Pride FC and MMA

[NatseOklim]

No problem, I disagree with you though. MMA striking is hugely different than in any other sport and Randy uses his striking to dismantle opponents whilst not getting hit much. Minotauro is another person who I feel has techincal striking but that I expect you feel doesn't.

[Lozinski]

Am I the only one that thinks Carwin did an incredible mistake on the ground?

He let Brock go in full mount and somehow arm triangle him?

CAMMMMMMMMAAAAAAAAAAAAN

[inakorechard]

danm kawajiri!!!!

[ktothe]

I went to bed at like 6 to wake up for Dream. I made it most of the way through too. I even got to see the guy bleeding to death when he got rolled over and came back to consciousness But I fell asleep just when Aoki was coming out. I woke up just briefly to see him go for the sub, whispered in the stoniest drawl possible, "fuuuuuuuuuck" then passed back out.

Other intersting things: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez. Guess where it is? Anaheim. They might as well have had in Mexico. I'll be there too see the Brown Pride era begin.

[surri]

I'm just waiting for them to come to Hong Kong. I'm gonna take the first trip down there.

[inakorechard]

i wonder if the ufc will ever venture into the asia... i know a lot peoples still mad at the death of pride and stuff but im excited for sonnen vs silva cause im visiting family in the bay area and cousin got tickets

[surri]

The only UFC I been to was UFC 56 in AC in New Jersey. Arlovski vs Eilers. That was fun, but shitty fights.

No worries at Pride. Dream just got new investors and the "War on the UFC" is now officially underway!

[ktothe]

The only UFC I been to was UFC 56 in AC in New Jersey. Arlovski vs Eilers. That was fun, but shitty fights.

No worries at Pride. Dream just got new investors and the "War on the UFC" is now officially underway!

Yeah the whole thing is a joke. 200 million dollars? Please...

Anyway, yes of course the UFC will come to Asia. They just opened up a corporate office in China and sent over a few execs. The only reason they signed Akiyama and Dennis The Failure Kang was to get into Korea. Half of Korean Top Team is already on UFC contract by way of WEC. Basically what they are doing right now is buying their time and sniffing out the market for the next hope from either of those two countries.

I have no doubt that if they can stay as productive as they are now they will return to Japan one day. But as it stands, it wont be for a while. Everyone that would be responsible for putting on a show on the Japanese side will never work wit Dana White or his team.

[16steps]

the carwin v. lesnar fight was one of the most entertaining of the year. Excellently played by the ref by not stopping it in the first round.

Lesnar is a beast

[alex-san]

ufc 121 lesnar v. velasquez in my own backyard. see you kids there

[po_boy_fuuma_hatesbargerz]

I have no doubt that if they can stay as productive as they are now they will return to Japan one day. But as it stands, it wont be for a while. Everyone that would be responsible for putting on a show on the Japanese side will never work wit Dana White or his team.

Yo, can you elaborate? I'm just curious, thanks.

[ktothe]

Yo, can you elaborate? I'm just curious, thanks.

Sure, the problem is two fold:

1) there is a general malaise towards MMA in Japan.

2) Dana White - His business style is seen as insulting to the Japanese political structure and if you mix that with the fact that they are foreign company its the final nail i the coffin. He's already thrown everyone he's spoken to in Japan under the bus, calling them corrupt Yakuza and generally disrespecting them as people.

Look at the WWE. Vince McMahon couldn't break open the Pro Wrestling market during the wrestling boom a few years back doing everything right to appease the Japanese.

It's just a tough market because of the business culture and the way Americans tend do business in regards to combat sports.

[inakorechard]

last night card was good..

FIREBALL KID!!

[conqueror]

if chael somehow magically wins this by anything other than decision it will be the biggest upset in the UFC for a loooooong time.

[alex-san]

lets be real we all want to see chael win

[conqueror]

most people don't just because of him talking constant shit for the last three months. i don't really care who wins as i don't like either of them, but it would be amazing to see chael somehow pull off a KO/TKO/submission. will be a great fight either way.

[ktothe]

if chael somehow magically wins this by anything other than decision it will be the biggest upset in the UFC for a loooooong time.

How exactly would it be an upset? Chael is literally built to beat Anderson Silva. Andy cant work off his back and will probably be put there a lot. Look at what he did to Marquardt.

I dont think Chael is going to win but if he does it's going to be extremely fucking elementary.

EDIT: Other matches that are similar: Henderson Silva, Lutter Silva. If Lutter wasnt such a sad depressing human being he might have come in on weight and won.

[ktothe]

AND STILL THE MIDDLE WEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD...

[jim_n]

did that really just happen?

[Lozinski]

like srsly?

[rxtim]

guess next fight if you don't want it to be so close you should keep your hands up spiderman

[inakorechard]

thats what happens when you believe bjj is gay you get stuck in a triangle

[ktothe]

Tell that to Matt Hughes.

[Lozinski]

I was pretty much screaming at Silva for 5 rounds telling him to PUT ON THE FUCKING TRIANGLE CHOKE!!! HIS ARM IS FUCKING IN BETWEEN YOUR LEGZZZ!!!!

[inakorechard]

Tell that to Matt Hughes.

i forgot about him lol

favorite part of silva and sonnen

[suremanok]

^chael pulling some walker texas ranger shit right there.

[Lendo]

That was a great fight, i'd like to see them go at it again sometime in the near future.

[NatseOklim]

I was getting really excited at the end there that Silva was finally going to lose, haven't liked him since his days in Pride! Lost a bit of respect there for Sonnen though for denying the tap...

[NatseOklim]

Oh and I'd really like to see Hughes enter ADCC or something, his submission skills (combined with great wrestling and strength) are really underrated!

[ktothe]

Oh and I'd really like to see Hughes enter ADCC or something, his submission skills (combined with great wrestling and strength) are really underrated!

You mean like he did in 98/99 where he stomped Ricardo Almeida for the first time and Horn?

Hughes has black belt level grappling.