A.P.C.

[unknownnames]

I looking to buy APC online, but which APC cutting close to Flat Head 3001?

[lucaas]

I guess it will be APC New Standard.

[triumph.man]

I looking to buy APC online, but which APC cutting close to Flat Head 3001?

Apc's are more tapered, compared to FH3001 which fit more like a straight leg... nc = more tapered, ns = less tapered

[Martybear]

APC PS came in the mail today, my first pair of raw denim. I sized down two to get a 26(5'4" 120 pounds). I pulled them out and they were so stiff it was like cardboard. Looked on the tag, size 24, WTF. So now I have to send them back and hope they arrive before Christmas.

[aleopold]

Apc's are more tapered, compared to FH3001 which fit more like a straight leg... nc = more tapered, ns = less tapered

nc = more tapered, ns = less tapered, rescue = no taper

for a straight leg go with the rescue "sized down."

[saintkeat]

so now my top button hole has ripped considerably, wouldn't bother if i hadn't noticed its almost ripped through to the edge. no idea how my tailor is going to fix this. anyone had this before?

[asher_roslynn]

Not APC related, but that happened to my Diors to a couple buttons. I only have the clasp and two of the lower buttons holding the fly up haha

[Danny @ Rivet & Hide]

whipstitching should repair the hole to some degree

[rvoe30]

A number of people have messaged me about my PS sizing

so I thought I might as well make a post about it to possibly help other people.

I picked the size that was 2 less than what my waist measured in inches [27" waist - 2 = size 25 (does this mean I sized down 2?)].

When I first got them they were very tight and sat on my waist and I was able to button them all the way up.

Over time they did stretch quite a bit:

However, I actually wear them on my hips because its more comfortable. I think they fit perfectly:

Inseams:

I did not hem these and I am 5'6".

However, I measured the inseam and they are now 32" not 34".

Keep this in mind if you decide to hem or else they'll end up like my NS:

I had these cut to 30" and they're now at about 28".

Washing:

I did 2 ocean washes and 1 machine wash on my PS.

What I did for the ocean wash is salt water > sand > salt water > sand > salt water > fresh water.

If you do this, go commando. I didn't do this the first time I got weird lines from my shorts underneath.

For the machine wash I used cold water and some industrial laundry soap that you can get at Costco. Its a huge tub and its white.

Drying:

I just hang them outside.

How I get my fades:

I bike to class and thats about all the activity I do.

So yeah I think thats it. I hope this helps someone in the future.

[avexdevil]

gah im undecided.

i'm a true waist 29/30, ive been wearing a sz 26 ns for a year and half now, i like the fit from my thighs down, i just don't quite like the high rise on them...

i'm now considering sz 28 ps, would those be too big for me? I like to hang them around my butt region though...

[ceej]

gah im undecided.

i'm a true waist 29/30, ive been wearing a sz 26 ns for a year and half now, i like the fit from my thighs down, i just don't quite like the high rise on them...

i'm now considering sz 28 ps, would those be too big for me? I like to hang them around my butt region though...

I'd go with the 27, it should stretch enough to sit low, but it really depends how slim of a fit you're looking for.

The waist should stretch to fit with either the 27 or 28, neither would be too big but the 28 would definitely be looser in the thighs

[FiveFell]

My fade progress.

Sorry about the lighting in advance.

it looks a bit like its black but the lighting in my room just sucks.

around 4 months of continual wear and then another 2 of on and off wear.

right before the first wash.

[avexdevil]

I'd go with the 27, it should stretch enough to sit low, but it really depends how slim of a fit you're looking for.

The waist should stretch to fit with either the 27 or 28, neither would be too big but the 28 would definitely be looser in the thighs

thanks for the input. now that you have mentioned it, i looked up contextclothing and the thigh measurements on the PS are so much wider than the NS...10.5 on the sz28! that's way too loose even before stretching...

wonder how they derive those measurements.

[ceej]

thanks for the input. now that you have mentioned it, i looked up contextclothing and the thigh measurements on the PS are so much wider than the NS...10.5 on the sz28! that's way too loose even before stretching...

wonder how they derive those measurements.

the measurements at context are well known to be pretty greasy, I wouldnt rely too much on them. The petit standard are a slimmer, more tapered, low rise version of the new standard so it wouldnt make any sense for their measurements to be larger

[avexdevil]

well the other measurements seem to tally with it being a slimmer fit...but that would mean a massive taper on the PS going from a 10.5 thigh to a 6.75 opening...thought it was a straight cut...

sz 28 seems to be my only 'local' option, 27 has to be ordered from overseas...

[Fenderman]

I'm looking for a raw black new standard.

The black should be comparable with Dior black Raw jeans.

So I went to the apc.fr page, but the europe one only shows me two different "washed black" ones.

Can you tell me which on is the original normal black raw denim?

Thanks!

[saintkeat]

my size 26 PS has a thigh measurement of 10.75. maybe they stretched hmmm....

and raw blacks would be listed as Raw Black on the apc site. if its not then it ain't raw. for some reason apc site isn't loading for me right now.

[ceej]

well the other measurements seem to tally with it being a slimmer fit...but that would mean a massive taper on the PS going from a 10.5 thigh to a 6.75 opening...thought it was a straight cut...

no the ps is definitely tapered, not as much as the new cure but its for sure not a straight leg

[spike27z]

PS is the most tapered.

NC is the most skinny overall.

[callejeros]

New Cure size 33 (sized down 1)

6 1/2 months - One rain soak at month 2 and 1 soak at 6 months

[computurd]

I really like how my NS fit in the waist and where they sit post stretch

Should I get the same size in PS (25) or size down further to a 24

I never had trouble buttoning up my NS but I dont want my PS to be completely loose in the top block like what happened to my size 26 NC

I want it to fit more like this by the end of it, not skin tight leggings but quite slim

[ceej]

PS is the most tapered.

NC is the most skinny overall.

is this true? I thought the NC was more tapered, considering it's tapered so much they can't even keep the exposed selvedge line because the taper cuts through it?

[rvoe30]

I really like how my NS fit in the waist and where they sit post stretch

Should I get the same size in PS (25) or size down further to a 24

I never had trouble buttoning up my NS but I dont want my PS to be completely loose in the top block like what happened to my size 26 NC

Do my PS fit like that (see previous page)

I got 25 in both PS and NS

[povatix]

PS is the most tapered.

NC is the most skinny overall.

It's the other way around.

NC = most taper

PS = most skinny overall

[elixile]

lolno dude.

The PS is definitely the tapered APC cut. NC is more of a skinny straight with its slightly larger leg opening but smaller thighs whereas PS has the lower rise with roomier thighs to a smaller leg opening.

[Gold Soaked Afternoon]

^ I think you're wrong, NC is more tapered, but has a larger rise/top block area. The reason for the lack of selvedge is the slight flare at the leg opening, not the tapered cut.

The PS is more straight leg, but has a miniature rise. Context's sizing chart doesn't really reinforce the above, but I'm quite sure its true.

[rvoe30]

I think this is the upshot of all this

PS & NC > tight

Oh and NC is more tapered. Just look at it. Someone had a diagram on here before that lays out all the cuts on top of each other.

[reallypeacedoff]

lolno dude.

The PS is definitely the tapered APC cut. NC is more of a skinny straight with its slightly larger leg opening but smaller thighs whereas PS has the lower rise with roomier thighs to a smaller leg opening.

This is correct!

NS is slightly tapered but gives a look of a more straight leg jean.

PS is the tapered version of the NS in the same size.

NC is also tapered but flares out at the leg opening so it appears substantially skinnier in thighs but less skinny from calves to leg opening.

I at one stage owned all three, NS 31, PS 31 and NC 32 (actual waist is 34.5" so I sized down 2 on all cutsas far as their measured waist was cncerned) and let me tell you from my sizing: NS and PS are almost identical except for the fact that the PS has a much lower rise and from knee down, appear very skinny in the same size. NC sized up one from my NS/PS sizing (NC waist runs a size smaller than the other 2) was way slimmer in thigh, butt and calves but leg opening makes it look less skinny than the PS.

In fact, I think the NC is cut is the worst cut known to man. High rise, tight butt, tight thighs, tight calves and a flare leg opening? WTF! Sounds like a woman's jean to me.

[ThrusH]

For all those too lazy to search through the thread:

Rescue = Straight

NS = Slim Straight

NC = Skinny

PS = Tapered

I'm 99.9% sure that's correct.

[lucaas]

latest update from Wall of Fades (Indonesian Denim Exhibition)

APC New Cure

16 months.

lots of washes. 1 seawash.