, but well documented post, and they fit you great. A+.

QFT.

10char

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Checkin' in after reading this entire thread... took a few days (weeks?) but hey what better to do than get schooled in the way of the Samurai.

I am looking for a slightly more tapered alternative to Momotaro 0201s but with a higher rise than the Momotaro 0701 offers, and the S710XX caught my eye. Would like to end up post wash with 18.5" (37) waist, no more than 2" shrinkage in the inseam (38) and at least 13.5" thighs.

I think I'm kind of between sizes, would I go tagged size 36 or 38?

I will probably wash lukewarm/cold and never hot wash these to preserve the inseam so I'm thinking 36. My only concern is that my 0201s have 14" thighs that are already pretty slim, so 710s might not be for me. However I kind of need the extra 1.5" inseam length vs. the 0500s to account for shrinkage.

Thanks to everyone who contributes to this thread, it's a great resource. I hope to contribute myself and post pics in the future.

Where do you plan to order from? That's also kinda important as you might have the chance to exchange them when ordering from certain shops.

On top of that, if the thighs are the biggest concern you might better look into the S0500XX which will give you some more room in that area

[beautiful_FrEaK]

As requested by MaxPower.

Inside of the VX denim

And while I was shooting, I did some more.

Comparison of 15oz Texas Cotton vs. 17oz VX denim

Guess what is what ;-)

Inside and macros of 15oz TexasCotton

[Max Power]

Whoa, great macros and slubs. You're getting better and better in taking photos. Outta rep for you.

[Stacks]

i was wondering what has been taking me so long to fade the black knights, but this week, the color has really been falling. so happy to have a pair of these.

I got frustrated with mine (slow fade) but they are my go-to black jeans. Looking forward to seeing pics.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

^pics please poly

I quote this because I want some pics too

and now for something completely different:

for all who thought their S3000VX has a flaw on the inner crotch seam (notice the open denim just below the fly)

This was done with intent. I first thought my pair would be defective

[beautiful_FrEaK]

So and another announcement.

Samurai Goodbye 2010 model is up.

S3000VX cut with 21oz denim

Some impressions: