Freewheelers, Bootleggers Reunion, Bubo, etc.

[Broark]

38 minutes ago, okimoto said:

how many Power Wear items do you have now?

Between (graphic and blank) tees, thermals and sweats it's hard to put a number on it...I'll try to get a count for you though.

[okimoto]

Experiencing an unexpected lull during a product launch, here is an office mugshot. S506XX 44-45 and a new pair of 601RB. The hip flare is a bit much but I’m sure will settle down

[Broark]

On 3/6/2025 at 2:02 PM, Broark said:

Between (graphic and blank) tees, thermals and sweats it's hard to put a number on it...I'll try to get a count for you though.

Did a rough count and we're up to 40 Power Wear items. No, I don't have a problem.

[Maynard Friedman]

^ That’s completely justified when you live somewhere as cold as Texas 😆

[Broark]

33 minutes ago, Maynard Friedman said:

^ That’s completely justified when you live somewhere as cold as Texas 😆

I’d say 30 of those are t-shirts. 

[shredwin_206]

[MJF9]

So I was to'ing and fro'ing on whether to get a size 42 or a 44 in the Powerwear heavyweight sweatshirt (#2434007)

I have FW jackets in size 44 and size 46, so logic says a size 44 in sweatshirts should be good
However, for me, the sweatshirt measurements tend to look, or be, generous... though it depends how you want them to fit

Also, I'd previously got the Lot #2334011 sweatshirt in size 44 without consulting anyone and it's anomalously massive, even after washing it at 90C and sing the dryer (yes, that's another story)

Seiichiro had the idea of sending me both 42 and 44 to help me choose; and asked me to post the comparison (top service from Seiichiro, as always btw).  I've never posted on IG so here we go on Sufu

I know other Sufu'ers get more shrink from their wash/dry methods, so my measurements are a guide to be used with caution 

The pictures are pre-wash 42, pre-wash 44 and then washed 42

Anyhow, happy with the size 42 and it seems the right one for me in Freewheelers sweatshirts 

Size 42 pre-wash / raw

Size 44 pre-wash / raw

 

Measurements chart - measurements can vary depending who is taking them - main take-away here is the relative change

Ta-da... settled on size 42

And then the bad prince got locked up in the dungeon... and they all lived happily ever after.  The end 

Edited March 9 by MJF9

[shredwin_206]

1927 type 1
1900 pullover
1947 jeans 

[shredwin_206]

Hey @AnOldFolkSong need an update on your Freewheelers stuff. Any paint left on the jeans at all? 

[UkeNo]

Does anyone know if the 506xx 1942 Jacket Lot.2421006 (wash)/ 2421005 (Non-wash) Jacket is an annual release? 

I've been looking at the S506xx 1944-45 jacket Lot.2511004 (washed), and have seen the Hooper review of the 42 too,  realizing (as always it seems) that i'd missed it a few months back. Thanks

[ATWM]

1 hour ago, UkeNo said:

Does anyone know if the 506xx 1942 Jacket Lot.2421006 (wash)/ 2421005 (Non-wash) Jacket is an annual release? 

I've been looking at the S506xx 1944-45 jacket Lot.2511004 (washed), and have seen the Hooper review of the 42 too,  realizing (as always it seems) that i'd missed it a few months back. Thanks

Don’t think so. I think the 507xx ‘51 is the only one really, though others who know better I’m sure will say. 

[indigoeagle]

Yes, the 1951 507 and also the 46/47 506 are annual products, I think.
But with the popularity of the other versions I wouldn't be surprised, if they get released again. But who knows. What size are you looking for?

[UkeNo]

35 minutes ago, ATWM said:

Don’t think so. I think the 507xx ‘51 is the only one really, though others who know better I’m sure will say. 

 

26 minutes ago, indigoeagle said:

Yes, the 1951 507 and also the 46/47 506 are annual products, I think.
But with the popularity of the other versions I wouldn't be surprised, if they get released again. But who knows. What size are you looking for?

I'm looking for a raw Size 42, in the 1942.

The reason for asking about the re-releasing is that iv'e seen the current release of the s506xx 44-45 again. Which made me think perhaps the 42 might come back? Thanks for the replies. 

Edited March 12 by UkeNo

[indigoeagle]

I think, currently besides the 46/47 you can mostly find the S506XX 1944/45.

[indigoeagle]

Regarding the 1942- there had been some post saying that the denim is different from the other WWII jackets, but also from the 46/47 and from the 1922/1933.
Any more info/insight on that?

Also the 1946 ones from 2020 with the flannel pocket were the same denim as the 601XX 1947.
Perhaps the WWII denim was created after that.

[UkeNo]

I honestly don’t know. 
from watching the Hooper reviews of both the 44-45 & 42 models, I’m think I’m right in saying that the 44-45 S model has a rougher darker denim, compared to the non-s 506 models. 

I’ll rewatch the 42 video and see if I can pick out more details now I’m a bit more informed on the models. They did make a point of how special the denim was. 

That video was posted earlier in the thread.

Here’s the review of the s506xx 44-45 review from  previous run about a year ago. From what I understand the recent edition of this jacket is the same as the previous one.

 
I’m happy to be corrected on anything I’ve missed or misunderstood here though. 
 

 

 

Edited March 12 by UkeNo

[indigoeagle]

The prominent vertical fading seems to be characteristic for vintage WWII denim. Both FWs and WH have that in their WWII denim.
When you look at the 1942 denim it also has the some thicker warp yarns.
So, even if it is different from the 1943, 44, 45 denim, it's probably still closer to that than to the original denim or the red cast 20s/30s denim.

[MJF9]

@Broark has the '42s and the WW2 so will be able to comment on the denim used (I thought it was the same denim but let's see)

[Broark]

2 hours ago, MJF9 said:

@Broark has the '42s and the WW2 so will be able to comment on the denim used (I thought it was the same denim but let's see)

Yup that's correct, same denim. I think the new 42s seem a bit more blue though. I haven't worn the new tux much (been wearing the WoM  jeans), but I'll try to get some photos soon.
I did some comparison shots last year of the 37, 42 and 45 variants: 

 

[shredwin_206]

my heavily abuse 1937 jeans

Edited March 13 by shredwin_206

[indigoeagle]

On 4/25/2024 at 7:04 PM, shredwin_206 said:

@Broark yea when I asked Hoosier he told me the denim is different. 
I also assumed it was the same denim so was going to pass on the 42 jeans but now I might grab them……

I was refering to this post.

@shredwin_206did you eventually get the 42s? Any more info on what is different about the denim from the other WWII ones?

Edited March 13 by indigoeagle

[yochrisahn]

Would be very interested in a restock of the '42 denim, especially the jacket. If anyone has the jacket, new or used, in a 46 I would be very interested in buying!

[indigoeagle]

In this one they're talking about the 42 jacket.
They're saying, that the fabric is WWII denim, darker, coarser compared to the more blue 47 one.

 

 

Edited March 13 by indigoeagle

[UkeNo]

I was talking to Seiichiro about the 42 jacket and upcoming transition model jeans and he did mention the Popularity of Freewheelers nowadays…

’S601XX(denim pocket bag version). It's possible to change shape and nobody knows the details yet. After arrival, we'll know about it.
I'll stock nonwash w32 and w33. If you want it, preorders will be better. FW's denim products are getting so popular and sold out is so quickly in these days.’

And about the possibility of a re-run of 42 Jackets…

‘It's possible but it's not sure when FW produce again’

[UkeNo]

12 hours ago, indigoeagle said:

In this one they're talking about the 42 jacket.
They're saying, that the fabric is WWII denim, darker, coarser compared to the more blue 47 one.

This was my takeaway from the video too.
the 42 and 47 are different blues but the 44/45 & 42 are close but possibly different. 

I have re-watched the 44-45 review again, and I think the fabric on the 42 is similar - dark blue black and rough textured, but different between the two. 

I have asked Seiichiro if he knows

[indigoeagle]

That would be cool, if the 42 jacket becomes available again.

Isn't it funny, how one becomes very interested in items such as this much much later. I've had that many times

[MJF9]

This... from the man who has both 42 and WW2 models

[MJF9]

Also this... I remembered we discussed it a year ago...

Edited March 14 by MJF9

[okimoto]

1 minute ago, MJF9 said:

Also this... I remembered we discussed it a year ago...

The background on your chat is fitting for talking with Seiichiro!

[indigoeagle]

Good to know.

So same WWII denim fabric, but the 42 is not as dark (but still not blue like the original denim).
Kind of like the 47 and 51 are the same fabric, but different dyes.