Samurai Jeans

[selaviso]

wait so big can sell em with white tabs? verrrry interesting. i like the white tab.

[avonalliv8]

Nice. Going to post fit pics?

nope. i am about 14 months into a pair of 610s. going to ride them out for a little longer before switching to these.

i actually went into BiG with no intention of buying anything. 20 minutes later, i walk out with white tab 710s. i am very weak...

[avonalliv8]

wait so big can sell em with white tabs? verrrry interesting. i like the white tab.

i dont think theyre supposed to, but if you ask nicely, they may be able to find some "in the back"

[GreenFrog]

If my waist is 31", what size do I need to get in the s710?

I was thinking a size 29 because that translates to 30.5" according to BiG. I also do not plan on hot-soaking it. Do I have to? Is this strictly shrink-to-fit, or can I simply just wear it and then wash it for the first time later after having worn it for awhile?

Also, how does the S710 compare to the S0505XX? It seems like no one gets the s0505, which I'm also really interested in because of the zipper fly (really sick of button flys).

[Headmut]

^^similar question.

710 (lot 13) owners...I usually wear

-APC NC 28

Nudie, N&F, and LVC 30.

What would you recommend? I was thinking 29, but how many inches are they going to shrink?

[avonalliv8]

If my waist is 31", what size do I need to get in the s710?

I was thinking a size 29 because that translates to 30.5" according to BiG. I also do not plan on hot-soaking it. Do I have to? Is this strictly shrink-to-fit, or can I simply just wear it and then wash it for the first time later after having worn it for awhile?

Also, how does the S710 compare to the S0505XX? It seems like no one gets the s0505, which I'm also really interested in because of the zipper fly (really sick of button flys).

it depends what lot you get. just email them your waist and see what gordon thinks and what different lots they have in stock. you absolutely should hot soak or wash them when getting them. all samurais will shrink a great deal for at least the first 3-4 times they touch water. if you dont feel comfortable doing this, maybe sams arent right for you and you should try a pair of sanforized denim.

try reading up on the first page of this thread. it should answer all of your questions.

[vespr^1198s]

unsanforized denim will shrink quite a bit. if you do forgo the hot soak, all of your combs and stacks will be misaligned when the inseams shrink up when you wash your sams for the first time after having worn them for a while,

+1 on avonalliv8's advice, give gordon a call at BiG and work it out with him.

[arem]

People overstate the problem of your "stacks and combs" moving, it's not like they are going to move 8 inches. The stacks are still at the bottom of your legs, and the everything else will move an inch or inch and a half at most. If you really don't want to soak the jeans will not combust, so do what you wanna.

That said, it's still a very good idea to give them a soak to get some of the starch and sizing out of the denim, if you don't you will increase the likelihood of rips and tears happening.

[kit99bar]

my 710s fit like garbage bags before three hot soaks got them down to fit slim. Just another thing to keep in mind if you dont soak em.

[gonegonegone]

my 710s fit like garbage bags before three hot soaks got them down to fit slim. Just another thing to keep in mind if you dont soak em.

that is absolutely true. i would even recommend 1-2 hot washes.

[GreenFrog]

1-2 hot soaks before starting to wear them?

so if I get the s710s in a size 31 (true to size) and hot soak them, it wont stretch back out to it's pre-soak size of 32" right?

thanks guys, i appreciate all the helpful input

[Stacks]

it will if wherever you wear your jeans is 32".

As long as you fit your jeans to your true waist, normal wear shouldn't stretch out past your raw state waist measurement. If you size down a lot you can probably stretch the waist out past raw on some models by .5-1" (maybe more if you go ballcruncher).

[sense.]

that is absolutely true. i would even recommend 1-2 hot washes.

my 710s fit like garbage bags before three hot soaks got them down to fit slim. Just another thing to keep in mind if you dont soak em.

same, took me about 4/5 warm soaks to get them down to a fit i was happy with. i went tts btw.

almost 3 months in and they still shrink after being soaked.

[kit99bar]

Presoak measures on my Lot 12 size 33 S0500s Texas Cotton

surprisingly the measurements match what 32 should be.

Waist: 34

Front Rise: 11.1

Back Rise: 15.25

Thigh: 12.5-12.6

Leg Opening (hemmed to 35): 8.5

[dawei69]

You are probably not measuring correctly, from what i can tell, those measurements are closer to a size 31....

[kit99bar]

Dawei - I think you are right about my pre thigh measurement. I didn't pull the material taunt.

post the first soak. Definitely a lot more shrinkage left.

Waist: 32.5

Front Rise: 10.5

Back Rise: 14.6

Thigh: 12.5

Leg Opening: 8.25

[kit99bar]

[thedoad]

5000vx. 1 cold. 1 super hot machine wash / soak then dryer. More?

[chantheman]

i think thats sufficient to get most of it out.

[Guest patchmb]

^ thedoad, did you hem those ? inseam looks a little short .

[thedoad]

^ thedoad, did you hem those ? inseam looks a little short .

it is for sure. I bought them from another member at a very low price since his tailor Cut them hem too much. . They look much better in non slip on's but Frankly I'm fine with it after wearing a few stacked pairs. especially @ the price. Another Inch would be nice but here we are.

[mad_dye]

24 oz LHT to be released in June.

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.samurai-j.com/samurai/article/%3Fp%3D3005&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.samurai-j.com/samurai/blog/%26hl%3Den%26c&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhjBSKSfc4cRush1KiA7TTE-1MboPw

[Stacks]

fuck yessss

no brainer right there - Samurai gods heard my prayers in LHT contest thread!

(500th post, fuck)

[beautiful_FrEaK]

well...those have to be bought, right?!

[edmond]

i havent seen a pair yet i wanna pre order those !

[everyinchofgod]

24 oz LHT to be released in June.

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.samurai-j.com/samurai/article/%3Fp%3D3005&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.samurai-j.com/samurai/blog/%26hl%3Den%26c&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhjBSKSfc4cRush1KiA7TTE-1MboPw

You can always depend on google translate for a good laugh. I have no idea what that post said, but the pics were cool anyway.

[arem]

Should have been the 500 cut, not the 510.

[edmond]

nah 5000 are not that popular in jp

[beautiful_FrEaK]

And I'm very happy with the 510XX 21oz. The 510 is an underrated cut IMO and not as baggy as most of you guys probably think

The trend goes to fuller cuts anyway

[rnrswitch]

The 510 is by far my favorite cut for the Samurais. It is a real workers cut. Leaves room for moving freely and no worries of crotch blowouts.