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Snagged these 22501XX from @srudy last month, and by chance started wearing them on 5/01 day I love this denim and lucked out on the fit - they fit me as good as anything else ever has The cut is real good in contrast to the "22501" cut I had some years back - and at a tagged 34 they measure about 31" after a shrink That's barely 1" larger post shrink than the tagged 28 waist "22501" (a different cut but 6 tagged sizes smaller...) Not exactly an apples to apples comparison, but a WW2 501 jean under the same umbrella having such a massive disparity in sizing is... interesting!

WMJ getting some miles in the Lake District this week. I thought England was supposed to be cloudy and rainy?!

So... to add a bit of spice to the #WoMCon, our very own @Duke Mantee has only gone and made this cracking mini trucker wallet as a prize. What you say. What indeed. Anyone who knows Mike will know what a kind, generous, top bloke he is... this is just another example... massive thanks mate!!! The wallet will be awarded as a prize to the contestant who provides the most posting entertainment over the contest duration. That's it. So it's posting and shenanigans ftw!! It'll be judged by @Maynard Friedman, @Duke Mantee and Simone. Maynard will kindly organise the vote and announce the winner at the same time as the overall contest winner. I now have that ^ wallet in my possession... and it's a beauty!!! Good luck folks!!!

Gardener's has re-released a 1943 model, all iron laurel buttons, no rust proofing, flannel pocket bags, 35 inch inseam in one wash state: https://store.spiraljeans.jp/en-us/products/gardener_1943xx-コピー and a type 2 adjacent jacket, squared pockets, single row stitched pleats, very tapered: https://store.spiraljeans.jp/en-us/products/gardener_579xx-コピー Both seem to use all lemon thread and same denim. They both look really slick and I'd hope to see them on the forum.

CSF-46s

Rototo / TCB / Freewheelers / Canes / Warehouse... with a big thanks to another top bloke @Geeman for the sneakers

Pollen Seeds

Spiral's measurements for the 1943 lists inseams at around 91-92 cm one wash, so closer to 36 possibly. I'm guessing the fella in the photo had them hemmed or else he could have been a ball player.

Warehouse... new to me... with big thanks to our favourite Brummie @Geeman (closely followed by Benny from Crossroads, of course)

Surely there must be a Tender Co fan out there somewhere with some parsley and radishes sprouting out the cuffs of their Oxford jeans. This is what I choose to believe anyway 😄

The type ii looks like a Copper King/ Can’t Bust ‘Em repro https://vintage-mushroom.net/?pid=178886059 I actually like the pocket flaps…

@Dr_Heech some 1937s for you: https://gardeneroveralls.com/魅力的なヴィンテージとの出会い。/

@Double 0 Soul you ever have this happen to your 1947?

Tender Co. x4 / Tezomeya / Duke / Russell + Family The elephant ear satchel is a huge hit !!!!

I didn't hesitate ....

So what is he saying? I think there were jacket and jeans available at Barnstormer a few years ago. But they sold really quickly. And then afterwards there were events at the Barnstormer shop, where customers could buy. It seems he prefers to have customers see and feel his products before buying. Except for some items that he sometimes puts up in his online shop. He has interesting blog articles, always testing and researching more and more. Sounds great. I'm writing the following from the info on his blog to sort all the info for me. And it might be of interest to others here. He seems to want to stay close to the vintage originals, also in their cuts. Making jackets longer or narrower to make the silhouette more modern or fashionable is not his philosophy. The aim is to make his products indistinguishable from original vintage items, when one ignores the brand name on the buttons or patches. His first fabric apparently was LF44 (low tension 12.5oz denim). And then in January 2024 he came out with a new one, NP01. The NP01 is a much darker dyed fabric (original 12oz denim). Then in November NP02 he developed the NP01 further and changed its name to SO02. In November he also introduced another denim fabric, the SL01- a special order fabric made by the Okamoto mill in Okayama. He developed this denim in close collaboration with the president Okamoto. It's around 13oz. It seems to have as he writes on his blog "the characteristic bounce, elasticity, and stickiness of vintage denim, as well as a "dried-out feel." His trousers are all called S01XX (no matter where pre war, war or post war models.) And similarly for the jackets S06XX. The Okamoto Textile company has been mentioned on this board before, nearly 20 years ago.

Damn! That’s even more of a quandary My next work jacket is a war model 506 with no flap, the only disadvantage will be the open pocket constantly filling up with wood shavings.. it’s the same with cuffs / turn ups.. they always collect sawdust. When I lived in the countryside.. i’d walk through meadows at this time of year and my cuffs would be full of seeds.. if it rained and my jeans got wet, they would germinate then die from lack of water.. I always fancied watering my turn ups and growing a mini, flowering meadow in the bottom of my jeans

I was thinking the same. Seems to be a trend to revive old in-shop (?) brands. Where they all in-shop brands or independent? Probably a lot more available. Like Levin Scheme, RRR, and many others. @Double 0 Soul knows 1 or 2 more

Post-wash (maybe no. 4?) The way these are fading is funny. I agree with the building consensus that they seem to have shed a lot of indigo right at the start and then slowed down to a much more normal rate, which I appreciate. That said, something’s still different. Almost all of my slimmer-fitting jeans end up with pretty much the same pattern of whiskers, and these still have very little to speak of in that department. Meanwhile, the outer-most yarns covering the hidden rivets are already wearing through (one of my favorite bits of aging on any jeans), which usually takes years for me. Maybe it’s the jeans, or maybe my lifestyle has just changed in the past year in more ways than I’ve noticed. I'll be really interested to see where they end up. Two issues showing up so far, one very minor and one less so: The yoke seam wasn’t folded great during construction (or maybe there just wasn’t quite enough allowance), and it’s opening and fraying a bit near the right outseam; and and one of the hidden rivets has come partially undone. Rivet failures have always been a real pet peeve of mine, since they’re supposed to be the last thing holding the jeans together, and a hidden rivet failure is all the more frustrating since it’s not one that’s straightforward to replace at home. Not a huge deal, in the end—it’s not like the pocket’s going to be falling off anytime soon—but it does feel like a shame.

As they have hidden rivets but no cinch, and they’re not 44s, they’re either 47, 54Z, 55 or 551ZXX. I’ll go for 47s as the pockets don’t look pointy enough for 55s and the zip models are less common.

My summer wear & tear pair hang drying after it‘s initial soak. Can you guess which 501 it is 😉?

I would love see a DenimJunkie revival!

First Silverstone Ground-alls and now Gardener. I wonder if there are any other dormant Japanese repro companies out there about to be resurrected?

I don't find them particularly slim. For the W34 the hem is 22cm (8.66 "). So not super wider either. With the Jenkins shirt.

Just some update photo Now when i received from Dr. Ha ha still have long way to go

These finally showed up after some years…

Okay, since you‘re the only participant in this contest 😉: 1954Z

Sorry, nope 🤷🏼‍♂️

1944

Feels cheap (worse than -E), totally not windproof=>ok for summer time, pretty floppy, no stretch. P30 in - e/-ds is the better choice.

That’s New England you’re confusing us with! Or possibly Scotland.

Yes. Channel locks, level, and tape measure on us at all times. They don’t stay in the vest very well so tend to get out in pockets. Never had them burn through the bottom like this before. May need to stuff a bandanna in the pocket to protect the hole. Haha

Looks great! Still bummed l couldn't afford a pair of Hinoya 41's

^ I’ve had to do this on my pair 3 times now. That said, I had to do that on my OA’s too once I was back bike commuting more. I stitched WMJ pair last about 6 weeks ago and have put quite a few miles on since without any issue, though the fabric will need darning at some point, so I’m swapping them out for the ride sometimes. Whiskers on my pair seem about normal for me, fwiw. But pretty much no combs. edit - actually have had to do this repair on basically every pair I’ve ever owned that had cotton thread, so for me, this isnt remarkable for wmj. Except Freewheelers. Are we sure Freewheelers isn’t poly cotton?! Ha.

Ikr! .. it's like the second summer of love.. we're living through a golden age people!.. i like to think we're a contributing factor. Nobody mention cash grab..

Ha! .. no, all my tools live on my bench. I get a bit of damage to the opening of the front pockets from the tape measure clip but i nvr carry tools around in my pockets

Weird isn't it.. it came at a time of artistic licence in the SC timeline (1998-2003) after a period of strict reproduction when SC were being creative with their own interpretation of cuts / eras. Up to 98, it was strictly repro, 98-03 was the Interpretations.. followed by a return to repros in 2003 with their creativity focussed on their dying techniques and sugarcane blended fabrics rather than flight of fancy. In 1997 Sugarcane made an "anti-replica'" declaraion.. writing in the magazine "Jeans The Complete Edition" they announced their pursuit of originality.. it was known as their 'breaking away from replicas period'.. they noted that "we will only make jeans which reflect our own particular preference" The M11619 above was their interpretation of a 506.. ..and this M11400 ..was their interpretation of a 507

I'm on a roof. Gildan, diy, rrr, boa

@Broark I contacted the guy behind Slash Overall's as well regarding an order. I would really like a pair of his "vintage aged" jeans with his proprietary denim. https://slashoverall.base.shop/blog/2025/02/08/214931 https://slashoverall.base.shop/blog/2024/11/30/142325

Slash / Freewheelers / Codina / SC 1943 / Nicks

M11026 & Valencia 506XX

Really love the denim on these 47s. Very soft and stretchy. Kind of the opposite to what I was expecting from cones 40s type fabric but maybe that's my misconception. Could also be because they are well worn. Reminds me of the resolute 714s I had. I have some LVC 66 japan made arriving soon so will be nice to compare.

Do you measure the thighs like BIG? https://www.blueingreensoho.com/pages/measurement-guide#tab1 For the W34 I got 34cm (ca. 13.4") in the S601XX with denim pocket bags. They are a bit slimmer than my W33 in the FW1937s, but not much.

Just to show some comparison for 33 waist. Rise and leg room are the two most important measurements for me these days. The new s601xx has a small thigh measurement S601xx war with olive pocket bags 33.5 cm thigh 13.2” S601xx late war model denim pocket bags 31.5cm thigh 12.4” 1947 601xx 32cm thigh 12.6”

I've sometimes wished that the spotlight that shines on the niche range of 501XX available during the early 1940s would shine on the niche range of 501XX available during the early 1920s (1915-1921 model, 1922-1925 model, 1926, 1927, 1928-1934 model - l'm guessing here) but at the same time, l'm glad they haven't, at least for my wallet's sake. Probably not as marketable as the WW2 stuff though.

Little Hand is exposed https://www.instagram.com/p/DIxi-HETC-W/?igsh=MXhlcDZ6cjM0c2Uyeg==

Thanks! I believe all of his models are listed as "S01XX", so I don't think it really is a tell either way. The denim is pretty dark, here's another photo on a different, lighter background.

Photo dump. Broke my Midnight Riders Dungarees out today. Wish they were slightly shorter and slightly looser in the top block. Maybe I'll be lucky enough to find a bigger size someday. The beautiful 10 oz denim on these is aging wonderfully.

1960's Big Mac dungarees with lots of repairs still going strong.