The Evolution of Jeans: Pictures, Scones and Tea

[beatle]

ocean watches dont do anything for your jeans

so true...

[rockon99]

My apc rescue jortz

i couldnt stand the stanky anymore so i washed them.

pre:

post - not a whole lot different with the flash on..

i'll take natural light pictures sometime soon..

[soonami]

Blue indigo is the already oxidised dimer. The yellow/green colour you mention is the reduced form (indoxyl) that is used for enhancing solubility of the dye in solution. As soon as it is exposed to air (oxygen), the dye turns blue.

Neither sodium, nor chloride, are oxidising agents. And in fact, what you describe would require a reducing reagent (again, not sodium ion or chloride).

^^I know that only reduced Indigo precursors are soluble in water and must be oxidized in order to dimerize and thus make the highly conjugated indigo dye.

And although neither sodium or chloride ion are oxidizing agents, they can help facilitate the transfer of elections in a redox rxn by the ultimate redox agent: water.

Furthermore, you don't know what other compounds are in the jeans. Some people will wear jeans for months without washing which leads to an accumulation of chemicals from perspiration, pollution, w/e. Any of these compounds can cause a non-canonical chemical rxn with indigo other than the simple redox reaction that you suggested.

I do not pretend to know everything or that the oxidation or reduction could be caused by a seawater wash, more likely yellowing is cause by staining from the insufficient washing of oils and other junk from your shedding skin and sweat. What I said was that if something were to happen in a warm, oxygenated, high salt, aqueous environment, and perhaps even with a dry in sun, might be oxidation.

My guess would be that if anything were to happen, the salt would facilitate the oxidation of the indigo dye causing it to take on a yellow/green tint.

[the Repeater]

The romance is killing me.

[salaami]

give rep to angela, not too many shorties go anywhere near hard on denim( no pun). an ocean wash sounds novel @first, but in the end, its just nasty...

[mr genki]

Pretty much the only reason i did an ocean wash was a) drunkeness and trying to re-create swimming in clothes from primary school swimming lessons.

That said, the salt really did stiffen up the denim a fair amount. I'm not sure whether having that much salt content next to your skin is to good though?

[hype_killz]

your def supposed to rinse them with reg water after the ocean.

[freecat]

took pics of my apc cure...

worn approx 7-8 months, 4 washes, bought nearly 2 years ago. loads of shit happened to me while wearing those.

[map111158]

Like getting run over by the machine that paints lines on the road.

[to><ikon]

Like getting run over by the machine that paints lines on the road.

I was actually going to say that exact same thing

Anyways, here's a quick shot of my N&F Weird Guys Vintage Blue Selvage in a 28. Excuse the creepy basement pic!

These have been my work jeans for about 3 months, washed twice, in need of another wash pronto

[Planet Mental]

whoa those N&F are great, such a classic blue. Anymore shots of them?

those APCs are crazy too

[soonami]

My SUFU660, x-post from the Warehouse thread:

Funny how the 660's have almost the same fading pattern as my RRL's:

A pair of vintage LEE's I thrifted. Not much information about these, but thought they looked really cool for $3.50:

[bunga]

great jeans soonami, can see you really put a lot of wear into them, even the repairs is full of character. and the combs on the back....man

[.jacob]

Killer jawns. Well done.

[lilldavid]

My SUFU660, x-post from the Warehouse thread:

beautiful man

[opethrapture]

Nice Soonami, those 660 are killing it!!

[beatle]

soonami* true piece of history

[dralfonzo]

yah those are grail material. Posts like that make me realise how much the xxx gallery needs updating.

[mr genki]

holly molly, those are something special...

good technique on the repair as well. If only my sewing skills were that good! I take it they were repaired by hand?

[soonami]

yeah, all by hand. I watch a lot of baseball on TV, so repairing my jeans help pass the time during commerical breaks, pitching changes, and any Jamie Moyer game

[I.T.]

LVC47 501. Bit over a year. 3 washes if I remember right.

[sm2s]

SexFH05 about 9-10months of wear.

2 soaks 2 washes.

[freecat]

while i'm at it... dh 19cm mij

owned for 2 years, worn approx 1 year, 1 soak 3 or 4 washes

[freecat]

sorry for double posting, but i was ironing stuff and saw my little sis' h&m sqin raw denim. it's not like she cared about denim nor knew it would give this results, but i find it cool. she seems to have retired them now because she has a pair of acne raw that looks quite new.

coutless amount of washes, owned for more than 2 years, worn a lot.

[AtticBoy]

Edwin ED-55 Granite Denim

18 months old, washed @ 9 months, 13 months, 16 months

Before

After

[jstavrin]

Those Edwins look insane. Makes me want to get a pair. +rep

[rungo]

Those H&Ms are quite interesting. Those really must hold their color, although I'm guessing that that has something to do with pure indigo vs mix with other synthetic dyes.

[chambo2008]

edwins are sick!!! +rep

[beatle]

sm2s - it's about time we saw them again...

[duck sauce]

Those H&Ms are quite interesting. Those really must hold their color, although I'm guessing that that has something to do with pure indigo vs mix with other synthetic dyes.

orr maybe

they weren't worn

hard