The Osaka Five

[louisbosco]

brilliant one kyle!

[Broark]

Nice article Kyle, I'm always interested in the history of the Osaka 5.  Now I just need to get a pair from each!  

I've already got my Warehouse 1001's which I love, next I'm thinking Fullcount.

[mpukas]

Great article Kyle - thanks! 

[mpukas]

Mhh...and if that article just works as an overview with a detailed spot lights on every brand of the Osaka5 later on (like you did with Samurai)?

 

 

Got a clicky for the Samurai article? 

[Cold Summer]

If you guys ever come across stuff that looks like information in Japanese concerning these brands, just let me know, and I'll do my best to translate/summarize what it says.  I looked for info on each brand's history in Japanese but found a lot less than I expected.

[bradl]

I was scouring for awhile, but such little information is out there (that I could find)..

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Got a clicky for the Samurai article? 

 there you go

http://www.rawrdenim.com/2014/01/samurai-jeans-spotlight-what-you-need-to-know/

[Cold Summer]

Hah!  I completely forgot I wrote that one.  I'm really slipping.

 

Probably starting next month, you'll see a lot more denim-related writing out of me, I intend to do more brand profiles like that in the near future.

[louisbosco]

sounds awesome. do let us know when it's out.

[mpukas]

Thanks bF

 

Kyle - yes, please keep us posted! 

 

One thing that is interesting to me is the circle that denim has taken - it started out in the west being born out of function. The Japanese have developed an affinity for it, making better versions than ever previously existed. Now westerners are inspired to make their own improved and unique versions, better than what existed before, sometimes rivaling the Japanese versions.  

 

Kitchen knives, in particular the gyuto or chef's knife, have an almost identical circle. 

[A-pink]

my 4 osaka ^^

[A-pink]

[beautiful_FrEaK]

those Warehouse...and those Denime

[Mr-Bielby]

You need to finish the set there!

[Blue Nemo]

head over to

 

 

https://denimartistpp.wordpress.com/2015/02/27/the-story-of-the-osaka-5/

 

 

for a new article by perry goh (via fb) about the osaka five. havn't read it yet, but besides the subject awesomeness, perry does solid work too!

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Basically it's just a copy&paste of  this older article

 

http://www.japanesestreets.com/reports/1313/the-quest-for-perfect-jeans

 

but at least he gives credit to the original article

[Blue Nemo]

guess I should have read it first then >_>

 

maaaan that sucks, my fault though. just wanted to save me a nice read when i found some new coffee.....

Edited February 27, 2015 by Blue Nemo

[beautiful_FrEaK]

wouldn't have hurt

 

But Osaka5 is Osaka5 and they are great

[Graytrain]

I've got a question after reading that article. It gave the distinct impression that once Hayashi left the company, Denime has changed in its "soul" so to speak. Is this true? How has this shown itself in the jeans? 

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Well, the “soul†of a band is a very subjective feeling and there are certainly different views on that topic. Of course, you will find more discussion about that topic in the dedicated Denime-thread here on Sufu where I and others have raised their opinion.

But in general you can say, that most people are lusting after the old Denime models under Hayashi-san. Because they are better or because they are rarer and thus “cooler� Your decision.

 

My take on how the jeans changed: I liked the old denim better and more interesting but the construction under the new owner is way better than it was under Hayashi-san.

This is my opinion after owning 3 of the new models (XX type, 66XX and 25^th anniversary) and owning several of the old models.

But if you offer me an old Denime 66XX or a new one…I would take the old one without thinking twice

Edited March 2, 2015 by beautiful_FrEaK

[Mr-Bielby]

I wonder though how many thought for the worse when it changed from orronzi to shins?

I haven't yet worn my new owner denime enough to compare with the old fully but they only major difference I can see is the removal of the tab

[Maynard Friedman]

Do you think the denim is the same Mr B? I have no experience of Denime so couldn't comment.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

and change of fits (at least for the 66XX )

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Do you think the denim is the same Mr B? I have no experience of Denime so couldn't comment.

 

based on my personal experience, the denim for the XX is different. This feeling is fueled by the article which is saying, under RMC they spread the denim production to several smaller mills. So they certainly changed suppliers

[Mr-Bielby]

The older ones I have look a bit rougher and uneven that the new, but my newer ones seen to be going by that way. Then again I look that my new 66XX and in comparison to my 1951's I struggle to tell that much difference over the same amount of wear.

I find it hard to believe that someone would buy a successful company and change everything that made it loved?

I know at the start the new company tried to introduce a 47 cut as their XX but that didn't seem to last. And the 66XX came back.

Either way the new stuff is still a great product and I enjoy them every time I wear.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

The 66XX came back but it is a complete new fit. Low(er) rise, more taper, less inseam.

When RMC took over they introduced, as you said, some new fits: the New66, the NewXX and so on. Most of them had a significant lower rise

 

Of course, it sounds stupid to buy a successful (???) and change everything: but IMO at least the XX denim changed. But don't get me wrong: the new denim isn't a bad denim, is it just different

[Graytrain]

Thank you all for the commentary. The history behind it all is fascinating. 

[Maynard Friedman]

The Osaka Three!

L-R: Warehouse Warren, Full Count 0105 SFS, Studio D’artisan SD-101. Arcs worn out on all three pairs. Killing time during self-isolation/working from home, apologies for the bad light.

[edmond]

ill talk  the following big bosses on the signet store Instagram live

 

miki san of  fullcount on april 22 1500 hours manila time

 

haysahi san of resolute and denime fame on april 27  1500 hours manila time

 

we have others too but yeah both of them fromt he osaka 5

[Bobbo]

Shoddy lighting, but here's the Osaka 5-ones at home. Some too small now, some yet to be worn.