atlast&co , butcher products , timeworn clothing

[Alec Leamas]

12 hours ago, southofnonorth said:

Anyone else notice any significant price increases with this collection? I put in an order for a pair of the U-tip shoes, which are ¥140,000 compared to ¥87,890 when I last bought them. Albeit, I bought them from Timeworn in Japan last time.

There have been massive price increases on the shoes - I don't know whether this extends to any of their leather goods, but I knew it was happening with shoes. The side gore boots went up to about that as well - makes my purchase from DC4 a few months ago a huge win!

[Alec Leamas]

On 11/11/2025 at 8:08 PM, southofnonorth said:

@Alec Leamas nice 203…

In my experience the 126 cut is quite different – straight with a narrow hip. I have a 30 in both, but given another opportunity I’d buy the 126 a size larger

 

 

Funnily enough, when I saw this post, I'd already nabbed a pair on FJ - unworn, one-washed, with a nice clean hem done ever so slightly longer than I would but still, just about right - and in a 32 too like my 203.

They arrived today, and...

You are indeed not wrong, much slimmer through the hip and a lower rise too! Though the waist seems fine so wouldn't work for me sizing up.

Not given them a proper wear yet so can't make a full and honest assessment.

Edited November 19, 2025 by Alec Leamas

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Has anyone found a good source for all the seasonal items, ofcourse there is instagram but you are never quiet sure which is acutually from the new season.

The magazine is quiet empty this time...

[l13902733261]

I find email enquire to be the most effective way.

[Alec Leamas]

I agree with the above, I would also say they would be cool with you sending a screenshot from IG and asking whether x, y or z was current season and if it’s in stock etc!

[SLAYER]

2 hours ago, l13902733261 said:

I find email enquire to be the most effective way.

yes that's what i've been using but you can only ask for stuff you know exists thats my point

[Alec Leamas]

So the 126 didn’t work out.

Compared to the 203 they are just so slim through the hip and that continues down the thigh too. I like the look of them but the cut just won’t work for me.

Just giving them another wash and will pop them up for sale on here shortly before them going to Vinted and eBay too!

I’ll share measurements once they’ve dried.

[Alec Leamas]

Lot 118J size 40

Also picked up some lot 162 jeans in a 34 but was too keen and whacked them straight in the wash. They’ve been shared before by @MJF9 but I got some measurements at least before washing so I’ll do a little pre and post before they head off for hemming!

 

[ColdsnapBryan]

If anyone has the white jean from this collection in a 34 and it's not working out for you, let me know!

I've also got the Khaki and Blue Twill Shirts from this collection in size 16 for sale. Brand new. Amazing shirts. Got my sizes mixed up and picked up the wrong size when in Japan this week though. So I'll need to reorder and sell these along. If anyone's interested. 

Edited December 19, 2025 by ColdsnapBryan

[okimoto]

Side Gore boots paired with a Tenderloin shirt and The Vanishing West

[ColdsnapBryan]

Few sizing questions. How might I size the Side gore boots? I've got a pair of Blundstones and I could do better. I'm a 8.5E on Brannock, E width from wideness of feet but I have a pretty slim foot volume. 

And then lot 161 jeans, do I size this the same to my 147? 147 are good in size 34, but I can't really go with anything bigger. And it seems like a big jump to size down to 32?

[okimoto]

@ColdsnapBryan  I wear a 7.5 in Blundstones (US 8 wide since half sizes only change width) and took a size 8 in the side gore boots and they fit well. As for the 161 and 147, my 147 are W30 and I have a pair of 161 in the same size on the way. I will put some measurements up comparing the two once received.

@Alec Leamas any comments on the boot sizing?

[ColdsnapBryan]

1 hour ago, okimoto said:

@ColdsnapBryan  I wear a 7.5 in Blundstones (US 8 wide since half sizes only change width) and took a size 8 in the side gore boots and they fit well. As for the 161 and 147, my 147 are W30 and I have a pair of 161 in the same size on the way. I will put some measurements up comparing the two once received.

@Alec Leamas any comments on the boot sizing?

 

Cheers. I have a 7UK in Blundstones, us to size them 7.5/8 but they stretch out like crazy so I went down to a 7UK. So maybe TTS a size 8 would work.

Thanks on the 161 vs 147 comparisons! Looking for ward to it. 

[southofnonorth]

I have a pair of 147 and 161, both are size 30 and both fit. The 146 are slimmer in the hips, seat, and thigh, but are a heavier oz, less forgiving denim.

I would not recommend going down two sizes for the 161, unless the 147 already feel big in the hips and seat?

 

 

 

 

 

[Signet]

161 generally you need to size down  if your size on the 147 is perfect 1 size down  would work

[Alec Leamas]

On 12/25/2025 at 5:44 PM, okimoto said:

@ColdsnapBryan  I wear a 7.5 in Blundstones (US 8 wide since half sizes only change width) and took a size 8 in the side gore boots and they fit well. As for the 161 and 147, my 147 are W30 and I have a pair of 161 in the same size on the way. I will put some measurements up comparing the two once received.

@Alec Leamas any comments on the boot sizing?

@ColdsnapBryan I think you have all the info you need now - but for what it's worth, I went true to my usual UK8 / US9 and have been very satisfied with the fit. I believe all Timeworn footwear is on the narrow side, and these are no exception, so while I could have gone down 0.5, the width would have not been enough for me.

In terms of jeans - I believe that on every cut the waist will be true to the tagged size, though the cuts vary elsewhere. I'm a 32 in every At Last / Butcher Products pair of jeans or trousers though the cuts vary and some just do not work for me (e.g. Lot 126), but I wouldn't stray from your known waist tag size in any of their jeans / trousers if I were you.

I recently experimented with a 34 in the lot 162 and I am going to be selling them one-washed unhemmed and unworn soon because I just won't be able to make the waist work. I will be picking up the lot 306 in indigo instead when they release in January.

[Loomandstitch]

Hey guys!

There are a few brands out there that are pretty similar to TWC, or even straight copies (like Militora). Just wondering if anyone’s checked out G&F Co since they look really similar too, and if anyone has any direct comparisons from owning or seeing both.

 

[Alec Leamas]

21 hours ago, Loomandstitch said:

Hey guys!

There are a few brands out there that are pretty similar to TWC, or even straight copies (like Militora). Just wondering if anyone’s checked out G&F Co since they look really similar too, and if anyone has any direct comparisons from owning or seeing both.

 

Hi mate - not personally checked out G&F co but have seen and heard good things! They've clearly heavily taken inspiration from Timeworn, allllllmost to a copying level, but they look good all the same!

Particularly like the look of some of their knits and shirts: https://store.bitters.tokyo/products/g-f-co-corduroy-shirt-_-black

[southofnonorth]

G&F Co and Blurred directly copied At Last & Co, including their brand identity…  probably more of a copy than Militora. Maybe they’ve also developed some of their own styles based on similar vintage items in recent seasons?

The quality seems okay for the price point, but I wasn’t tempted to try anything on when I had a look at the G&F Co and Blurred stores in Japan

Edited December 29, 2025 by southofnonorth

[Alec Leamas]

1 hour ago, southofnonorth said:

The quality seems okay for the price point, but I wasn’t tempted to try anything on when I had a look at the G&F Co and Blurred stores in Japan

This is interesting to know.

I felt like they had 100% copied Timeworn, and maybe I was being a bit polite in my last post.

It's interesting to see on IG some of the people who buy, wear and share fits of Timeworn stuff also buy into G&F Co, I wonder if there is any disdain there between the brands.

[ATWM]

^ See, to me, that would be sort of funny, given that all of these brands are essentially copying old things and then essentially making a little twist here or there (in the good cases) to avoid any trademark issues, or, depending on the brand, not even a twist, just an anomaly, mistake, or focusing on some details as opposed to others. I’m not saying they all don’t end up a little bit unique in their own way, but copying largely is the name of the game. 

[Alec Leamas]

3 hours ago, ATWM said:

^ See, to me, that would be sort of funny, given that all of these brands are essentially copying old things and then essentially making a little twist here or there (in the good cases) to avoid any trademark issues, or, depending on the brand, not even a twist, just an anomaly, mistake, or focusing on some details as opposed to others. I’m not saying they all don’t end up a little bit unique in their own way, but copying largely is the name of the game. 

You're not wrong, and I know this has come up time and time again. It's inevitable that as the brand had been around for 15 years that enough of a following has been built around it, that then someone would want to develop their own brand in the same style.

 

[Hopethisoneisnttaken]

8 hours ago, ATWM said:

^ See, to me, that would be sort of funny, given that all of these brands are essentially copying old things and then essentially making a little twist here or there (in the good cases) to avoid any trademark issues, or, depending on the brand, not even a twist, just an anomaly, mistake, or focusing on some details as opposed to others. I’m not saying they all don’t end up a little bit unique in their own way, but copying largely is the name of the game. 

I think generally people enjoy timeworn as a complete aesthetic rather than the singular item of clothing here and there. This is probably why every now and again folks switch up their entire wardrobe to timeworn clothing. This is probably because timeworn create a full look (which is harder to achieve without buying all timeworn). Most other brands don’t do it so well ( creating the “must-have-to-achieve-the-look” feeling, I mean). If I can pinpoint anything in which G&F are coping timeworn it would be that thing. Accusing brands of coping other brands in the actual articles of clothing in this particular niche is of course, as you imply, ridiculous (in my opinion). 

[southofnonorth]

I’m not sure why @Hopethisoneisnttaken is so sure G&F didn’t copy actual articles… but as it has been implied that copying is not at issue than that should be kinda irrelevant. 
 

 

 

Edited December 30, 2025 by southofnonorth

[Hopethisoneisnttaken]

1 hour ago, southofnonorth said:

I’m not sure why @Hopethisoneisnttaken is so sure G&F didn’t copy actual articles… but as it has been implied that copying is not at issue than that should be kinda irrelevant. 
 

 

 

I may have been unclear - they probably did. What I tried to say is - since this whole niche is built on copying older garments, there really no point in accusing a brand of copying another one’s garments. Much like how every now and than a brand accuses another brands of copying their copied Levi’s arcs in the same way…

 

However, I do think G&F are trying to create a very similar brand concept to timeworn. This is something I personally find more “morally” wrong in the context of copying within this clothing niche. 

[Alec Leamas]

On 12/29/2025 at 8:38 PM, Hopethisoneisnttaken said:

This is probably because timeworn create a full look (which is harder to achieve without buying all timeworn). Most other brands don’t do it so well ( creating the “must-have-to-achieve-the-look” feeling, I mean).

This is why it feels a little bit different I think - G&F appear to be attempting to create the full look.

[Hopethisoneisnttaken]

3 hours ago, Alec Leamas said:

This is why it feels a little bit different I think - G&F appear to be attempting to create the full look.

I agree, but between you and I (and everybody else on the internet 😏) G&F are about a million miles behind TMC on that matter. 

[Loomandstitch]

I agree to a certain extent that many brands are referencing older garments, especially when it comes to denim. However, with some pieces, certain brands have gone beyond inspiration and have directly copied TWC’s work and identity. Militora, in my view, is the biggest offender. They’ve replicated tags, labels, and even fonts.

 

I actually discovered G&F Co by accident while looking for an alternative to the herringbone military trousers, since the TWC ones are always sold out. G&F Co make a version that’s similar enough, though not as nice, but those are sold out as well. Because I have long legs, TWC is one of the very few brands that produces wide, higher waisted trousers in lengths that actually work for everyone.

[l13902733261]

The quality of G&F Co were quite shite.

And tbh TWC wasn't any better. both of my leather jacket has undergo repair, and not to mention the countless time of button falling off on my trousers.

[Alec Leamas]

Update on the 118J - I only snapped chest, length and sleeve post-wash but the shrinkage came up lovely.

Prior to washing I was a little concerned the length would just remain too long - happily I was wrong.

Raw -> Washed (at 60, no/low spin)

Chest = 56cm -> 51cm
Length = 63cm -> 57cm
Sleeve = 62cm -> 55cm

Scale of the shrinkage very evident in the patch.

Will look to start wearing this once things warm up a couple degrees here!