Denime

[PrettyBoyTony]

I just ordered the 220a xx offset in 33x30 from Bears.

Never tried STF before so excited and nervous in equal measures. I hope they don't shrink beyond 30inches...

Maybe I should have played it safe and got 32 lenght but hemming is a real pain (no chain stitching near me so need to post them out) and I really prefer a no cuff or very thin cuff.

I've asked Bears to confirm measurements so hopefully that should help. They're always super helpful 

[reallypeacedoff]

I think you'll be happy with the 33, mate! 

[beautiful_FrEaK]

@JohnnyD great pair as well, just like in the other threads 😉

[Alec Leamas]

@PrettyBoyTony you'll be sound I'm sure! Exciting, such a great pair for your first raw jeans!

[Newman]

Just joined the Denime thanks to @beautiful_FrEaK who happen to sell exact my size! Been eyeing Denime for years and happy to finally have a pair. 

Haven't decided yet if I should do a hot soak or just go for a 30degree wash low cycle. The denim is really nice and looking forward to see how they develop over time. 

It's Denime 221 with denim from Kurabo Mill 

[beautiful_FrEaK]

I'm happy they arrived at a good home!

[NilsLW]

Now we need fit pics!

[Newman]

@NilsLW fit pics will come both pre and post wash

[PrettyBoyTony]

220AXX have just arrived from Bears. The preshrink photos are looking promising. Currently in the wash so will post an update once dry which at this current temperature will be in a couple of weeks 🙃

[aho]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DClqERRzceZ/?igsh=MTR1eDE1YnRuOXB4Mg==
 

lot 221 three washes one year

[reallypeacedoff]

Is Denime denim susceptible to the "veiny" fades, or is that just the washing technique? 

[Maynard Friedman]

You can see it across a fair smattering of pairs so I think it’s safe to assume it’s the denim rather than a washing technique.

[Alec Leamas]

15 hours ago, reallypeacedoff said:

Is Denime denim susceptible to the "veiny" fades, or is that just the washing technique? 

I would say that the fabric Warehouse produce now is V V susceptible to the veiny fades (I can't comment on historic fabric), but I have also noticed it promimently in my Buzz Rickson chambray shirt, I guess it's the diagonal pull you get from washing and the warp x weft working against each other (or some such scientific thing).

[Alec Leamas]

One for my hem roping nerds out there! Hems on the 220XX-47.

Edited November 21, 2024 by Alec Leamas

[PrettyBoyTony]

Happy with the shrinkage. They are very stiff at the moment so look a bit weird but I believe they soften up quickly from what I've read here.

I washed at 40 low spin but think I should get some more shrinkage in leg next wash. Waist is perfect.

These feel like cardboard right now compared to my fullcounts

[reallypeacedoff]

Looks ace @PrettyBoyTony! Will soften up quick, easy to stretch out for a 15.7oz denim too.

[Alec Leamas]

Agreed, looks like a good fit, and yes once they soften up they'll feel a lot better I'm sure!

[dennnnnnnnn]

this is a long shot but does anyone have a pair of denime type xx from the shins era? theres a pair for sale that isnt cheap and i cant find a size chart. was wondering if someone has a size chart or if they can expertly tell what size they have in either a washed or stretched state. im looking at a size 31 and they are one wash. 

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Did you contact me on reddit?
You won't find a size chart. Usually the XX pairs start a little bit over tag size and shrink from there. So a tagged W31 will probably measure 29.5-30" in one-wash state and will stretch to 31-31.5" (all measured flat, waistband aligned). If you are lucky, someone might have posted measurements deep down in this thread.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Denime x Evisu anyone?

https://www.fromjapan.co.jp/japan/en/auction/yahoo/input/g1162759054/

 

[japanalogue]

On 10/4/2024 at 6:31 PM, indigoeagle said:

It would be cool, if WH could answer some questions like that. Do they have a kind of spokes person?
Perhaps the Japanalogue guy can set up an interview. Not sure, if there has been one with WH.
 

Hey, cheers, are you meaning a Warehouse interview? ✍️

Kind of a long story, but basically I was at Fullcount one day a few years back talking to Tsujita-san, and we got to talking about interviewing his 'kohai' (juniors), the Shiotani brothers. He called them on my behalf and they oddly said they were way "too shy" to do it. Tsujita-san I think was a bit surprised and apologetic. A year or so later, I contacted their 'spokesperson' (as mentioned above) about a separate TV opportunity that had come up, and did not find him to be responsive or friendly in the least.

But...that was years ago, and this post got me to thinking I should just go down there and talk to them directly. That whole thing (and with so many other great denim choices here) kind of put me off the brand, but I really shouldn't have let it. I know many people connected with Warehouse now, so it's probably just a case of me asking again. I can't say I have a massive urge to do so, truth be told, but I do think they are an important brand and many people would probably love to hear the story. The products are also, obviously, very good.

When the twins were just junior high kids, wild about denim, they would go into the jeans shop where Tsujita-san and Yamane-san were working to hang out and buy stuff...how's THAT for some heavy denim history all in one room?! Future Evisu, Fullcount, and Warehouse...
😅 🤯

Edited December 8, 2024 by japanalogue

[blooming]

15 hours ago, japanalogue said:

When the twins were just junior high kids, wild about denim, they would go into the jeans shop where Tsujita-san and Yamane-san were working to hang out and buy stuff...how's THAT for some heavy denim history all in one room?! Future Evisu, Fullcount, and Warehouse...
😅 🤯

Wonder what Hayashi-san and whomever owned SDA were doing at the time.. 🤣

Edited December 8, 2024 by blooming

[dennnnnnnnn]

On 12/3/2024 at 2:41 AM, beautiful_FrEaK said:

Did you contact me on reddit?
You won't find a size chart. Usually the XX pairs start a little bit over tag size and shrink from there. So a tagged W31 will probably measure 29.5-30" in one-wash state and will stretch to 31-31.5" (all measured flat, waistband aligned). If you are lucky, someone might have posted measurements deep down in this thread.

Yep, that was me. I’ve been looking on Japan auctions through a proxy, communication is impossible. They always list the size but I never know if it’s washed or stretched. Was hoping to find someone on here with exact sizes. I’ve been using the way back machine to find someone archived size charts online with no luck. Those 31’s will probably too tight for me if what you say is true. Now finding someone dead stock will be a challenge. 
 

also wanted to say thanks for the help, your Denime knowledge has been priceless. 

[PrettyBoyTony]

Doh! A bit too careless with my washing and drying this weekend. Wabi - sabi...

[jeash90]

Some more recon on the Denime Lot 224 '66.

Bought size 36/30.

• Pre-wash:
  • Waist - 19" || Thigh - 13" || Front Rise - 12.25" || Hem: 9" || Inseam: 32" 
• Post soak and wash on machine "Warm" (supposedly 80-85 deg. F, machine does not have a more granular temp. setting)
  • Waist - 18" || Thigh - 13" || Front Rise - 11.5" || Hem: 8.5" || Inseam: 31" 
• After full air dry on clothes rack, wash with machine "Hot" (supposedly 101-115 deg. F, machine does not have a more granular temp. setting)
  • Waist - 17.75" || Thigh - 13" || Front Rise - 11.25" || Hem: 8.5" || Inseam: 30.5"

Before soak/wash:

After hot wash:

 

Overall, the shrinkage was a bit less than I would have guessed (maybe should have sized down?, but wanted to be safe). I feel like they fit decent in the butt, but are definitely baggier in the front. I definitely want to get the hemmed and hope that can help the look a bit.

[exaptavist]

Spot on imo mate

i’ve lost interest in Denime since Warehouse took over, but that fit looks just right. 

[Alec Leamas]

Just wanted to drop a note here to say my 220XX-54 finally arrived back, hemmed, on Christmas Eve. What a touching way to end a hilarious saga 😀

Ive learnt my lesson.

I love the jeans though and I’m glad i pushed on stubbornly. I’ll post some pics and details soon. Too full of cake and cheese at the minute. 
 

They are featured over on waywt but not very clearly!

[Alec Leamas]

Few shots of the 220XX-54.

Pardon the mud splashes had just got back from a dog walk on these!

These fit great, there's something about this fabric that I love too. It's nothing above and beyond what Warehouse usually roll out, but there's a character to it that just sits right. It's less rough and textured than the WH banner denim, and it's thicker than dead stock blue which I find to be a touch toooo thin.

I'll take some pics laid flat and alongside the worn in 47's for comparison at some point soon.

[horriblyjollyjinx]

On 11/7/2024 at 10:01 PM, PrettyBoyTony said:

I think I'm going to go with the DENIME Lot.220A OFFSET XX model but now I'm not too sure about sizing. Bears says it shrinks 6cm in waist and lenght but can see other sites are saying less.

My perfect waist is 41 to 42 cm measured flat.

Should I go for the 32 inch which is 85cm or 33inch which is 88cm?

Also inseam wise i like a 30 inch so assume i should go for that as looks like full shrinkage in lenght is just under 31 inches? 

These questions will probably never stop being asked. 

Waist: Will shrink to the marked size in circumference. Take a tape measure and wrap it around your waist and see how that fits. Compare with how other jeans fit. Should be slightly tight. DO NOT MEASURE FLAT.
Length: Inseam shrinks to exactly what the tag says.

This goes for all JP repro brands. 

[horriblyjollyjinx]

Im tempted to pick up a pair. What are the differences between the 66 models? I see there's 221 and possibly two different 224s. They have different backpockets, other than that?