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@MJF9 Thanks for the suggestion! DEFINITELY wide enough - I think I could take the size 28 even. No experience with Big John as of yet so could be fun to dabble. Still waiting to see the measurements of the new Sugarcane's first. 

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On 10/21/2025 at 1:14 AM, Thicolas Rage said:

@MJF9 @ATWM @beautiful_FrEaK Thanks for the suggestions! Some I've considered (I've seen the samurai s3100 in person and it is lovely, especially with the 17oz) but others I've certainly not taken a closer look at -- especially Black Sign and Belafonte. 

Re: @ATWM I do agree that there will never be a 'perfect fit', but it would certainly be nice to put on a pair of jeans that aren't too big in the waist but fit everywhere else ;). I don't necessarily even prefer a 'wide' silhouette, just that what ends up looking promising for my smaller proportions ends up being wider jeans. 

I am curious about the new Sugarcane 2025 set to be released (soon?) that @beautiful_FrEaK has been posting about, those could be promising!

Fullcount 1121 duke denim is super wide. Im on my third pair

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Damn. Just saw this thread. 

Just want to say Ben Davis Gorilla Cuts are a perfect high rise wide cut chino with frog mouth pockets. 

Come in twill but also a few in denim. Here are my indigo pair. 

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Anyone tried these Sugarcane? 

Seems like a similar approach as the TCB 50s but with a wider hem (resulting in a more wide vs baggy fit). 

I find that the TCB 50 worn upsized is actually closer to a wide fit than the 50s baggy due to the taper. 

A 35 waist in the TCB 50s baggy has a 9.5 inch hem. 

A 35 waist in the TCB 50s has a 10 inch hem. 

The 50s baggy is looser but has the same or smaller leg opening implies more taper than I prefer in a wide leg. 

Sizing up in the 50s would give you a looser but more proportioned leg, no?

Sugarcane 2025 model below with 10 inch opening. 

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56 minutes ago, cultpop 0217 said:

Anyone tried these Sugarcane? 

Seems like a similar approach as the TCB 50s but with a wider hem (resulting in a more wide vs baggy fit). 

I find that the TCB 50 worn upsized is actually closer to a wide fit than the 50s baggy due to the taper. 

A 35 waist in the TCB 50s baggy has a 9.5 inch hem. 

A 35 waist in the TCB 50s has a 10 inch hem. 

The 50s baggy is looser but has the same or smaller leg opening implies more taper than I prefer in a wide leg. 

Sizing up in the 50s would give you a looser but more proportioned leg, no?

Sugarcane 2025 model below with 10 inch opening. 

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There's some chat about SCs new wide fit in the SC thread. Seems like a decent fit.

I really like @Hopethisoneisnttaken 's 50 baggies fit though. His still looks wide rather than baggy that you see on TCBs site and Bears where the model is very slim.

I'm pretty happy with my standard TCB 50s though. I went with a 36 rather than 34. They have a 9 inch hem. The fit kinda flares out or at least it does in photos. They are actually a tad wider from the knee down than my FC 0105 but with a more fitted seat that FC.

 

On 2/21/2026 at 6:11 PM, Hopethisoneisnttaken said:

Punctuation/ Vermont flannel/ Vortex diamondback/ tcb baggy 50s/ Jim Green

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@cultpop 0217 @PrettyBoyTony thanks guys!

going by the size chart of the 50s - my waist fits a size 33 (and that’s my usual tcb size also), but to achieve the thigh width of the baggies I would have to go up to size 38. The amount of extra fabric in the top part will look awful (in my opinion). 
 

although I understand what you mean about the taper, the measure noted in the size chart only refers to un hemmed jeans, and when you cut up towards the knee the taper is much less noticeable. One example of a very tapered jean is the Moto baggies. That’s part of the balloon fit it’s trying to achieve. 
 

you’re right that the regular 50s are more straight fit than the baggys, but the baggys have a very very generous top block, and the very slight taper they have on a 76 cm inseam makes them look more balanced in my opinion, avoiding the bell bottomed look that is sometimes achieved when the hem is exactly is wide as the knee. The 50s fabric is also very soft and supple, so it wouldn’t drape so nice if it had be so straight. Again - this is just my opinion. 
 

 

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15 hours ago, cultpop 0217 said:

Anyone tried these Sugarcane? 

Seems like a similar approach as the TCB 50s but with a wider hem (resulting in a more wide vs baggy fit). 

I find that the TCB 50 worn upsized is actually closer to a wide fit than the 50s baggy due to the taper. 

A 35 waist in the TCB 50s baggy has a 9.5 inch hem. 

A 35 waist in the TCB 50s has a 10 inch hem. 

The 50s baggy is looser but has the same or smaller leg opening implies more taper than I prefer in a wide leg. 

Sizing up in the 50s would give you a looser but more proportioned leg, no?

Sugarcane 2025 model below with 10 inch opening. 

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I recently got a pair of the SC 42025 1936 wide ones in 36. My "normal" size is 34. In 36 these are still a bit trim in the waist. But they will sure stretch out.
So I would definitely size up.
38 would have been possible, too, I think, for an even wider fit.

I put up some pics in the Sugar Cane thread.

I'm quite happy with this fit. It's very comfortable. 
And interestingly the perception of what is a good looking cut changes over time. Three years ago or so I would have found these too wide for me. But now they don't really feel that wide. A bit more than say the Freewheelers XXC 1937, which are on of their widest fits, but not by much.

The denim is very interesting. As I had written quite a bit neppy (but not excessive; still quite balanced and aesthetic) and more substantial than I had expected at the 13oz (in raw, I think).
While FW or TCB in O/W feel quite soft, this denim in O/W is still quite a bit rough.

The crotch rivet is a nice little detail (abolished in 1942), without the cinch similar to Evisu or the FW S601 1945 2nd Half or the WH S1003XX 1942 (both with the denim pocket bags). 

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On 3/6/2026 at 12:39 AM, Hopethisoneisnttaken said:

@cultpop 0217 @PrettyBoyTony thanks guys!

going by the size chart of the 50s - my waist fits a size 33 (and that’s my usual tcb size also), but to achieve the thigh width of the baggies I would have to go up to size 38. The amount of extra fabric in the top part will look awful (in my opinion). 
 

although I understand what you mean about the taper, the measure noted in the size chart only refers to un hemmed jeans, and when you cut up towards the knee the taper is much less noticeable. One example of a very tapered jean is the Moto baggies. That’s part of the balloon fit it’s trying to achieve. 
 

you’re right that the regular 50s are more straight fit than the baggys, but the baggys have a very very generous top block, and the very slight taper they have on a 76 cm inseam makes them look more balanced in my opinion, avoiding the bell bottomed look that is sometimes achieved when the hem is exactly is wide as the knee. The 50s fabric is also very soft and supple, so it wouldn’t drape so nice if it had be so straight. Again - this is just my opinion. 
 

 

Good point about the losing some of the taper when hemming. 

I guess it just comes to down what you are looking for. 

I basically want a high rise regular fit up top with a straight leg down to a ten inch hem. I might just have to find a brick and mortar shop. 

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Tried on the new Levis 501 Loose. 

Dug the fit ok but not the denim (too thin, too washed) or the price. 

The rise could be a little higher. 

If they make these in a heavier darker blue denim I might reconsider. 

Slightly cuffed under on one leg and full break on the other. 

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1 hour ago, cultpop 0217 said:

Yeah those are basically perfect @Hopethisoneisnttaken

Really dig these as well. About 10.5 inch hems. 

https://store.belafonte.jp/?pid=189521420

 

Yes both are very good, and the fabrics are both interesting. 
 

the one issue I have with jeans (since I only have the denim pair haha) is that the rise it too high to be comfortable for most of day to day activities, especially in summer. 

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3 hours ago, Ciabatta said:

They cost a pretty penny but I have been eying the Evan Kinori x Orslow jeans for a minute. 

Nice. I hadn't heard of these. Very interesting.

From Fall '24:
"Around five years ago I started to ask Ichiro if he would ever make a larger silhouette, something with a wide leg and high rise - but it didn't seem like that was his thing. I would tease him every so often, asking if he had changed his mind. He never strayed from his point of view and eventually he just told me to develop the pattern for it.
So that's how this project came about; we built on the orSlow base pattern and established the fit of our own version of their classic five pocket jean.
Cut from their custom developed ''one wash'' denim that orSlow has been using for years, which possesses a beautiful shade of indigo and a great texture that's brought out in the rinse process."

https://evankinori.com/blogs/notes/making-jeans-with-orslow

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These Ben Davis Gorillas are starting to mold to my body a little bit, developing creases and hanging a little more naturally after a few wears. 

I wanted a very full trouser look but they are very full, very wide. Lots of volume. Hems are nearly 11.5 inches! 

Loving how high they hit on the waist... giving me a much longer leg. 

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After looking at the buckle back, arcuates, and slightly tapered yet loose legs on the Belefonte 1936 and comparing  measurements I decided to go with a new pair of upsized Bronson Mfg's 1936 Lee 101b Cowboy repro. I was already familar with the fit but my old pair was always a bit snug and ive gained weight so I went up a size for a looser leg. 

Belefonte

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And Bronson below

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Not quite a "baggy" wide fit but I have the Gorilla Cuts for that.  These have a 9.5 inch hem, roomy top block, and a very high rise that fit the bill for a full wider straight mid century shape that's still versatile. 

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https://blackhorselane.com/collections/se6-classic-wide/products/se6-wide-indigo-15oz-italian-rinse-selvedge-unisex-jeans

I really like the look of these and the measurements seem ideal for me at least. I like how they are made in the UK too which is a bonus being UK based

12 inch front rise but 15.5 for the back. 14 inch thighs and a 10 inch hem.

I quite like their washed version though would likely go for the 'raw' version. Maybe when my fullcounts get more faded I'll pull the trigger.

 

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1 hour ago, Hopethisoneisnttaken said:

Looks good! Only down side for me is the lining stitch on the back pocket, but I think it’s just my pet peeve. 

Yeah I also don't love that

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